Bush defends surveillance program

AP on Yahoo ^ | 8/18/06 | Deb Reichman - ap

[GingisK]

you've been pwned

Please explain.

[LanaTurnerOverdrive]

FISA is a rubber stamp. Also, you can start your surveillance immediately and wait up to three days to even apply for a FISA warrant. I have yet to hear a single, solitary reason why this administration felt the need to circumvent the FISA law. Can anybody give me one?

[NormsRevenge]

FISA is not a rubber stamp, they have refused some request, albeit not many from what I have heard.

[GingisK]

...could be within our lifetimes...

I am more concerned that the left-vs-right, Democrat-vs-Republican, us-vs-them mentality of American politics will destroy this Nation long before any outside influence. I am concerned that "political correctness" and general government stupidity will render this Nation into serious degradation.

I am concerned that our way of life will be fractured into multiculturalism by unmonitored invasion across the southern border. I am concerned that outsourcing for selfish greed will collapse this country into third world status.

In short, terrorism is one of the least most important problems facing America. I do fear that the America I grew up in will not last much longer.

[I see my hands]

"I have yet to hear a single, solitary reason why this administration felt the need to circumvent the FISA law. Can anybody give me one?"

The court cannot be trusted. Leaks and worse.

[ohioWfan]

Actually, I only have seen clips, but I saw very positive body language, strong words, and a 'I'm not backing down' attitude all around.

He was focused and unwavering in the clips I saw.

Perhaps you were watching something different? Camp David??

[LanaTurnerOverdrive]

FISA is not a rubber stamp, they have refused some request, albeit not many from what I have heard.

The numbers I have heard are (roughly) 20,000 applications approved, 5 denied, three of which were approved on appeal. I'll try to find a link for you. I'm quite sure that if the administration could show FISA that "we just want to listen to terrorists phonecalls" it would not be a problem.

[ohioWfan]

I don't think the President is one bit passive (can't say the same for Congressional Republicans).

He's on top of this war, and it showed in this presser today, IMO.

[LanaTurnerOverdrive]

The court cannot be trusted. Leaks and worse.

Really? FISA Court Justices leaking national security information? Please provide some evidence of your claim.

[sinkspur]

Yada, yada, yada. One-note Charlies are going to be the death of this place.

[sinkspur]

He should have ripped that so called judge a new one.

He did. You just can't read big words.

[seekthetruth]

"Judge Anna Diggs Taylor is an idiot and when Al Qaida drops the big one ole anna is gonna be sorry, all the deaths will be on her stoopid head........geez, this really fires me up, how stoopid is she??? Did the English just foil a plot using wire taps?????? Hellllllllllllo.........."

Not only is Judge Taylor a stupid liberal judge, you should see her picture!

[sinkspur]

Perhaps he plans to continue to operate outside of Constitutional authority.

These wiretaps are within Bush's constitutional authority. Just wait and see how quickly this ruling is overturned.

[NormsRevenge]

You seem to have concerns that he would use this power for other purposes.

Do you take issue with folks who converse with known terrorists that utilize known phone numbers that may have been culled form laptops and other sources as part of raids the last few months overseas?

[GingisK]

Just wait and see how quickly this ruling is overturned.

I bet you missed the part where I missed the part that it wasn't the Supreme Court. I'd be really pissed if Bush snubbed his nose at the Supremes.

I wish we'd just declare war on Islam, then treat them all like enemies. Those that don't want to be legitimate targets could convert to something peaceful.

[sinkspur]

It would make sense to declare war on Islam ...

No, it would not. It would be foolish and short-sighted, done only to appease the testosteroned-up yahoos who observe the WOT from their Barcaloungers.

[My2Cents]

Is the country at war or not?

Yes. With itself.

[My2Cents]

Good grief...Does every thread on FR have to turn into a rant about "open borders"? For the love of God, take it somewhere else.

[sinkspur]

I have yet to hear a single, solitary reason why this administration felt the need to circumvent the FISA law. Can anybody give me one?

Warrants are not needed to gather information to stop terrorist attacks. Warrants are only needed to gather information pursuant to filing a criminal action.

Read the 4th amendment and its interpretation.

[sinkspur]

In short, terrorism is one of the least most important problems facing America.

A truly brain-dead statement.