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China's UN Ambassador Asks the U.S. to "Shut Up"
Kommersant ^ | 18 August 2006 | Alexander Gabuev

Posted on 08/20/2006 3:48:32 AM PDT by Marechal

China’s UN Ambassador Asks the US to Shut Up

Official Opinion

China’s Ambassador to the UN Sha Zukang admonished Washington yesterday of interfering in Beijing’s domestic affairs, particularly in its military program. Asked by a BBC reporter about China’s growing military budget, Sha Zukang did not contain himself and shouted out: “The population of China is six times as much as that of the United States. So, it’s time for Americans to shut up and keep quiet. They will be better off like this.”

“The United States have the right to settle domestic problems on its own, so let them not pry into China’s internal affairs,” the Chinese diplomat said. Sha Zukang also warned that if Taiwan declares independency and any country recognizes it, China will apply military force. “It is not a question of how big Taiwan is. Each centimeter of Chinese land is more important to us than lives of our soldiers,” the Chinese ambassador to UN stated openly.

China has not spoken so harsh on the Taiwan issue for a couple of years. These blunt words may cost Sha Zukang his post and career but the speech of China’s ambassador to the UN shows the hardening of the Chinese leadership’s stance on the Taiwan issue and possible conflict with the United States.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: biteme; china; chinesemilitary; geopolitics; with6yougeteggroll
Methinks it's time to reduce the population of China severely in the near future.
1 posted on 08/20/2006 3:48:33 AM PDT by Marechal
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To: Marechal

What did he say????


2 posted on 08/20/2006 3:51:52 AM PDT by Dallas59 (I HAVE A TRACFONE!!!)
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To: Marechal

They are doing it to themselves already. Already the well-off Communist Party elites in cities like Shanghai are as self-indulgent and hedonistic as their Euro role models on things like "enjoying themselves". They have, on average, 1.1 children without any enforcement of one-child policy on them.


3 posted on 08/20/2006 3:52:06 AM PDT by NZerFromHK (The languages may be dialects, but America is different from the Anglo world due to US Founding.)
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To: Dallas59

He says the US should shut up regarding the PRC's defence/military expenditures.


4 posted on 08/20/2006 3:52:38 AM PDT by NZerFromHK (The languages may be dialects, but America is different from the Anglo world due to US Founding.)
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To: Nightshift

ping...


5 posted on 08/20/2006 3:52:52 AM PDT by tutstar (Baptist ping list-freepmail to get on or off)
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To: NZerFromHK

Ok.


6 posted on 08/20/2006 3:54:31 AM PDT by Dallas59 (I HAVE A TRACFONE!!!)
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To: Dallas59

Well...He just better watch his mouth or else....else....get a strong condemnation!


7 posted on 08/20/2006 3:55:58 AM PDT by Dallas59 (I HAVE A TRACFONE!!!)
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To: Marechal

They are upset Bill Clinton can't sell them any more items.


8 posted on 08/20/2006 4:08:31 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
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To: Marechal
So, it’s time for Americans to shut up and keep quiet. They will be better off like this.”

And the billion Chinese coolies and slave laborers are better "dead than red."

Long past time to shove those missiles all aimed at North America down their throats!

If it hadn't been for Comrade Truman they wouldn't be in place today.

9 posted on 08/20/2006 4:12:06 AM PDT by SFCGeraldRTostensen
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To: tutstar

No. It's King Chong Pong.......Ping!


10 posted on 08/20/2006 4:18:53 AM PDT by 03A3
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To: NZerFromHK

I thought China was having 1.84 children per woman. In other words, almost as much as we are.


11 posted on 08/20/2006 4:23:00 AM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: CheyennePress

He's talking about the elites.


12 posted on 08/20/2006 4:39:34 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: Marechal

Keep buying that cheap imported crap in Target, Wal-Mart, etc.

Every nickle and dime you spend on Chinese goods goes towards strengthening their military.

George Bush I and Bill CLinton and the current Presidnt have done NOTHING to stem the flow of American dollars into the pockets of an enemy of America, after their face was clearly shown to the world in Tienemen Square.

Globalism is weakening America and empowering our enemies.


13 posted on 08/20/2006 4:45:53 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Marechal
I would have responded:

I agree with the One China policy completely. And as soon as the rebellious provinces surrender to the Kuomintang we'd be pleased to see it move forward.
14 posted on 08/20/2006 4:49:02 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: Marechal

Monkeys-in-suits Bump.


