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Irish company challenges scientists to test 'free energy' technology [Oh Yeah!]
PhysOrg.com ^ | 18 August 2006 | Staff

Posted on 08/18/2006 7:37:36 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

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To: PatrickHenry
Invest now!

Not even with Monopoly money!

201 posted on 08/19/2006 8:55:20 AM PDT by balrog666 (Ignorance is never better than knowledge. - Enrico Fermi)
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To: Wolfie; PatrickHenry
The same sort of thing led to Post-Its.

Wolfie, please. This is at least almost as big as Segway. And you are wrong to pooh-pooh this as a physical concept. I have noticed and documented the same effect with the old Kirby vacuum left to me by my sainted grandmother.

When I am finished vacuuming, the Kirby is stronger than ever, and I am totally out of energy. QED, Thomas.

202 posted on 08/19/2006 9:13:15 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Don't get excited. Our historical imperative is to turn back Islam. Again.)
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To: Kirkwood

http://www.tinaja.com/patnt01.asp


203 posted on 08/19/2006 9:22:14 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: bolobaby

You sound like one of these guys from out of space,THIMK before you post.


204 posted on 08/19/2006 10:05:09 AM PDT by jerryem (No, NO, It's all about money.)
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To: Lee'sGhost

This may be some small underfunded concern. Perhaps they don't have the means to do so. And perhaps they'd rather have someone confirm their theory before it's stolen by someone else.

Look, it's a good question. It would seem the answer is rather obvious. There may be a reason.

I don't think your premise is flawed.


205 posted on 08/19/2006 10:05:32 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Bring your press credentials to Qana, for the world's most convincing terrorist street theater.)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

Reading the posts here is like reading the "Letters to the Editor" in a newspaper 150 years ago,same mentality,( at least one thing has not changed, we are still a bunch of idiots) nothing is ever going to work, flying machines ha,ha,ha men in space ho,ho,ho,


206 posted on 08/19/2006 10:20:25 AM PDT by jerryem (No, NO, It's all about money.)
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To: Mark Felton
As to string theory, they were "seen", using micro-psi(a form of yoga)80 to 90 years ago by Ledbetter and Besant. They saw atoms, nuclei, quarks, sub-quarks(UPA they called it)by focussing matter waves. The UPA is an involuting/evoluting torus, 2 1/2 solenoid turns thru the core, 3 bright white lines, 7 rainbow colored lines; for your 10 curled up "dimensions" of superstring theory. It was an article in Infinite Energy Magazine, Vol 6, issue 36, 2001 : ESP of quarks. I'm sure they have a back issue you could buy. L & B even discovered isotopes(Ne22)before scientists did........As to acceleration : that's W

P). W

P is deceleration which you CAN feel/sense....as TIME.

207 posted on 08/19/2006 11:36:54 AM PDT by timer
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To: jerryem

"You sound like one of these guys from out of space,THIMK before you post."

Uh... because I said:

"Why do they need the technology to be validated? If it works, just start building batteries or generators using the technology and the market will validate it.

Instead, years pass looking for validation until the "science" falls into obscurity."

Oooooookay. Maybe you missed my point. Since I'm a nice guy, I'll reword it for you.

They claim a great invention. Fine. Build it, market it, and sell it. If it works it will sell - no need for validation from the scientific community. If it doesn't work, their farce is readily exposed. The fact that they are not selling their invention already is very suspicious indeed.


208 posted on 08/19/2006 11:55:00 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: bolobaby
you make it sound so easy, I wish I could borrow your glasses,If they have what they say then what they have done is 100% right,I would suppose that they are working on a limited budget so publicity is the best answer,I saw about 20 years ago 2 shoe-box size boxes,in the middle of a parking lot they were open, the inventor asked for a bottle of water, which was connected to a tube and a 12 volt battery was also connected,the result was from a pint of water 20 minutes of flame. The Company that I represented was interested in buying, but was informed that if they could exceed 50 million dollars make an offer. A lawyer involved in this transaction later said that a sale had been made to a Company who he was sure would do nothing with it.This is my friend the point that I wanted to draw to your attention,with so much publicity if it works its going to be very, very hard to make it disappear
209 posted on 08/19/2006 12:38:53 PM PDT by jerryem (No, NO, It's all about money.)
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To: PatrickHenry
Thanks, for the Ping...

Nicolai Tesla's dream comes true....
no cold fusion alert

210 posted on 08/19/2006 12:51:26 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just b/c your paranoid; Doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you. :)
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To: timer

ok


211 posted on 08/19/2006 12:51:59 PM PDT by Mark Felton ("Your faith should not be in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.")
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To: GSlob
Well, the proper application for the cold fusion would be to subject deuterium saturated palladium sponge [in deuterium atmosphere] to a hypersaturative compression, like from chemical explosion shockwave. One would get an H-warhead on the cheap.......

Welll, Yeah. :^)

FWIW, I like Tesla's Idea, Atmospheric Electrical utilization
....Like a ZOT, for nankind...its' a "somewhat better use" than punishing DU trolls

212 posted on 08/19/2006 1:03:52 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just b/c your paranoid; Doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you. :)
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To: Kirkwood; concerned about politics
"Light waves are energy. ... There must be some way to tap it without blowing ourselves up"

The problem is one of power (releasing energy fast enough to do practical work. The only way would be to collect and store the low-level bits of energy that occur in large quanities (like that of sunlight) and then releasing it fast enough to do practical work.

