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Trendy Village in Chicago: No Fat Chicks
National Ledger ^ | August 18, 2006 | Frederick Meekins

Posted on 08/18/2006 9:25:58 PM PDT by Lorianne

According to reports, a trendy Chicago suburb voted “the sexiest suburb in America” may be on the verge of banishing from its venues of commerce those not conforming to arbitrarily contrived body aesthetics.

Lane Bryant, a retailer known for marketing clothing to full-sized women, has been denied the opportunity to open a store in a development called “The Village Of Oak Park”.

Before the hypercapitalists decide to slit my throat as they are wont to do whenever anyone dares to question a decision made by big business, it must be noted that the decision to deny Lane Bryant the retail space was not made by a private sector firm or entrepreneur but rather by the committee managing the village, an entity quasigovernmental in nature.

The bureaucratic mouthpiece for the community association told the press that, “Lane Bryant is not the kind or quality of shop that is desire for development,” and, “We want a more broad based retailer benefiting the village, rather than a niche market.”

In other words, “Fat chicks, keep out.” For unless the Village --- a term as almost as nauseating as COMMUNITY as it is usually invoked by an insular elite out to micromangage the lives of those residing in a particular locality --- is planning to open a Wal-Mart or a Target (places these Communitarian types despise even more than the overweight), by definition the retailer would otherwise serve a niche market.

For example, does Oak Park Village plan to offer a men’s clothier? By default, such an establishment would be niche because of excluding women’s garments. Does the Village plan to have an electronics store? By definition, wouldn’t that be a niche retailer since it would not sell groceries?

The rich and snooty thinking it is their place to tell us poor working slobs how to live and how we are not quite as good as they are since the names slapped across our rearends didn’t cost quite as much as theirs will look down their elevated noses and claim that what I describe above has nothing to do with niche retailing. Rather a broad-based retailer would provide raiment for members of the retailer’s targeted genders.

Maybe so, but the person slightly above “average” in size can hardly ever find attrative clothes in these places catering to the malnourished and emaciated. One is often more likely to find the Holy Grail than a decent shoe above a size 12 in many of these places.

In a Chicago Tribune account of the dispute, it is claimed that Villagistas banished Lane Bryant because there was already a place reserved for a full size specialty store. So what?

Is it really the place of a municipal authority or even a residential association to make such economic decisions? Consumers should be the ones to decide whether the market can bear two merchants appealing to a similar demographic. If it cannot, one will eventually fold opening space for a new establishment; if it can, consumers will be all the better off as both venues will compete for customer dollars through either discounts or choices of selection.

All local authorities should do is to make sure the area surrounding the mall is crime free and to eagerly take in any tax revenue to accrue from otherwise free and unfettered commerce. However, it is this idea of consumer choice that the proponents of the “New Urbanism” cannot really stand as they use their cloak of diversity to impose a mandatory conformity.

Many advocating this perspective on public planning are appalled at the idea of the cinema multiplex where moviegoers have a selection of motion pictures to choose from. To the Communitarians, we are to have a limited media so that we are all exposed to the same thing and thus have community thrust upon us through a uniformity of thought. Seems choice is only to be allowed when promiscuous vixens decide to have their unborn children hacked to pieces.

Today, Oak Park Village conspires to retain its distinction as “sexiest suburb” by taking steps to ensure that all those fat people the anti-obesity racket has labeled “unsightly and unattractive” use these facilities at a minimum. What is to prevent them from banning such people all together?

Don’t laugh. Shu Bartholomew hosts an informative webcast called “On The Commons Radio” that catalogs episode after episode the abuses of power and unbelievable petty bylaws endemic to the system of homeowner associations sweeping across the United States like a plague of locusts devouring all the liberties stranded in their path.

On her guest appearance on Freedom 21 Santa Cruz, another eye opening broadcast warning of the dangers of contemporary community planning and the like, Shu detailed the plight of one homeowner that had to have the family dog weighed periodically to ensure that the canine did not go a few ounces over the weight stipulated for pets in the residential association regulations.

What is to stop a similar law or regulation from being promulgated that people over a certain size are not permitted to live in a particular housing development? Ridiculous, those of limited perspective might snap.

But is it? Already various community development authorities are manipulating the rules of the game to attract the kinds of people they want to allow into their own little versions of utopia.

For example, in Hyattsville, Maryland, subsidized housing is being set aside for so-called “struggling-artists” even though hardly anyone else either can afford the dilapidated housing ranging from $300,000 to $500,000 with tax bills over $3000 a year (as Dolly Parton use to quip regarding her own appearance, it sure costs a lot to look so cheap). Another program paid for at public expense around the country gives preferential mortgages to teachers.

