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Israel's Terminal Illness (Jewish State On Its Deathbed Unless Olmert Is Gone Alert)
Worldnetdaily.com ^ | 08/18/06 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 08/18/2006 12:28:25 AM PDT by goldstategop

We've all known brave soldiers who fought courageously in multiple conflicts only to succumb to lingering and debilitating illnesses years later.

Likewise, history tells us of nations that never lost a battle in combat only to die because they lost their sense of purpose, their will to survive.

I think that's what is happening in Israel today. I think the Jewish state is terminally ill.

Israel may have won three major wars in its 60-year history, but it will be lucky to survive another decade of morally bankrupt leadership.

It's not just former Prime Minister Ariel Sharon who is comatose. It seems the whole current Israeli government is brain dead.

How else can one explain Israel's agreement to Lebanon cease-fire terms that amount to unconditional surrender?

I know few other commentators who have explained the development in these stark terms, but this is the reality of what Ehud Olmert's government has done. It represents, in my opinion, one of the biggest strategic blunders in the history of the country.

Let's review what Israel has done:

It launched a war on Iran-directed Hezbollah terrorists after they kidnapped two Israeli soldiers, killed eight others and rocketed northern Israel towns. From the beginning, Israel demanded the return of its troops and the disarming of Hezbollah terrorists.

What did Israel get in the cease-fire deal? No return of the kidnapped troops and Hezbollah terrorists remain under arms.

For the life of me, I don't understand why Israeli civilians are not massing in the streets of Jerusalem demanding the immediate resignation of Olmert and his Cabinet. The Israeli army is returning from Lebanon with its tail between its legs.

How can you ask soldiers to kill and die for a simple objective that is later abandoned without explanation or reason?

Does Olmert not understand what his surrender means? It means he has given aid and comfort to Israel's enemies. He has handed Hezbollah its biggest victory since former Prime Minister Ehud Barak unilaterally withdrew from Lebanon, handing the southern part of the country to Iran's proxy army and positioning it to claim it had defeated the Jewish state.

He has also proved to Israel's other terrorist enemies – those in Hamas and the Palestinian Authority – that rocket attacks, assassinations and kidnappings are winning tactics against the Jewish state. Prepare to see more of them under the terms of this "cease-fire."

He has demonstrated for the entire world that Israel has lost the kind of resolve it had in previous military campaigns. When the going gets tough, today's Jews evidently will just sue for peace.

Hezbollah has won. That's the unimaginable bottom line after this conflict. The terrorists have won – not in the battlefield, mind you. But they won before the war ever began because weak-kneed, cowardly, morally unfit leaders in Jerusalem would never permit Israel to win.

With Hezbollah's victory, Iran and Syria have been emboldened as well. This is bad news not just for Israel, but for the entire world.

If you think I overstate the case, ask yourself this fundamental question: Is Israel more secure after abandoning its conflict in Lebanon or less secure?

You know the answer. Everyone knows the answer.

Israel may have one of the greatest military machines in the world. It may have an intelligence apparatus that is the envy of superpowers. It may even have right on its side.

But Israel is being led by men unworthy of its history, unworthy of its sacrifices, unworthy of its hard-fought victories of the past and unworthy of God's sovereign promises to bless the Jewish state forever.

It's clear the only enemy that could ever destroy Israel is the kind of internal moral rot we are witnessing today in Jerusalem. Israel has just one shot at surviving its terminal illness – cutting out the cancer that is the Olmert government.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antiolmertwhiners; capitulation; deathbed; defeat; ehudolmert; israel; israelsurrender; israelwar2006; josephfarah; soreloserman; terminalcondition; worldnetdaily
Israel's condition is terminal - unless the Olmert government is removed from power. People who led Israel to the most devastating defeat its history are not equipped to ensure the country's continued survival. The pathetic turnout of Israelis at an anti-Olmert demonstration in Tel Aviv reveal few Israelis do get the extent of the danger the country is in. And by the time the rest of their countrymen do wake up, it may be too late. By then, if nothing is done, all that will remain of the late Jewish State is an Internet website.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo!)

