Posted on 08/18/2006 2:44:39 PM PDT by madprof98
LONDON, August 15, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) – This week, a popular BBC radio announcer told the public that she had entered into a “suicide pact” with friends should she be incapacitated by illness.
Jenni Murray, the presenter of BBC Radio 4's Woman's Hour, a feminist and euthanasia advocate, said that she does not want to be “trapped” into caring for her mother who is ill with Parkinson’s disease.
Murray, a member of the Order of the British Empire and a patron of the Family Planning Association, is airing her views tonight on a BBC television program called “Don’t Get Me Started.” Publicity material for the show says that Murray “plans to end her own life when she becomes a burden to those around her.” She discusses methods, including smothering with a pillow or injecting with drugs, with two friends,
The network said: "Jenni is angry that, having fought so hard to become liberated and independent, women are now being trapped into caring for dependent parents."
Murray complains that the law against assisted suicide is supported by a “religious minority” who hold to an outdated moral view that human life is inherently valuable and that children have a legitimate obligation to care for elderly parents.
The program highlights the growth, especially in Britain, of the idea of an “obligation to die.” Most leading thinkers in the bioethics field endorse euthanasia and assisted suicide and often argue that elderly and ill patients have the obligation to end their lives to relieve pressure on families and the health care system.
In 2004, Baroness Mary Warnock, Britain’s leader in bioethics, said unequivocally that the ill and elderly had an obligation to die as soon as possible so as not to burden relatives and the medical system. Baroness Warnock, called Britain's “Philosopher Queen”, said in an interview, “In other contexts sacrificing oneself for one's family would be considered good. I don't see what is so horrible about the motive of not wanting to be an increasing nuisance.”
She said, “I am not ashamed to say some lives are more worth living than others.”
UK's "Philosopher Queen," Warnock Says Elderly and Ill have Obligation to Suicide http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2004/dec/04121406.html
This is what used to be called a Nazi.
If she wants to hurry up and depart this world I am sure she won't be missed.
Am I missing the place where the MOTHER says she doesn't want to live?
All I see is the spoiled child saying she doesn't want to be burdened with caring for her mother.
Instead of pulling the plug on momma, she could just off herself to end all of her obligations to anyone.
This shouldn't surprise anyone much. This is only the next logical step in the liberal culture of death. It's a well-worn path, walked by many selfish-to-the-core people over the years.
What a selfish, ungrateful wench.
"The network said: "Jenni is angry that, having fought so hard to become liberated and independent, women are now being trapped into caring for dependent parents."
The feminazis know how to get rid of unborn children they don't want. Now they have to figure out how to get rid of burdensome parents.
These people are a true horror.
These liberal wing-nuts can be bought by the pallette-load nowadays. Total selfish insanity, so typical of the left. It is all about SELF.
Funny how leftists parrot the Nazis. Hitler started the first antismoking campaign.
That's not true and you know it. Specific threads, posters?
This bucaiola is an OBE? The Queen and the honors list people must have been hard up for candidates THAT year.
There was a time when caring for your dependent parents was regarded as the morally correct thing for a decent person to do. It was also seen as an honorable and loving act.
I guess I should not be surprised that the folks who brought us abortion for personal convenience now advocate euthanasia for personal convenience.
I suspect that without God as the central figure in their lives, people like Jenni make themselves the central figure in their lives.
How sad.
"Jenni Murray, the presenter of BBC Radio 4's Woman's Hour, a feminist and euthanasia advocate, said that she does not want to be “trapped” into caring for her mother who is ill with Parkinson’s disease."
Bet good ol' Jenni's mom wishes she had opted for an abortion so good ol' Jenni wouldn't have to endure being "trapped into caring for her mother who is ill with Parkinson's disease." Ya know, if there is a hell, I bet it has spot just a little bit hotter for folks like good ol' Jenni.
You are too kind. The proper point on that graph is "D" - Despicable - which is BELOW the catastrophe line. Well below.
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Jenni's interests include riding horses, the theatre, needlepoint and knitting.
She is patron of the Family Planning Association and vice president of the Parkinson Disease Society.
WTF?!
These people are toddlers in adult bodies.
They are childish to their very core.
You are so right. I would be ashamed not to care for my parent(my father is dead), or my in-laws. It is my duty. These people are so selfish. Just Damn!