Neither artists nor teachers make that much less than us common folks and are often found on the more shiftless end of the labor spectrum. If anything, the members of these respective occupational classes given over to the radicalism infecting much of the intelligentsia have done the most to subvert this great nation over the past few decades.

Those favoring the malnourished look wouldn’t really need to be all that openly hostile initially in their campaign to banish the portly from these oases of optimal nutrition and fitness. In the name of health, municipalities and residential associations could enact rules demanding those living in a certain area participate in COMMUNITY exercise programs and those caught snacking on certain foods or weighing over a certain amount could be forced to pay a fine (or as such assessments are called in the Owellian lexicon) an additional fee.

Already the White House is conspiring to measure the urinary byproducts of dope in various sewer systems around the nation. I am sure some clever chemist could devise some kind of test to determine what kinds of snack foods are being excreted by the eating public.

Once Americans have been conditioned to accept increased dietary oversight, additional measures could eventually be introduced. For example, those refusing to comply with the promulgated standards of body aesthetics in reference to weight despite incurring the established financial disincentives could be relocated to cellulite liquidation centers where, of course, they would never be heard from again.

Some might laugh and say that in America such action would never be taken against those failing to abide by such arbitrary standards. At one time, the very same people said a government agency would never tell a property manager what retailer might set up shop in a private facility or seize a beloved home that’s been in a family for generations just to placate the influential as evident in the threat posed be eminent domain.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial
KEYWORDS: chicago; dietandexercise; elitists; govwatch; ittakesavillage; keepowt; libertarians; nannystate; noheavyloads; obesity; plussizes; snobs
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1 posted on 08/18/2006 9:25:59 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: everyone

Sheesh ... get a life, Fred.


2 posted on 08/18/2006 9:28:30 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: Lorianne

unelected quasi-government associations and these so-called 'regional taxing authorities' are the worst things ever.


3 posted on 08/18/2006 9:29:58 PM PDT by GeronL (flogerloon.blogspot.com -------------> Rise of the Hate Party)
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To: Lorianne

4 posted on 08/18/2006 9:30:41 PM PDT by misterrob
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To: Lorianne

I bet Mr. Frederick Meekins pees sitting down


5 posted on 08/18/2006 9:32:50 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: Lorianne

Has anyone been there, can they answer this question - is this ordinance to keep out fat folk, or black folk?


6 posted on 08/18/2006 9:33:37 PM PDT by japaneseghost (()
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To: Lorianne

natalie maines is crying....


7 posted on 08/18/2006 9:40:32 PM PDT by fahraint (git theah fuhstest with the mostest)
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To: Lorianne

Does anyone think this is very different from communities that prohibit strip clubs and porn shops?

I mean, yes, the motivation may be different, but isn't the banning a legal commercial enterprise the perogative of the citizenry?


8 posted on 08/18/2006 9:41:02 PM PDT by Ludicrous
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To: japaneseghost
Has anyone been there, can they answer this question - is this ordinance to keep out fat folk, or black folk?

Very many black folks are not obese, so your query isn't legit.

9 posted on 08/18/2006 9:43:51 PM PDT by jla
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

That's her belly-button I'm seeing, right?


11 posted on 08/18/2006 9:46:35 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush II --> Appeasing Islam for 27 years)
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To: Finalapproach29er
Don't ask.

You don't wanna know.

Really.

Trust the ol' Bustard on this one.

12 posted on 08/18/2006 9:49:28 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Lorianne

First they came for the smokers.


13 posted on 08/18/2006 9:51:01 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: Finalapproach29er

yeah, her belly button. That's it alright.


14 posted on 08/18/2006 9:52:31 PM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (Put a mirror to the face of the republican party and all you'll see is a Donkey.)
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To: japaneseghost
Oak Park is a VERY LIBERAL town that is racial mixed.. with mostly rich people of color.
Many years ago they passed a no guns whatsoever ordinance and within a couple of days a gas station of the border was robbed.
The owner of the gas station made the mistake of shooting at the robber with his outlawed gun. He was in deep trouble.
15 posted on 08/18/2006 9:53:17 PM PDT by The Brush
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To: Lorianne

Oak Park is a "nuclear free" zone. That ought to tell about the rich idiots who live there.

As if a nuclear bomb that hit Chicago would not destroy Oak Park all of ten miles from the Loop.


16 posted on 08/18/2006 9:58:17 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: japaneseghost

Its Eastern border is with a terrible ghetto. Almost all the streets between the two are walled off so no entry from the ghetto.


17 posted on 08/18/2006 10:00:31 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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Last time I flew commercial, I had seat 21B, this lovely honey had seat 21A. It was a 6 hour flight. She put the armrest between us in the up position. It was a long day.


18 posted on 08/18/2006 10:02:44 PM PDT by Wycowboy
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To: Wycowboy

So what is yer' point about the airplane ride?


