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To: sasafras
I rank him above Carter but thats not saying much.

So you are saying that Bill Clinton was a better President than George W. Bush?

12 posted on 08/18/2006 8:29:47 AM PDT by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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To: frogjerk
I rank him above Carter but thats not saying much.

This is idiotic. This person is obviously comparing Bush to Reagan, which is unfair. But this president is clearly more effective than his father and Clinton among recent presidents.

15 posted on 08/18/2006 8:36:14 AM PDT by presidio9 (“The term ‘civilians’ does not exist in Islamic religious law.”)
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To: frogjerk

If you are implying whether I think Clinton is a better president than Carter - thats like comparing bad to worse. Ultimately it is one mans opinion - take it or leave it - but Bush had a chance to lead on many issues and he had a congress that would of went along after 911 but instead he played his hand as a moderate and ended up alienating everyone. Bush trails in the polls because he is not a leader. After Clinton the GOP wanted to win so bad and take Gore out that we didnt care if the person elected was a moderate. Conservative principles are winning principles we just need the right candidate without too many skeletons and who has good public speaking skills (which Bush get an D+) to orate them to the public. Bush, ulike Reagan, doesnt use the bully pulpit to sway public opinion - his staff is the worst when it comes to using the media at hand (yes I know that most of them are leftests)to orchastrate why the public should be behind certain policies.

Look Im not saying that Bush is the worst president ever - but he will not a have a favorable note in history from either the right or the left. He has done little to make his mark and history books are never written about moderates. The left hates him and the right is not too happy with him either - it is a bed that he has made.


17 posted on 08/18/2006 9:08:19 AM PDT by sasafras (("Licentiousness destroyes order, and when chaos ensues, the yearning for order will destroy freedom)
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