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New AIDS nightmare looms for gay men: study
AFP ^ | 8/18/06

Posted on 08/18/2006 8:46:36 AM PDT by presidio9

The gay community in the western world, mauled by the first wave of the AIDS pandemic, now faces a second storm, according to a forecast released at the International AIDS conference.

Since 2001, new cases of HIV in the homosexual population in the United States, Europe, Canada and Australasia have been rising by about 1.9 percent per year, the research by the University of Pittsburgh said.

Without action to correct this trend -- a return to safe sex or an unexpected medical breakthrough -- the infection rate is set to soar as the population ages.

In 2001, HIV affected on average roughly one in 12 gay 20-year-olds in these countries. By the time they are 30, researchers projected, the rate could rise to one in four. And by the time this group reaches 60, 58 percent could be infected.

Ensuing generations are also at threat, said the study, which was a review of papers in published journals.

"Ongoing incidence rates at this level will yield very high HIV prevalence rates within each generation of gay men," University of Pittsburgh researcher Ron Stall said.

Stall was especially alarmed by the explosion in HIV infections among African-American gays.

In this group, the rate of new infections today is four percent among those between 15 and 22 years of age -- but 15 percent among those aged 23-29.

Assuming an average rate of increase of four percent of new infections per year, three-quarters of individuals in the 23-29 group will be HIV-positive when they reach the age of 50.

"It's not a new story, it has been repeated time and again in the literature in the past... an almost unbelievable incidence rate," Stall said.

"African-American men who have sex with men suffer among the highest HIV prevalence rates of any risk group in the world."

The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention ( CDC) also warned of a daunting rise in the rate of gays contracting HIV in 35 US states.

Ronald Valdiserri, deputy director of the CDC's National Center for HIV, said the surge in infections among gay men could partly be explained by the growing use of methamphetamines, a drug that enhances sexual appetites and can drive users into risky sex.

He also pointed to what he called "AIDS burnout" -- complacency about the risks from AIDS in the era of antiretroviral drugs, which keep HIV to a manageable level but are not a cure and carry major side-effects.

"We have a new generation of gay men who didn't go through the early years, who didn't see neighbourhoods dying," said Valdiserri.

"HIV is still an incurable disease. In the United States five percent (of the budget for HIV) is spent on prevention," he added.

"America is more interested on treating this disease than preventing it. We can't treat our way out of this epidemic, even as a rich country."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 42yrlifeexpectancy; aids; aidsispreventable; aidskills; exitonly; hivaids; homosexualagenda; riskybehavior
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1 posted on 08/18/2006 8:46:37 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9

Oh let em have their fun. Surely there'll be a cure soon. {wink wink nudge nudge}


2 posted on 08/18/2006 8:48:25 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (More and more churches are nada scriptura.)
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To: presidio9
"America is more interested on treating this disease than preventing it. We can't treat our way out of this epidemic, even as a rich country."

America is more interested in rampant sexual fantasy than the safety and security of mongamy.
3 posted on 08/18/2006 8:49:38 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: DungeonMaster

Jeez, it's almost as if the wages of sin is death.


4 posted on 08/18/2006 8:50:15 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Mr. Lucky
Jeez, it's almost as if the wages of sin is death.

Why...you're right!

It's almost like...God is not mocked.

5 posted on 08/18/2006 8:51:19 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (More and more churches are nada scriptura.)
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To: DungeonMaster; Mr. Lucky

And the whole whine appears to be "we're rich, but not rich enough"...to buy our way out of wrong behavior?


6 posted on 08/18/2006 8:53:02 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: presidio9
and this trend is a bad thing ?

reminder: AIDS is a voluntary disease.

7 posted on 08/18/2006 8:55:51 AM PDT by TheOracleAtLilac
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To: presidio9
"America is more interested on treating this disease than preventing it. We can't treat our way out of this epidemic, even as a rich country."

NEWSFLASH: Stop engaging in homosexual activity.

8 posted on 08/18/2006 8:56:03 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: DungeonMaster
"It's almost like...God is not mocked."
He has the devil's own sense of humor, didn't you know?
9 posted on 08/18/2006 8:56:24 AM PDT by GSlob
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To: presidio9
New incidents of this disease could drop to Zero overnight. Literally.

