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Higher suicide rate for older white males (BS alert)
United Press International ^ | August 18, 2006 | not given

Posted on 08/18/2006 4:46:15 PM PDT by redpoll

High suicide rate for older white males WASHINGTON, Aug. 18 (UPI) -- Older white males have the highest suicide rate in the United States, said the Population Reference Bureau in Washington.

Suicide is the 11th leading cause of death in the United States with 11 suicide deaths per 100,000 Americans.

For white males over the age of 65, the rate is almost triple that figure.

White males are more than eight times as likely to kill themselves as women of the same age and the risk increases as they get older, the Chicago Sun-Times reports.

Suicide experts are unable to pinpoint an exact cause for the higher rate but some believe white males lack the resilience and coping mechanisms that women and other ethnic groups have.

They also point to the fact that males are socialized to be in control and are less apt to seek help for depression which leads to suicide.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: males; mentalhealth; suicide; whitemales
I live in Bush Alaska, where the suicide rate among Native people is extraordinarily high. The suicide rate for Native people is twice the rate quoted for older white males in this article. It is a sad thing to experience among the people you know and love, which is why this article nearly makes me scream "you hypocritcal morons." (I guess I did just scream it.)

My reason for screaming? The "experts" here tell us that the reason for the high rate of suicide among Native people is oppression by outsiders, cultural disintegration, and high rates of alcohol and drug abuse. Suddenly oppression and cultural disintegration are no longer the reasons for suicide - because the reasons given for Native suicide rates obliquely blame white males. Now suicide is due to lack of "resilience and coping mechanisms" among people "socialized to be in control."

This article is fabulous example of the lack of reasoning power among the media and elites in general. Imagine someone telling Native people that the suicide epidemic here is due to "lack of resilence and coping." They'd be pilloried for racism and lack of compassion. I guess it's all right to express that kind of racism as long as the person killing himself has the right skin color and gender.

1 posted on 08/18/2006 4:46:16 PM PDT by redpoll
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To: redpoll

Excellent observation by redpoll.


2 posted on 08/18/2006 4:50:29 PM PDT by docbnj
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To: docbnj
Right on with your analysis. The article is nothing more then a poorly researched essay.


3 posted on 08/18/2006 4:52:27 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: redpoll
Couldn't be because we've spent our lifetimes bending over backwards providing for every minority under the sun; providing the umbrella of privileges under which they thanklessly bask? And after all of that being told that everything wrong in the world is our fault?
4 posted on 08/18/2006 4:54:35 PM PDT by samm1148
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To: redpoll

I think your point is accurate, but the numbers might not be.


"A 2000 report by the Indian Health Service, an agency within the Department of Health and Human Services, showed that among American Indian youth, 33.9 per 100,000 commit suicide each year, which is 2.5 times the national rate for all youth.



Stacey Freedenthal: "We wanted a more accurate representation of what is found in the American Indian population."


"Suicide is a profound problem for American Indians," said Stacey Freedenthal, M.S.W., L.C.S.W., who is one of the researchers on the study and presented its findings at the annual conference of the American Association of Suicidology in Santa Fe in April.

She explained that within the general population, elderly men commit suicide at the highest rate, but within the American Indian population, adolescent boys have the highest rate of suicide. This translates into "many lost years and generations," she said."


5 posted on 08/18/2006 5:02:22 PM PDT by ansel12 (Life is exquisite... of great beauty, keenly felt.)
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To: samm1148
And after all of that being told that everything wrong in the world is our fault?

The rates will increase dramatically when todays young inferior males educated in government schools reach 65.

Thank you NEA and Feminazis.

6 posted on 08/18/2006 5:04:16 PM PDT by TYVets (God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
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I'm over 30, and have never met a native american, eskimo or otherwise, but I had a white male neighbor near his 60s who killed himself...


7 posted on 08/18/2006 5:06:40 PM PDT by KneelBeforeZod (I have five dollars for each of you)
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To: redpoll
This article is fabulous example of the lack of reasoning power among the media and elites in general.

Not a lack, a surfeit.