1 posted on 08/18/2006 12:28:28 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop

Israel needs someone who is not afraid to nuke Damascus and Tehran if that becomes necessary


2 posted on 08/18/2006 12:30:48 AM PDT by GeronL (flogerloon.blogspot.com -------------> Rise of the Hate Party)
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To: GeronL
I just don't see Israel's elites having the conviction to take on the mullahs in Iran when their definition of victory is to allow Hezbollah to hide its katyushas and rockets under its gallabiyahs - Arab robes. I really don't. Iran could have nuclear weapons today and Israel's current leadership would never order a preemptive attack to take them out. A country incapable of defeat a terrorist army in Lebanon is not a country that is capable of addressing the gravest existential threat confronting it in its history - the challenge coming from Teheran. Not with the people at its head who managed this War Of Capitulation.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo!)

3 posted on 08/18/2006 12:35:38 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

The Jews of Israel don't seem to care. The obvious choice in the last election was Bibi. Instead they elect a lawyer to defend them.


4 posted on 08/18/2006 12:38:50 AM PDT by Bommer
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To: goldstategop

Saw Medved last night and he said he thinks Olmert will be gone in a few weeks. He said Netanyahu will be back.


5 posted on 08/18/2006 12:39:09 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: goldstategop; All

Oh, I'm pretty sure that the folk in Israel will demand Olmert's head on a platter. And Netanyahu will deliver, I'm sure.


6 posted on 08/18/2006 12:39:31 AM PDT by farlander (Strategery - sure beats liberalism!)
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To: GeronL

Go Neutron!


7 posted on 08/18/2006 12:43:36 AM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: goldstategop; All

This is the Beginning of the End for the Jewish State !





This last, ill-concieved and obviously pre-planned millitary action against Lebannon by Israeli military forces, is Zionist State's OPERATION BARBAROSA !

Like that ill-fated invasion of Russia 45 years ago, this could spell ultimate defeat for the Jewish State - -
they(Israel's Intelligence) obviously underestimated Hezballah's hold on Lebannon, the country, the society, its' state - -
underestimated Hezbollah's capabilities, like 13,000 Katusha rockets . . .

More Israeli citizens have been killed in the past 12 years of peace since the Oslo Peace Accords of 1994, than in the previous 20 yrs of wars and conflicts combined . .

The Zionist State will not be destroyed, not nuked - -
Israel will be bled to 'Death by a Thousand Cuts', none of which are fatal by themselves, but fatal long term ! !


8 posted on 08/18/2006 12:48:38 AM PDT by marc costanzo (Better an honest enemy, than a dishonest friend !)
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To: Westlander

Neutronize all those arab countries is fine with me after they try something big. They certainly seem to be clueless at where the limits are.


10 posted on 08/18/2006 12:51:43 AM PDT by GeronL (flogerloon.blogspot.com -------------> Rise of the Hate Party)
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To: beaversmom
He said Netanyahu will be back.

I think I bought a nice couch from him back in Chicago.

11 posted on 08/18/2006 12:53:39 AM PDT by beyond the sea (The truth exists even when ignored.)
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To: goldstategop; All
>>Likewise, history tells us of nations that never lost a battle in combat only to die because they lost their sense of purpose, their will to survive. <<

Do not forget that they also lost their sense of identity !

They allowed their countries to be flooded by foreign tribes until their sense of Nation Consciousness lived no more . .

After that, they fought their wars increasingly with the aid of foreign auxiliaries and conscripts(foreign immigrants that acquired citizenship thru service) - -
forces that were loyal primarily for pay, and a share of the loot(spoils of war) ~

When it came time to fight their fellow co-ethnics, they proved less than reliable ! !