That's not true for very many diseases, but it is for AIDS. Yet they refuse to take the step to make it happen. So many lives could be saved, but these selfish people don't care.

10 posted on 08/18/2006 8:57:08 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ( “I'm the Emperor, and I want dumplings!” (German: Ich bin der Kaiser und will Knödel.))
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To: presidio9
...the infection rate is set to soar as the population ages...

Given that the new cohort is meth shooters aging may not be as much of a problem as the numbers suggest.

11 posted on 08/18/2006 8:58:12 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: DungeonMaster

I might agree (cf. also the comments of others about the wages of sin), but only if you keep them out of my health insurance rating pool.

Covering HIV treatments for the sexually wanton makes the rest of us pay monetarily for techonologically delaying the wages of sin for them. While aiding the sick is a Christian duty, being forced to do so through increased insurance premiums is neither Christian (it deprives one of the opportunity to willingly give charitiy in imitation of our Father who 'makes the rain to fall on the just and the unjust', and deprives the recipient of contact with the Gospel when a Christian ministers to him) nor good social policy.


12 posted on 08/18/2006 8:58:25 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: presidio9
It never ceases to amaze me. We've had this disease on the social landscape since 1980. The forecasts, back then, of the great plague wiping out straights and gays alike never happened. It remains, as it did then, a problem for a select few: IV drug users and gay men.

Despite all the advances in drugs, 'the boys' continue to party, and only after they're positive do they realize, "Oh, hey, actions have consequences. Who'd a thunk!?"

I'm one of those hard hearted broads, I guess. I've lost too many friends to the disease (each contracted through irresponsibility and an almost arrogant disregard for cause and effect) to care any more.

You pays yer buck you takes your chances.

13 posted on 08/18/2006 8:58:32 AM PDT by RepoGirl ("Tom, I'm getting dead from you, but I'm not getting Un-dead..." -- Frasier Crane)
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To: The_Reader_David
Covering HIV treatments for the sexually wanton makes the rest of us pay monetarily for techonologically delaying the wages of sin for them.

Don't like it? Don't get insurance.
14 posted on 08/18/2006 9:01:20 AM PDT by Truth-The Anti Spin
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To: presidio9

This story's gonna leave a lot of readers with a bad taste in their mouth.


15 posted on 08/18/2006 9:02:45 AM PDT by zook ("We all knew someone in primary school who had a really powerful magnet")
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To: The_Reader_David

That reminds me of a similar idea. The bible says "if anyone will not work, then neither shall he eat". Now if we try to undo that whole rule with welfare, look at all the bad consequences we get. We have a population that won't work, has tons of free time on their hands, gets even more money for even more kids born as bastards. We end up destroying a whole group of people in their own sin by leading them to the temptation of not working.


16 posted on 08/18/2006 9:03:08 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (More and more churches are nada scriptura.)
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To: RepoGirl

Homosexuals are hardly "gay"

If we don't quit allowing the progressives to redfine our language to their own perverted definitions our children will never know what the meaning the word "IS" is.


17 posted on 08/18/2006 9:03:14 AM PDT by TimesDomain (When a judge declares himself "MASTER", you become his "SLAVE")
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To: The_Reader_David
Agreed. I'm sick of paying higher costs in insurance as well as taxes, just so it can be given to someone who didn't earn it.

Carolyn

18 posted on 08/18/2006 9:03:48 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: DungeonMaster

But it's not a "gay" disease, after all...


19 posted on 08/18/2006 9:03:54 AM PDT by Antoninus (Public schools are the madrassas of the American Left. --Ann Coulter, Godless)
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To: presidio9

Come on everybody, we've got quilting to do.


20 posted on 08/18/2006 9:03:59 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: presidio9
Romans 1:27

In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

Hey, I'm not the one who said it.

21 posted on 08/18/2006 9:04:29 AM PDT by The Blitherer (You were given the choice between war & dishonor. You chose dishonor & you will have war. -Churchill)
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To: TheOracleAtLilac

We are always reminded that lung cancer from smoking is a totally avoidable - preventable disease. Just don't smoke. Well, how about a little cooperation from the gay community before they bring the bill to my doorstep for a cure? No one subsidizes my lifestyle, and I don't do anything to need it either! I didn't go to the party, why do I have to pay for the party?


