Posted on 08/18/2006 7:46:33 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
Reports from Seoul Korea, (daily newspaper Joongang Ilbo in Seoul) via the Japanese Jiji press agency, that South Korean intelligence has intercepted radio messages/communications in North Korea, which were aired last month, to civilians in the Kilju County, Northern Hamgyeong Province area of northeastern D.P.R.K., to evacuate.
The source in the South Korean government said "our interpretation is that following North Korea's underground nuclear blast test, they wish to head off any escape of radiation that would be a threat to the nearby civilian population and are evacuating as such."
http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20060819-00000041-jij-int as well as above.
The province in question is Hamgyong Bukdo, and is the same province where the Taepodong 2 launch site is located, in Musudanri. In fact, Kilju is not far from Musudanri....
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middle_east_and_asia/korea_north_admin_2005.pdf
And, from Global Security.org site:
"By late April 2005 there were reports that North Koreans were constructing a reviewing stand and filling in a tunnel, both signs that an underground nuclear test was imminent. Tunnels for underground nuclear tests are different from regular mines, since they have to be plugged up to contain the blast. Satellite imagery reportedly indicated the North Koreans were "stemming" the tunnel, taking material back into the shaft to plug it up. Satellite imagery indicated that North Korea was shipping concrete and grouting to the site, possibly to plug the tunnel. Although there were signs of continued activity near tunnels in the Kilju area, there was disagreement among intelligence agencies as to whether the recent activity indicated an impending nuclear test.
Other reports indicated that the satellite imagery showed the North Koreans had dug and refilled a significant hole at the suspected test site. The hole was said to have been dug in a manner consistent with preparations for an underground nuclear test, but there was no conclusive indication as to whether the North Koreans had deposited a weapon inside. These reports indicate that the shaft is a vertical shaft, rather than a horizontal tunnel. Imagery also detected frequent truck movement bringing cranes and other equipment. The presence of cranes is consistent with a vertical shaft, but not a horizontal tunnel.
Imagery was also reported to show recent construction of an elaborate reviewing stand for visiting dignitaries a few kilometers from the suspected test site. The reviewing stand was considered a significant indicator of a possible nuclear test. American intelligence had overlooked the reviewing stand built prior to the 1998 Taepodong-1 missile launch. The North Koreans had visitors from other countries invited to watch the launch.
And further on ABC-TV news reports last night of satellite views showing pre-test type movements of equipment in the area of the underground test site(s) in North Korea.
not good.
the missile tests were to show the iranians in attendance that they worked.
and now they are demonstrating the warhead for them too?
Hey, can we test OUR BOMBS over there???
Just a thought........
Headfake. Still not good.
No. Not good alright.
Since when did North Korea care about the welfare of its citizens?
BUMP and PING
Why do they bother to evacuate the civilians? They're
starving them to death anyway.
Ruh roh Shaggy....
like North Koreans have ever been given a choice?
would you buy a nuclear warhead from someone, without a demo?
One could make up some common Iranian surnames, and call hotels looking for them; it would be interesting whom the front desk would patch one through to (although all calls in and out of DPRK are monitored and the Public Security Bureau could flip a switch at once to cut the conversation)....
What are Madame Albrights current travel plans?
Good thought. And we may just be doing that in the near future if Pyongyang continues to defy the International Community.
After all, what's the point of evacuating and diminishing the Productivity of New Socialist Labor until you are sure the test has failed. ;)
indeed.
this is one way for iran to jumpstart their weapons program. it may take too long to build one, so why not just buy one? they are rolling in oil money, a $10 billion dollar purchase of 5 warheads - is chicken feed to them.
Probably most of the DPRK civilians in that area are family members of military all throughout that part of the Province, who themselves are involved in nuke warhead and missile propulsion technogies...or support personnel. They could not care less about them, yes, but they would evacuate them as the 'time' approached.
ping
Heck no. That is just me, though. I would also demand a proven delivery system, and make sure that there was sufficient blackmail of politicians. And make sure that there was huge military backing, ala China and Russia.
But that is just me.
pong
I thot Kim Dong Ill was on his honeymoon.
Instant death bad. Starvation death euphoric.
Ruh roe!
Yikes
As i am made to understand it, representations from the Islamic Republic were in fact at Musudanri as invitees for the launch on 5 July. I wonder what they were told when the damn thing blew up shortly after launch, though.
That explains this:
Gadhafi says he spoke with North Korea
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1686230/posts
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My guess is that GAdhafi was our last ditch effort to persuade NK that they would end up a lot better off, if they gave up their nukes, as G. wisely has done.
And I bet the idiot little NK dictator refused to listen.
That's been photo shopped! That's not his shade of eye shadow.
yes, but the shorter range ones tested - isn't that all they need for a theatre range weapon?
Those images say it all.. no comment needed.
Depends on whether I wanted to be sure it worked as advertised or I didn't care if it fizzled.
Not to worry. I get these notices all the time in my neighborhood. "Notice: We may or may not conduct a nuclear test in your area today, so you may or may not wish to evacuate."
Maybe this little dictator, too, will go the same way. There is a precedent.
why would you want to buy a dud?
Could a North Korean nuke test be Ahmadinejad's August 22nd announcement? We're all looking for him to bomb Israel but he sends one off in the other direction?
China might try, too, but they will have no luck with this nutcase at the helm in P'yang.
Would this be the August 22nd doomsday that Iran has been talking about?
What exactly are you going to say if the seismic sensors 8/22 record a seismic event?
He's had materials and talent on loan from Pakistan / China long enough for one to really get built. Hell the dang thing could be a giant plot by proxy by China.
with modified scuds, or those nodongs, yes you are entirely correct on that, they can take out lots of Tokyo, as well as do some nasty damage to zainichibeigunkichi (places like Misawa, Yokota, Yokosuka, Zama, etc. etc.)
it fits.
Sorry, I was posting when yours came through. Great minds think alike?
Come on now oceanview, WE have a deal. What do you care if I weld up some crap that looks just like it, and finance it to steveeg?
There is NO honor among despots anymore......
My own armchair guess here is that he will do it on September 11th. Either way, that is within one month's time from today.
Mini-Me laid low during the fighting in Lebanon. Now we know why.
How kind and caring of Dear Leader to evacuate the civies before turning their homes into a radioactive crater!
ping
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