I'm not going to name-call. I will just point out that threads about moral issues and/or social conservatism of any kind draw a group of posters who preach the "I'm the master of my fate, the captain of my soul" line. They use this to justify the sort of absolute personal autonomy (and consequent freedom from both social convention and moral obligation) that our leftist friends are celebrating so vocally these days. If I called these people "libertarian," I would be raising their drunken rantings to the status of a philosophy.
Hopefully her mother felt "trapped" after having this ingrate as a child.
That's not "Nazi" as one poster puts it. That would put a 1932 beginning of such selfish, self-centered behavior. That didn't start last century. That evil is as old as humanity.
It is not confined to age, gender, religion or anything else. It's confined to a mean, cold, selfish heart of a human being, made in our Creator's image, with free will.
In this case, she CHOSE evil.
A Dr. Josef Mengele fan no doubt.
Wonder if Jenni would take care of her "partner" if he came down with something unfortunate and debilitating. Or would he have to expect the old pillow over the face or the lethal dose slipped into his tea?
What a disgusting person.
...pork.
Then why is she waiting until she becomes "incapacitated" before doing it, why not do it now and save her poor mother from having to hear another peep out of her ungrateful brat of a daughter?!
yep.
"She lives partly in London in a basement flat and in Cheshire in a Peak District farmhouse - wuthering heights and wuthering depths. She has a partner, David, of twenty six years standing and two sons."
'Wonder if Jenni would take care of her "partner" if he came down with something unfortunate and debilitating. Or would he have to expect the old pillow over the face or the lethal dose slipped into his tea?'
Well, let's just say that her answer to the old Beatle song question: "Will you still need me, will you still feed me, when I'm 64?" is not just "No," it's "Hell No!!!"
http://www.mp3lyrics.org/b/beatles/when-im-64/
Oh, I've seen that sort of thing. I won't dispute that. However, I haven't seen anyone here refer to caring for an (ill) loved one as being "trapped." That's the line that killed me. It's lower than low.
That was exactly what the Terri Schiavo case was about, and why so many wanted her to die before her time.
Actually it is true.
Enjoy, if you have a few hours to read through it:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1373116/posts
Well, this example is especially sordid. I suppose that's why it hits home. Something similar happens whenever the subject of family or familial obligations comes up these days. People will rant and rave about what a "burden" (the usual word) marital obligations and children are: HOW DARE THEY TRY TO TIE ME DOWN! But they tend to get queasy if you propose butchering kids and eating them. There are limits, in other words, but they are limits to which our sensibilities soon grow inured unless they are restrained by the kind of moral principles most people used to profess.
You are a burden to me.
rabidralph"
You'd also be offending real libertarians like myself who understand and adhere to the original philosophy known by that name before it was hijacked by anarchists.
One of the horrible things about Terri's case was that her family wanted to take over her guardianship and care, but dear Mikey and the court system wouldn't let them. So her Mom, Dad and brother had to stand by while the state dehydrated her to death over a two week period. It makes me furious every time I think about it.
Well said, my friend.
What she means is: Some lives are more worth taking than others.
That is simply outrageous. I recently lost my mother after a long terminal illness, and while I hated to see her suffer, and it was a pain at times, I had no regrets about helping take care of her, not even when I was actually doing it. I wasn't an obligation or a duty, it was because I cared about her and wanted to help however I could.
Hmm, Nazi (euthanasia) redux. Evil, indeed.
The logic is: if a person is a dependent, the 'caregiver' can decide whether the dependent deserves to live or not. How about a baby or a todler? Many times, they're more than simply nuisance. And if for sure they're not going to look after the parents whatsoever, the parents can terminate them anytime they want.
I wonder if she's for or against death penalty.
She is angry at having to take care of her mother? Lucky her MOM didn't feel that way. What a worthless piece of dog poop. I might vote that her life is less worth living than some....
Agreed, its how she's looks at it from her self centered universe - does she think everyone who cares for those who cannot care for themselves - be they babies or elderly- are all trapped?
And doesn't she live in a socialist paradise? Aren't there places to dump dear old mom and let the state care for her?
What does her mother say to all this?
Talk about inflicting your views on other people.
Sad, really. The only real growing I've ever done, the most fufilled I've ever been, the times I've felt the most meaning in my life, were those times that I cared for someone who was totally dependent on me.
A real burden would be not having someone to care for and love.
She's mentioned as a popular BBC radio announcer. Surely she makes reasonably good money. Unlike many, she probably has the wherewithal to pay for care (at home or otherwise) for her mother. I can't understand her self-centered attitude. It's mean and heartless.
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