In a perfect world of science the ideal solution would be to design a system that could collect the low-level energy, say sunlight (the free but low power stuff) over a very large area (lets say thousands of square miles) collected over a long period of time (say 6-9 months) using millions of small lightweight battery-like devices.

The devices must be cheap and use only chemicals that are cheap and widely available (water, for instance), and built of very common materials that are also cheap and widely available (LOL dirt, or sand would be perfect!). After they have filled up with the energy they could be collected and sent to a processing facility for conversion and release of their energy.

The storage devices would be used only once, but they would incorporate the ability to use part of their collected energy to replicate dozens more empty devices to be used over the next cycle!!!

Heck, since we are dreaming anyway, lets make it so that we can eat them as well!! Why not?? And also build houses from them!

No scientist would even dare dream up such a wildly exotic technology because it would be just too incredible to think possible.

wow!!

Good thing, then, that God went ahead and designed it for us.

213 posted on 08/19/2006 1:45:38 PM PDT by Mark Felton ("Your faith should not be in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.")
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To: Mark Felton

I see that this "service" doesn't print the greater than/less than symbols which is too bad, that's the core of the equation.


214 posted on 08/19/2006 1:45:56 PM PDT by timer
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To: timer
yeah too bad.

oh, BTW, what was this all about??

also, from RESIDENCY MAGISTRATE'S COURT

"Annie Bensant said that Leadbeater defended himself by saying he was only trying to teach them the value of masturbation as a way of letting off steam, and of bathing the full body, naked, and not with a loin cloth on.

"For we find that although Mrs. Besant at first condemned the practice and said in effect that in this respect Mr.Leadbeater was insane, yet subsequently she supported the Leadbeater practice of carefully selecting boys who were satisfactory subjects for receiving instruction in the practice of masturbation."


215 posted on 08/19/2006 1:54:51 PM PDT by Mark Felton ("Your faith should not be in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.")
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To: Mojave

I'm making money off of my patents, so your point is not made.


216 posted on 08/19/2006 2:14:32 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: PatrickHenry
  1. build a working model
  2. Have it generate electricity
  3. Sell the power and make money
Until they can show that they are accomplishing the above, I'm not interested
217 posted on 08/19/2006 2:16:51 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the arrogance to think they will be the planners)
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To: Kirkwood

Talk is cheap.


218 posted on 08/19/2006 2:42:35 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: balrog666

Not even with somebody else's Monopoly money!


219 posted on 08/19/2006 2:49:51 PM PDT by steve-b ("Creation Science" is to the religous right what "Global Warming" is to the socialist left.)
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To: Mark Felton

Well, I wouldn't know how strange Ledbetter and Bezant were, the FACT remains that they discovered, via micro-psi, Neon 22, ie, isotopes, before mainstream science did. This is the mistake many make in looking at new ideas, beware of your own mental filter, of knee-jerk thinking you know it ALL. That's a sophmoric attitude as well described by an old black librarian(40 years as such)in re to young blacks : so quick to judge, so slow to learn......You see, new ideas are naturally resisted as the body resists viruses : ignored, immune-fought...until, IF the idea is good enough you've got EINSTEIN, and a new DNA for science. But most new ideas are right-brain-crazy, and if everyone ran after every new idea, socity would be CHAOS; thus the intellectual defense mechanism of rejecting ALL new ideas. This was clinton's problem : running after EVERY new idea = going nowhere. This is why you have an engineer-left-brain : to filter out what is wheat and what is chaff in the reports of Ledbetter and Bezant, to do otherwise is intellectual laziness.


220 posted on 08/19/2006 4:16:18 PM PDT by timer
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To: balrog666

Don't look now, but it appears one of the outpatients has been granted internet posting priviledges.....


221 posted on 08/19/2006 8:07:37 PM PDT by longshadow (FReeper #405, entering his ninth year of ignoring nitwits, nutcases, and recycled newbies)
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To: PatrickHenry
Motionless Electromagnetic Generator
222 posted on 08/20/2006 6:12:03 AM PDT by GregoryFul (cheap, immigrant labor built America)
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To: Wolfie

"McCarthy said Steorn had not set out to develop the technology, but "it actually fell out of another project we were working on".

This could be big. The same sort of thing led to Post-Its."

and krazy glue....Eastman Kodak was looking for an optically clear cement for bonding prisms. The cyanoacrylic cement they came up with was what we know as "super" or "krazy" glue....mind your fingers.


223 posted on 08/21/2006 5:23:14 AM PDT by petro45acp (SUPPORT/BE YOUR LOCAL SHEEPDOG! ("On Sheep, Wolves, and Sheepdogs" by Dave Grossman))
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To: Eagles Talon IV
...fused with the refracted binary containment field which is a by product of the magnetic mega phase re capacitor...

So in other words, they've found the pong in the ping?

224 posted on 08/21/2006 5:41:22 AM PDT by harrowup (I have a NASsCAR now; betteren my first, but not the bestest.)
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To: harrowup

Yes, and you are very insightful


225 posted on 08/21/2006 6:40:59 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: DoughtyOne

"I wouldn't be as quick to be dismissive as it seems physicist's are."

That's because they're physicists and have more experience with this sort of thing. This isn't even a new con, the "mysterious electrical black box that creates energy" has been done before.


226 posted on 08/21/2006 6:50:40 AM PDT by Sofa King (A wise man uses compromise as an alternative to defeat. A fool uses it as an alternative to victory.)
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