19 posted on 08/18/2006 10:05:31 PM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Lorianne

" “Lane Bryant is not the kind or quality of shop that is desire for development,” and, “We want a more broad based retailer benefiting the village, rather than a niche market.” "

I'm confused -- I thought they said that Lane Bryant is a "broad based" retailer.


20 posted on 08/18/2006 10:09:07 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Lorianne
Maybe so, but the person slightly above “average” in size can hardly ever find attrative clothes in these places catering to the malnourished and emaciated. One is often more likely to find the Holy Grail than a decent shoe above a size 12 in many of these places.

This is a very disingenuous statement. It's akin to a disgustingly overweight girl trying to substantiate herself by saying men prefer a 'voluptuous' woman rather than she put the chicken wings down and exercise.
When one's flab has flab it is no longer "average". What it is though is obese folks coming up with an excuse to try and get society to conform and accept a mostly lazy, gluttonous lifestyle.
In their desperate, skewed reasoning they think it's a fault in others, certainly not themselves, that fat folks aren't thought of in the same way as one with an athletic, slender body or even one with an actual 'average' physique.

As for home assoc's, my neighborhood has one. I am not being forced to live here, and to tell you the truth I do find it has more pros than cons.
Folks err when thinking it's an affront to one's liberty. It is actually liberty in action - a group of people asserting their choice to live within certain, agreed upon restrictions.

As for the Bush WH inspecting sewage for a link to dopers eating habits - Fred sounds like a discontented and miserable man who goes to any length, no matter how absurd, in trying to rationalize himself to others.

21 posted on 08/18/2006 10:11:33 PM PDT by jla
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To: Lorianne
Hey I love a sassy talking fat chick (Larry the Cable Guy voice)
22 posted on 08/18/2006 10:17:48 PM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: mysterio

"First they came for the smokers."

I've drawn my line in the sand but it sure isn't in front of fat people.


23 posted on 08/18/2006 10:17:57 PM PDT by jwh_Denver (I can't beat em but I ain't joining them either.)
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To: Lorianne

No $#it. Because a mall group doesn't want two large-size clothiers it's the friggen end of the world. It's not worth 2 paragraphs much less TWENTY-FIVE. (yeah I counted, wanna make somethin' of it?)

And this is a guy writing this???


24 posted on 08/18/2006 10:49:15 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: Lorianne

Just roll em in flour and look for the.....nevermind


25 posted on 08/18/2006 10:49:35 PM PDT by pissant
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To: jla

Wow. Just....wow.

What, you were mugged by a fat person, maybe?


26 posted on 08/18/2006 10:52:40 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: jwh_Denver

Good for you.


27 posted on 08/18/2006 10:54:08 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: Lorianne

Yet, I wonder if fat guys are okay.


28 posted on 08/18/2006 10:55:43 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy (Like food and fun? Join the Freeper Kitchen ping list.)
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To: Lorianne
“We want a more broad based retailer benefiting the village, rather than a niche market.”

29 posted on 08/18/2006 10:56:48 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: Blue Jays
So what is yer' point about the airplane ride?

It only makes sense in context. Comment 10 was the context.

30 posted on 08/18/2006 11:03:35 PM PDT by Wycowboy
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To: Wycowboy
She put the armrest between us in the up position.

They're made to go down too, you know.

31 posted on 08/18/2006 11:53:07 PM PDT by gogeo (The /sarc tag is a form of training wheels for those unable to discern intellectual subtlety.)
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To: Lorianne

"In a Chicago Tribune account of the dispute, it is claimed that Villagistas banished Lane Bryant because there was already a place reserved for a full size specialty store."

Before going on a jagged tear about liberal discrimination, I'd have looked into whether any of the committee had ties to the "approved" full sized score. Occam's razor.


32 posted on 08/18/2006 11:56:03 PM PDT by tlb
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To: investigateworld

Uhg we sufferred through Larry Cable Guy Health Inspector.

If I knew the other person was bored I would have suggested we turn it off, but I have the net dialed up so when a tv/dvd gets unbearable I start reading.


33 posted on 08/19/2006 12:00:40 AM PDT by Global2010 (Show me da paw Ya'll)
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To: Lorianne

Will they expel their residents if they should happen to gain weight because of medical problems? Bit discriminatory.

Lane Bryant has specialized in "full figured clothes" for many years.

The area mentioned sounds as if it full of plastic superficial
residents.