22 posted on 08/18/2006 9:06:44 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: DungeonMaster

The rise in the incident rate is an occurance that would be expected in any infectious epidemic, when those most likely infected are falsely led to believe that (1)infection is not really so likely and (2)infection may not lead to disease and (3)disease may not lead to death; which are all attitudes that have found more believers with the younger generations of sexually active gay men. Better medical treatments have led to greater survivability without cures and led to a false sense of health security in risky behavior.

In a sad but true and perverse sort of way, there would be fewer new infections if more infections were not survivable by treatment and led more expeditiously to a fatal illness.

If the inevitablity of a fatality is more immediate and more apparent, and not so easily deferred, that reality has a desireable affect on people's behaviors, particularly when their own choices can prevent the adverse consequences.


23 posted on 08/18/2006 9:08:07 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: presidio9

Bummer. There is a 100% foolproof way to not get AIDS. Quit buggering each other.


24 posted on 08/18/2006 9:08:45 AM PDT by pissant
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To: Truth-The Anti Spin

No choice: my employer takes money out of my pay (and being self-employed as a pure mathematician is a non-starter). It's foolish to refuse the marginally free health care services that result, but I'd rather not have folks with an almost studied disregard for their own health in my rating pool.


25 posted on 08/18/2006 9:10:48 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: presidio9

Generations of gay men are at risk?


26 posted on 08/18/2006 9:10:56 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: DungeonMaster

What a concept: you reap what you sow.


27 posted on 08/18/2006 9:12:28 AM PDT by madison10
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To: presidio9
Ronald Valdiserri, deputy director of the CDC's National Center for HIV, said the surge in infections among gay men could partly be explained by the growing use of methamphetamines, a drug that enhances sexual appetites and can drive users into risky sex.

It's just driving them into it. As if they have no control over the actions. It's the pill's fault. And the pill just jumps into their mouths.

28 posted on 08/18/2006 9:12:37 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (That's taxes, not Texas. I have no beef with TX. NJ has the highest property taxes in the nation.)
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To: The_Reader_David

Who do pure mathematicians work for?

Fallen mathematicians?


29 posted on 08/18/2006 9:13:38 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Truth-The Anti Spin; The_Reader_David

Who do yoy think picks up the tab for those sodomists whose medical bills are submitted to public welfare agencies?


30 posted on 08/18/2006 9:13:40 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: All

What happened to "living with aids"?

Does anyone know the current lifespan of a person who tests positive? Is it still 8 years?


31 posted on 08/18/2006 9:15:09 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: RepoGirl
I guess I'm hard hearted too. Folks who test positive to HIV/AIDS or Hep C need to be quarantined in a fashion they won't be able to spread their disease to the innocent until they are cured or made noninfectious.

I'm suffering from a 35 year infection of HCV from a blood transfusion. 33 years of the time, I didn't know I had the virus!

I wasn't a drug abuser or butt buddy so my family doctor never checked me for those "conditions." Now, I'm close to end stage liver disease and have had to endure interferon therapy, twice to kill the HCV, but the damage is done.

I have nothing but contempt for folks who mollycoddle this issue. You don't really want to know what I think about the really weird phenomenon of "Bug Chasers", the FREAKS that get turned on trying to get infected.
32 posted on 08/18/2006 9:15:14 AM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: presidio9
Sadly, lessons are sometimes learned only the hard way (no pun intended)....

If you chose to take your chances, you chose to suffer the consequences of the risk you take.

Only in the mind of Liberals are all the faggots considered "victims", where their lack of responsibility is supposed to be the burden on others to fund help for them.

Same is true in ALL cases of irresponsible behior from criminal elements: the TAXPAYER has to foot the bill for their idiocy.

33 posted on 08/18/2006 9:15:38 AM PDT by traditional1
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To: Mr. Lucky

"Jeez, it's almost as if the wages of sin is death."

ding ding ding


34 posted on 08/18/2006 9:24:15 AM PDT by stompk
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To: Truth-The Anti Spin; The_Reader_David

Why shouldn't insurance companies factor risk factor for AIDS into the premium? They do for everything else.


35 posted on 08/18/2006 9:25:23 AM PDT by SampleMan
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To: presidio9
The "cure" for AIDS is to do nothing.