"The madman is not the man who has lost his reason. The madman is the man who has lost everything except his reason." - G. K. Chesterton

8 posted on 08/18/2006 5:07:26 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: redpoll

When is Jimmah Cahtah gonna off hisssef?


9 posted on 08/18/2006 5:09:07 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: redpoll

My first thought would be that older white males may be more likely to have health problems (unless they controlled for that in the study).
susie


10 posted on 08/18/2006 5:11:59 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: redpoll
Suicide experts are unable to pinpoint an exact cause for the higher rate but some believe white males lack the resilience and coping mechanisms that women and other ethnic groups have.

Or it could be that they get tired of the ENDLESS whining they have to put up with from "women and other ethnic groups" and get REALLY tired of being blamed for EVERYTHING that goes wrong in the world.

11 posted on 08/18/2006 5:28:51 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Want to "feel" secure? Elect DemocRATS and then stick your head in the sand.- The DNC)
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To: redpoll

There are many reasons for suicide. This article points out one of them.


12 posted on 08/18/2006 5:36:42 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: redpoll
Image hosted by Photobucket.com it used to be called "Going out like a man..." and I will decide when my time comes.

watched my Mother die of cancer while being kept alive by doctors milking her insurance. made up my mind then and there... I"LL never die like that.

13 posted on 08/18/2006 5:46:18 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist )
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To: redpoll

As an older white male, I can tell you that I personally am not allowed to let up and slack off. I will not, and I refuse to. But I can see that if I were faced with dwindling capabilities, I might become depressed.


14 posted on 08/18/2006 5:51:27 PM PDT by MarineBrat (Muslims - The "flesh eating bacteria" version of humans.)
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To: redpoll

I always thought the biggest reason was intimate knowledge of Bill and Hillary's finances..scandals...affairs..etc.etc.etc..


15 posted on 08/18/2006 5:57:48 PM PDT by mo
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To: redpoll
One of the uncomfortable truths I've learned as I've gotten older is how often suicide occurs. I've known too many people that have taken their own lives. Alcoholism and drugs are the main factors for those I've known, and people with incurable cancer is a close second.

Its one of the things my parents never warned me about, and its been the most disappointing aspect of growing older.
16 posted on 08/18/2006 6:00:07 PM PDT by Tiny
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To: redpoll
Older white males have the highest suicide rate in the United States

...women and minorities hardest hit...< / WashPost>

17 posted on 08/18/2006 6:00:14 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (I wish a political party would come along that thinks like I do.)
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To: redpoll
White males are more than eight times as likely to kill themselves as women of the same age and the risk increases as they get older, the Chicago Sun-Times reports.

So is it eight times more than white women or women of all colors?

Suicide experts are unable to pinpoint an exact cause for the higher rate but some believe white males lack the resilience and coping mechanisms that women and other ethnic groups have.

Oh that standard canard "some believe" crappola - mental health experts, politicians, UPI reporters? As to the "resilience and coping mechanisms that women and other ethnic groups have" is simply asserted with the proof in the pudding being again the elusive, anonymous "some believe" aforementioned.

They also point to the fact that males are socialized to be in control and are less apt to seek help for depression which leads to suicide.

This last line is the actual rationale for this pitiful, sophomoric article. Who is "they"? The "some believe" or members of the "Population Reference Bureau in Washington"? This article takes some asserted facts and then assigns motives for older white male suicide without a lick of empirical proof. Are they hiring high scholl freshman over at UPI?!

STFU UPI!

18 posted on 08/18/2006 6:24:44 PM PDT by torchthemummy (Abortion: One Dead, One Wounded)
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To: redpoll
This cr_p has been going on for a long time. About 20 years ago I wrote a letter to the LA Times complaining about a highly offensive piece on white male suicide that was extremely similar to this one. Needless to say, they did not print my letter.

Liberals cannot acknowledge the existence of a humanity shared among the sexes, races and ages. It would contradict their oppressor-victim worldview. Since the left views elderly white males as members of the oppressor group, their deaths simply don't matter. If the suicide stats were reversed by sex, media liberals would strive to establish elderly female suicide as one of society's major concerns.