(there are currently 27,000 immigrant non-citizen enlistees in the U.S. military)
12 posted on 08/18/2006 12:56:24 AM PDT by marc costanzo (Better an honest enemy, than a dishonest friend !)
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To: peyton randolph
>>It is coming to the absurd point where a Democrat President in '08 would be better for national security.

Why?

Because the Dem could triangulate by securing our borders, profile Muslims, and take out Tehran. The MSM and the majority of the public would support these actions. It would re-align politics (for the Dems) in a way that Karl Rove could only dream of.
<<

Whoa !

We have a closet DemoCrat here !

The Democrats will never act against illegal immigration, they need those stooges, the Latino Vote, to stay in power .

While the Mass Media, especially in Nuke York City are the acolytes of The 'Crats, does not mean a Crat President will get a blank check to through illegal aliens(minorities) out of this country !

Libs like Ted Kennedy want third worlders to take over America !
That has been The 'Crat plan for the past 41 years !
13 posted on 08/18/2006 1:01:04 AM PDT by marc costanzo (Better an honest enemy, than a dishonest friend !)
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To: Sabramerican; Slings and Arrows
It's not just former Prime Minister Ariel Sharon who is comatose. It seems the whole current Israeli government is brain dead. How else can one explain Israel's agreement to Lebanon cease-fire terms that amount to unconditional surrender?

Ping.

14 posted on 08/18/2006 1:10:08 AM PDT by Thinkin' Gal (As it was in the days of NO...)
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To: goldstategop; MNJohnnie
Well Johnnie, after you have read this and reports out of Iraq of a situation rapidly deteriorating, do you still want to continue shoveling flies to win this war against 1.4 billion Muslims?


15 posted on 08/18/2006 1:10:12 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("I like to legislate. I feel I've done a lot of good." Sen. Robert Byrd)
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To: marc costanzo
We have a closet DemoCrat here !

Hardly. I've been voting GOP for 20 years. I'll vote Libertarian if there is no GOP candidate on the ballot. I'd sit home rather than vote Dem.

The Democrats will never act against illegal immigration, they need those stooges, the Latino Vote, to stay in power .

The Howard Deans wouldn't. The Hillary Clintons would. Remember Slick Willie's triangulation on welfare reform? The calculated risk was that blacks wouldn't leave the Dem plantation. Same risk would be taken with respect to hispanics.

It isn't about ideology for someone like Hillary Clinton. It is all about attaining power. The preferred method would be as a socialist. But she'd run as a Bible-thumping moderate with a hawkish defense policy if it garners her 270 electoral votes. I suspect the same could be said about Bayh of Indiana, Mark Warner of Virginia, and Osama Bama Ding Dong of Illinois.

Think it isn't possible? We're rapidly descending to a "only Nixon could go to China" moment...permitting a Dem pseudo-hawk to do with foreign policy what the Republicans have abdicated from doing.  

16 posted on 08/18/2006 1:18:22 AM PDT by peyton randolph (No man knows the day nor the hour of The Coming of The Great White Handkerchief.)
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To: goldstategop

Israeli elections coming soon!
Don't freak out just yet....
Bibi will be back and the punch will return.


17 posted on 08/18/2006 1:36:12 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: goldstategop

"It's not just former Prime Minister Ariel Sharon who is comatose. It seems the whole current Israeli government is brain dead."

This was wrong. Arik's condition should not be used to make political points.


18 posted on 08/18/2006 1:43:27 AM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Don't hold your breath about Bibi.


19 posted on 08/18/2006 2:41:31 AM PDT by FreeReporting (A leftish Israeli)
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To: peyton randolph
It is coming to the absurd point where a Democrat President in '08 would be better for national security.
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The fact you could make this statement means that nothing you say should ever be taken seriously. Ever.
20 posted on 08/18/2006 2:57:05 AM PDT by Cheburashka (World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: Cheburashka
The fact you could make this statement means that nothing you say should ever be taken seriously. Ever.
You're entitled to your opinion. I won't lose any sleep over it.