34 posted on 08/19/2006 12:01:43 AM PDT by Goldie Lurks (professional moonbat catcher)
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To: Gabz; SheLion; Diana in Wisconsin

nanny state ping


35 posted on 08/19/2006 12:05:09 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: jla

serious question are you being sarcastic with every word you write in post 21? If not maybe america is not the best place for you to be living i hear north korea is nice this time of year and there are tens of millions of people living within certain agreed upon restrictions(Although for some reason that number isshrinking more and more every day)check out michelle malkins hot air blog to see what those are and as an added bonus there are no fat people whatso ever in all of north korea to offend your eyes. the strong central government makes sure of that


36 posted on 08/19/2006 12:11:57 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: Gabz; SheLion; Diana in Wisconsin

i didnt read any of the posts before i pinged you the first time but in case you dont have time to read thruogh them all pay very close attention to the 1984 newspeak post #21 freedom is slavery black is white and up is down in about 90 percent of the freepers posts on this thread. Seriously i really think america is doomed when these are the voters that are going to decide the political direction we take as a nation.Buy lots of foriegn real estate if you can possibley afford it


37 posted on 08/19/2006 12:16:41 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: freepatriot32

only in America!


38 posted on 08/19/2006 12:17:36 AM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (America Love it or Leave it!)
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To: Abram; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Allosaurs_r_us; Americanwolf; Americanwolfsbrother; Annie03; ...
post 21 hell every post on this thread says it all about the state of the small less intrusive government "Republicans"

Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here

39 posted on 08/19/2006 12:25:19 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: Global2010

I'm in the boondocks of Oregon, it was funny to me....
(Lowbrow FReeper here)


40 posted on 08/19/2006 12:32:51 AM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: mysterio

They were warned. I guess most folks like the idea of nanny-state solving all their problems.

Until they wind up in the re-education camps themselves, that is.


41 posted on 08/19/2006 12:33:56 AM PDT by 383rr (IThose who choose security over liberty deserve neither- GUN CONTROL=SLAVERY)
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To: Goldie Lurks
The area mentioned sounds as if it full of plastic superficial residents.

That statement pretty much wraps up Oak Park, Illinois.

42 posted on 08/19/2006 12:36:13 AM PDT by Bernard (God helps those who helps themselves - The US Government takes in the rest.)
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To: jla

I know women who wear plus-sized clothes who are drop-dead gorgeous. A lot of them aren't "fat" per se, just tall, broad shouldered amazon-types who look damn good in a bikini. People have gotten bigger over the years, so what once was considered an "obese" height/ weight ratio could now be merely a big-boned or muscular woman.


43 posted on 08/19/2006 12:45:05 AM PDT by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: California Patriot
If they banned fat women from my commuter bus there would be no women on it at all. :-)
44 posted on 08/19/2006 12:52:28 AM PDT by cgbg (MSM aid and comfort to the enemy costs American lives.)
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To: investigateworld

Different tastes.



But I like the Australian comedy show Kath and Kim thats on tv.

Drove me nuts at first but got catchy after awhile.

The comedy movie RV in our Oregon Coastal boondocks is a big hit.

Still did not get more than a few chuckles out of me.

We are big wierd Al Yankovich fans.

Waiting to go to his concert when he comes back up.

I guess we all have different funny bones. I like Foxworthy.


45 posted on 08/19/2006 12:55:12 AM PDT by Global2010 (Show me da paw Ya'll)
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To: Goldie Lurks

I thought the same thing.

If a gal is a size 3 loses her thyroid gland and plumps up to a 18 guess its time to move else they can put a lean/lein on her home.

They can have their neighborhood whatever way the like it.

I don't like having nieghbors period so I moved to a place where we all live acres apart on purpose.

Yet we do get together for events and we all get along well.


46 posted on 08/19/2006 1:03:22 AM PDT by Global2010 (Show me da paw Ya'll)
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To: Global2010; doug from upland
I luv Foxworthy. I read his first book while at the Fontana CA Kaiser ER.

That place could just as well be a casting call for characters in a Deliverance type movie.

47 posted on 08/19/2006 1:22:02 AM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: investigateworld
Where is Fontana, Cali.

I moved up to Oregon from the East Bay Area 20 years ago.

LOL Alot of the folks living within miles of me are from my area.

Retired or just fled the urban jungle.
48 posted on 08/19/2006 1:42:29 AM PDT by Global2010 (Show me da paw Ya'll)
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To: Lorianne
Don’t laugh. Shu Bartholomew hosts an informative webcast called “On The Commons Radio” that catalogs episode after episode the abuses of power and unbelievable petty bylaws endemic to the system of homeowner associations sweeping across the United States like a plague of locusts devouring all the liberties stranded in their path.

Every day, when I look at my neighbors yard, I wish my neighborhood had a homeowners covenant. Though some have gone overboard, most were designed to keep out the riffraff.

49 posted on 08/19/2006 1:47:22 AM PDT by Razz Barry
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To: Lorianne

Oak Park must think there is something tawdry about "big and tall" shops. Fine for them, the big and the tall will simply spend their dollars and raise tax income in some other place.


50 posted on 08/19/2006 1:48:56 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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