Our society prefers to focus on eradicating nonexistent sexist bigotry while ignoring the real thing.

19 posted on 08/18/2006 6:25:51 PM PDT by TChad
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To: Tiny
Its one of the things my parents never warned me about, and its been the most disappointing aspect of growing older.

Some poster wrote "growing old is not for sissies".

I think men are far less willing to be unproductive members of society. We are raised that we must earn our keep by hard work and, when we can no longer work, it's time to move on. I know I feel this way. I'm not going to let the medical community string me along in nursing homes for years like my mother is enduring. I don't see the point in going broke just to slowly deteriorate into death.

Why not go quickly with an inheritence to leave to your loved ones instead of years of pain followed by humongous medical and funeral bills? It sounds far more utilitarian although you do deny your children the "fun" of taking care of you in your "golden years".

20 posted on 08/18/2006 6:32:24 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (I wish a political party would come along that thinks like I do.)
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To: redpoll

Hit it right on the nose, bro..!


21 posted on 08/18/2006 7:30:24 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: redpoll
What we are seeing is the Baby Boomer Generation, which is a huge part of the political Far Left, coming up on infirmity in terms of the physical body, a state of degradedness that has finally caught up to their deranged and pitiful minds which have been virtually destroyed for decades now by heavy drug abuse and denial of reality.

And this high suicide rate will only become worse because we are just in the first wave of the Baby Boomer's cashing it in. Check again in 2, 4 and 6 years from now and the numbers will be astonishing.

Coupled with that, the suicide rate is going to be especially high when President Bush leaves office. Because the Left has been living in a cocoon they have made for themselves, due to the fact that they have always just had a slim grip of reality, but in the Bush years they have totally immersed themselves into an unreality where as long as President Bush is the bad guy then everything is OK because he is the danger they can understand as The Big Evil and everything wrong and threatening is his fault (as they see it).

But once President Bush leaves office then they will stripped of their alternate reality because the threats will still be manifesting themselves and Bush will be gone. That will send a great many of the Far Left into a free-fall where the only last cocoon they can wrap themselves into is death. And they will do it, think contemplate it nearly every single day. The numbers will be very high indeed. I recommend investing in the funeral industry.
22 posted on 08/19/2006 6:46:46 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

- And they will do it, think contemplate it nearly every single day.


And they will do it, they contemplate it nearly every single day.


23 posted on 08/19/2006 6:49:30 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Excellent insights.


24 posted on 08/19/2006 8:32:01 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must)
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To: ansel12

When I reread the article after my emotions had subsided I saw my own error in statistical analysis. The article states that the suicide rate for elderly white males is three times 11 people per 100,000 population - about 33 people per 100,000. I think the rate here in Alaska - again, I don't have the precise figures while typing this out - is about 40 people per 100,000. Now that doesn't translate into huge numbers, since there are only about 100,000 Native Alaskans to begin with.

So let me put this statistic personally. I've taught about 120 students in my 7-year career out here in the Bush. (Small schools, tiny villages.) Five have killed themselves. About a dozen have tried and failed. That's not what I faced in my Connecticut high school back in the late 60s and early 70s. Just this summer, we've had a few suicides up and down the river. It's so common that it isn't even commented on except as a cause of death.

Thanks again for your comment, though. The exact numbers of suicide can be found at the state of Alaska website.


25 posted on 08/19/2006 10:18:03 AM PDT by redpoll (redpoll)
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To: redpoll
I think the suicide rate will triple for all if this happens in 2008....


26 posted on 08/19/2006 11:40:32 AM PDT by Screamname (Stop gang violence, Stop marital violence...Where`s the commercials to stop Muslim violence?)
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To: redpoll
Could this be linked to the increase in erectile dysfunction as men enter middle age?

Conversely, have the number of suicides of middle aged men gone down with the introduction of Viagra?
27 posted on 08/19/2006 2:23:50 PM PDT by W. W. SMITH (I am a decorated navy veteran. my opinions are unassailable as per their rules.)
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