People make a conscious decision to put themselves in a position (pun very much intended :) where they may become infected. Thus, AIDS is a voluntary disease.

If left to its own devices, it will eventually die out.

Some may try and shoot holes in this idea by bringing up smoking and saying that means cancer is also a voluntary disease. Only partially true. There are many forms of cancer that are NOT caused by smoking. The same cannot be said for AIDS.

36 posted on 08/18/2006 9:27:06 AM PDT by upchuck (WHO decided immigration laws should not be enforced? That is NOT a rhetorical question.)
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To: presidio9
Why don't these amoral misfits just shoot themselves in the head.It would save those of us who subsidize the price of their treatment many,many billions of dollars...money that could be spent "for the children".
37 posted on 08/18/2006 9:27:06 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: SampleMan
Why shouldn't insurance companies factor risk factor for AIDS into the premium? They do for everything else.

Because 'gay and/or promiscuous' don't show up on a blood test.
38 posted on 08/18/2006 9:27:20 AM PDT by Truth-The Anti Spin
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To: Mr. Lucky
Jeez, it's almost as if the wages of sin is death.

Who would have thought that could ever happen?

39 posted on 08/18/2006 9:27:45 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Islam is a subsingularity memetic perversion : (http://www.orionsarm.com/topics/perversities.html))
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To: presidio9
I remember a pastors sermon in which he said he could prophesy. He said the essence of old testament prophecy was that "if you continue doing what you are doing, something bad is going to happen to you". In that light, he said we should all be doing more prophesying today.

Well, here goes........If the homersexuals continue to do what they are doing, something bad is going to happen to them.
40 posted on 08/18/2006 9:29:05 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: Truth-The Anti Spin

Neither does motorcycle racing or skydiving but the results of a fatal mistake show up just fine.


41 posted on 08/18/2006 9:33:54 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: DungeonMaster

Perhaps Darwin will be proven at least partially right on this one.


42 posted on 08/18/2006 9:37:27 AM PDT by newcthem (Brought to you by the INFIDEL PARTY)
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To: presidio9
The US has been teaching AIDS prevention.
Starting in 5th or 6th grade here on LI. I'm sure the marijuana libertarians here know the government should stay out of private behavior.
Getting high doesn't lower inhibitions (and education) does it?
Drugs which are fat soluble and therefore stay in the body a month don't affect risky behavior. Do they?(sarcasm)
43 posted on 08/18/2006 9:38:01 AM PDT by AmericaUnite
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To: presidio9

But, but, but!! Don't we know that everyone is equally susceptible to this disorder? (Just a tinge of sarcasm)

Is there any reason to doubt, based on experience, that actions have consequences?


44 posted on 08/18/2006 9:39:10 AM PDT by Elsiejay (.)
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To: SMARTY

If we can practically outlaw smoking to prevent lung cancer, how about the "gay" lifestyle.


45 posted on 08/18/2006 9:39:51 AM PDT by newcthem (Brought to you by the INFIDEL PARTY)
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To: newcthem

It doesn't need to be against the law. But, if you opt for a risky lifestyle, pay your own way why don't you???


46 posted on 08/18/2006 9:42:42 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: All

if we look at it scientifically, what are the common elements of the high risk behaviors?

answer: a compulsion for some form of immediate gratification behavior. (note did not say sex because this can include drug addicts)

So then the question becomes what is the difference between those who a compulsed for destructive gratification behaviors and those who achieve gratification in non-destructive behaviors?


47 posted on 08/18/2006 9:44:13 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: TheOracleAtLilac
reminder: AIDS is a voluntary disease.

So are some cancers and obesity, just to name a two...

48 posted on 08/18/2006 9:46:58 AM PDT by Snardius
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To: presidio9
In the United States five percent (of the budget for HIV) is spent on prevention

And millions on drugs to make anal intercourse safer.

Let's save some money...here's the cure ---DON'T STICK YOUR D*** IN YOUR BEST FRIEND'S A**!!

49 posted on 08/18/2006 9:49:30 AM PDT by Snardius
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To: presidio9

You mean people who are addicted to self-destructive behavior have a good chance of dying from it? I'm shocked, shocked!


50 posted on 08/18/2006 9:49:46 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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