 

21 posted on 08/18/2006 3:07:03 AM PDT by peyton randolph (No man knows the day nor the hour of The Coming of The Great White Handkerchief.)
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To: goldstategop

Expect a no confidence vote by the end of the year. Olmart is finished.


22 posted on 08/18/2006 3:08:34 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Prediction : Bibi and Likud back in.


23 posted on 08/18/2006 3:10:43 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation.)
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To: peyton randolph

>>It isn't about ideology for someone like Hillary Clinton. It is all about attaining power. The preferred method would be as a socialist. But she'd run as a Bible-thumping moderate with a hawkish defense policy if it garners her 270 electoral votes. I suspect the same could be said about Bayh of Indiana, Mark Warner of Virginia, and Osama Bama Ding Dong of Illinois.

Think it isn't possible? We're rapidly descending to a "only Nixon could go to China" moment...permitting a Dem pseudo-hawk to do with foreign policy what the Republicans have abdicated from doing.
<<

Ehhh, maybe !


24 posted on 08/18/2006 3:11:05 AM PDT by marc costanzo (Better an honest enemy, than a dishonest friend !)
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To: GeronL

getting pretty close to that point if you ask me.

Drop one on Damascus, Tehran, Medina and suddenly the Mideast becomes much more tame.


25 posted on 08/18/2006 3:29:03 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: beaversmom

Vote Bibi. I've been wondering what they're waiting for.


26 posted on 08/18/2006 3:29:44 AM PDT by Watery Tart (Netanyahu: Destroy the[ir] missile arsenal first, then you can have a cease fire.)
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To: goldstategop; nathanbedford
In 1982 the Israelis did EXACTLY what all the arm chair Pattons are screaming for now. If this is the brilliant war winning strategy all the Freeper Generals claim it is, why is Israel RIGHT back at the same place 25 years later?

Counter Insurgency is not Total War. Learn the difference. Israel is not fighting a Conventional Military campaign against a Conventional threat. The parameters of the two issues are complete different.
27 posted on 08/18/2006 4:25:42 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (History shows us that if you are not willing to fight, you better be prepared to die)
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To: beaversmom

he thinks Olmert will be gone in a few weeks

I wish I could believe that. The shameless weasel will find a way to hang on and brazen it out. Kind of what Clinton did after the Lewinsky scandal broke. Anyone with a sense of shame and honor would have resigned.


28 posted on 08/18/2006 4:37:33 AM PDT by rbg81 (1)
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To: MNJohnnie

Israel needs a buffer zone in Southern Lebanon--period. They are relying on an international force to provide one, but methinks that force will provide cover for Hezbollah more than anything else. Especially if you see it filled with troops from places like Malaysia and Bangladesh. So next time the Israelis need to take-care-of-business, they'll have to fight their way through Hezbollah and the UN.


29 posted on 08/18/2006 4:40:41 AM PDT by rbg81 (1)
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To: goldstategop
IIRC, Joe Farah is a Lebanese Christian.
30 posted on 08/18/2006 5:13:50 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
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To: SJackson; Alouette; Salem; F15Eagle; dennisw; Slings and Arrows; SunkenCiv; M. Espinola; Yehuda; ...
"...Israel is being led by men unworthy of its history, unworthy of its sacrifices, unworthy of its hard-fought victories of the past and unworthy of God's sovereign promises to bless the Jewish state forever. "

Ping!
31 posted on 08/18/2006 5:52:24 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Olmert - Israel's Laval; Peretz - Israel's Darlan; Peres - Israel's Petain)
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To: peyton randolph

Who is this non-existing democrat with this self-defeating agenda? He couldn't be electedi n any Primary of the Planet


32 posted on 08/18/2006 6:04:25 AM PDT by bornacatholic
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To: beaversmom; All

I am beginning to believe Bibi may return. However, I do believe that Moshe Ya'alon is high up on the list as well. Either way these 2 individuals have what it takes to lead with strength. Not really a hard act to follow (Olmerde).


33 posted on 08/18/2006 6:05:40 AM PDT by unionblue83 (Duty is ours; consequences are God's. -- Stonewall Jackson.)
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To: goldstategop
Israel's condition is terminal - unless the Olmert government is removed from power.

The "great man" fallacy again.

Israel in its present form is terminal not BECAUSE Olmert is PM, but because it is the People of Israel who put him in office.

Olmert is a nobody. What he signifies is that the People will not defend the land if it is necessary to do so with weapons other than words.

34 posted on 08/18/2006 6:07:57 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit - it's the only way to be sure.)
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To: peyton randolph
Remember Slick Willie's triangulation on welfare reform?

*T'Heck R U talking about. He vetoed it several times before republicans FORCED him to sisgn it as he was heading into an election.

Triangulation? Try reality

35 posted on 08/18/2006 6:08:28 AM PDT by bornacatholic
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To: bornacatholic

It's actually the same person as the mythological 12th Imam, and the unicorn and the centaur and the honest Clinton.......


36 posted on 08/18/2006 6:11:05 AM PDT by unionblue83 (Duty is ours; consequences are God's. -- Stonewall Jackson.)
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To: goldstategop

If Golda Meir was made to resign after 1973 (which was quite perilous for Israel but ended well), Olmert should be tarred, feathered and then made to resign after the fiasco so far...


37 posted on 08/18/2006 6:11:46 AM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: goldstategop

Israel's enemies will not ever stop until the state of Israel is destroyed. The only way Israel will stop its enemies is by unleashing nuclear war. Either way, it spells Armageddon. There is no solution to this issue.

From Egypt, to the Philistines, to Assyria/Babylon, to Rome's Caesars, to Hitler, to Islam, the desire to dominate and/or kill the Jews has been a constant goal of Satan down through the ages. It will not be resolved by human gov't nor warfare, though it is hindered, briefly, from time-to-time by these.


38 posted on 08/18/2006 7:07:43 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 4:15, John 11:25, John 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13)
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To: F15Eagle

"There is no solution to this issue. "

meant to say: "There is no HUMAN solution to this issue."


39 posted on 08/18/2006 7:09:43 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 4:15, John 11:25, John 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13)
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To: Biggirl
Expect a no confidence vote by the end of the year. Olmart is finished.

I don't know about that. I heard this from my friend in Haifa on August 14. She knows the war was necessary but is glad life is returning to "normal". Here's what she wrote.

"The son of a very well known peace activist, and also a will known author, David Goodman....Who only two days ago, begged to end the fighting and bring the soldiers home..His 19 years old son was killed by anti tank rocket fire. This happened not long before the cease fire.hours.I know it is hard on all those parents, but this was so sad,as his father was well respected by the Arab community...Tragic indeed and the fact that he was against all these wars.."

40 posted on 08/18/2006 8:05:50 AM PDT by AmericaUnite
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To: MNJohnnie
Now let's see, you posted with great authority and frequency your view that our war in Iraq is perfectly contrived to win the war against terrorism because we are drawing terrorists from all over the world to Iraq where we are cheerfully killing them. We have been merrily killing all the terrorists in the world in Iraq for three years now. This you say, is a good thing, a terrific strategy. I have countered that this strategy amounts to no more than shoveling flies.

Now let's see, when the Israelis start killing terrorists in Lebanon but quit doing it after only 1/ 30th of the time we Americans have devoted to killing terrorists in Iraq, you declaim that this is a brilliant strategy and, ever willing to enlighten those not as well acquainted with grand strategy as you are, you instruct us as follows:

Counter Insurgency is not Total War. Learn the difference. Israel is not fighting a Conventional Military campaign against a Conventional threat. The parameters of the two issues are complete different. (capital letters provided by the author, not by me).

I confess I do not know whether I am more awe-struck by your sangfroid or more dumbfounded by your mastery of the non sequitur.


41 posted on 08/18/2006 11:54:29 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("I like to legislate. I feel I've done a lot of good." Sen. Robert Byrd)
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