15 posted on 08/20/2006 4:58:14 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (A wall first. A wall now.)
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To: ZULU

You are correct and we are building their military. I am in the fishing tackle business and have trademarks that are stomped on by Chinese copycat companies. We invest, advertise and make a product popular and then an American company will go to China and copy our products at 1/10th the cost. Many people say "thats the global market, join or go out of business". I refuse to use their slave labor period. I ask people all the time how can walmart sell a layout lawn chair for 7.99 that has all that plastic and metal plus it has to be shipped???? Answer:Their labor costs do not factor into the equation and its evil.


16 posted on 08/20/2006 5:02:42 AM PDT by liberty or death
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To: liberty or death

And yet there are may so-called "conservatives" on this forum who would attack us both on this issue and continue to defend this madness.


17 posted on 08/20/2006 5:09:34 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: CheyennePress
The CIA Fact Book estimates the present (2006) Total Fertility Rates (TFR) for the US and PRC at 2.06 and 1.73 respectively. Simply put, the US rate is just at replacement while the PRC's is in net decline - although from significantly different population starting points (the PRC's 1.2 billion versus the US at 300 million).

While looking up this information, I came across another interesting fact. China, while approximately the same size in total territory as the United States, has only half as much arable land. IOW, the Chinese are presently supporting four times as many people as the US does on one half the arable land. This might provide some foundation for the increasing Chinese hunger for resources. (Although that in no way excuses the Chinese ambassador's remarks.)
18 posted on 08/20/2006 5:29:08 AM PDT by Captain Rhino ( Dollars spent in India help a friend; dollars spent in China arm an enemy.)
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To: liberty or death

I agree with you (as my tagline indicates). I purchase non-Chinese whenever possible and absolutely refuse to consider PRC-sourced items on big purchases. However, my refusal to buy Chinese is sometimes termpered at the lower range by considerations of value. For example, I recently bought a pair of Chinese-made welder's pliers (the ones with the wide smooth jaws) for $4.00 because the US-made version of the same product was $30.00! Had the US-made pliers been $8.00 or even $10.00, I would have bought them. But a nearly ten times price differential cannot be justified.

So, in addition to complaining about how cheap Chinese manufactured goods are (and your lawn chair example makes me think that maybe some anti-dumping investigations are in order), maybe we should also ask why the price for US-manufactured goods has to be so non-competitive when the US workforce is reputed to be one of the most efficient in the world.


19 posted on 08/20/2006 5:45:28 AM PDT by Captain Rhino ( Dollars spent in India help a friend; dollars spent in China arm an enemy.)
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To: liberty or death

How do you combat copyright infringement?


20 posted on 08/20/2006 5:50:21 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: liberty or death; ZULU
I ask people all the time how can walmart sell a layout lawn chair for 7.99 that has all that plastic and metal plus it has to be shipped???? Answer:Their labor costs do not factor into the equation and its evil.

Then as a capitalist, I reply: "It may be evil, but it sure beats the hell out of spending 29.99 for the same chair made by Americans. I get to benefit by spending fewer dollars to get the same product. If the Chinese don't mind being opressed (The counter-revolution is dead, Jim!), why should I care?"

If we can't come up with better ways to build products cheaper, maybe we need to eliminate the labor unions who, by their mere existence, make products more costly and lower gas taxes to make shipping goods less expensive.

Most importantly, doesn't being anti-WalMart put one on the same side of the argument as the anti-business DU types?

21 posted on 08/20/2006 5:55:13 AM PDT by Triggerhippie (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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To: Captain Rhino

The thing that gets me is that the American branded items that cost 5-10 times as much are only assembled and packaged here, if that, and are still made in China.

It's time we learned from history, we built the war machine of Japan that attacked us and we are doing the same thing with China.

This time we are worse off because we have offshored all our base industries to foreign countries, including oil and mining, and can be cut off at any moment.


22 posted on 08/20/2006 6:03:19 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: Marechal
China's UN Ambassador Asks the U.S. to "Shut Up"

Understandable. After all, freedom of speech is a foreign concept to the Chinese

23 posted on 08/20/2006 6:04:58 AM PDT by Begin (Mister, we could use a man like Ronald Reagan again.)
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To: durasell

The up front cost of trademark lawsuits is roughly $75,000. This is the estimate of both of our trademark attorneys and the process takes about two years.


24 posted on 08/20/2006 6:07:09 AM PDT by liberty or death
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To: liberty or death

I have a friend who was ripped off royal. He started the lawsuits and spent a fortune without much success of stopping the flood of imports. He switched tactics to advertising his products as "American Made" with "American Quality" and got somewhat better response.


Your thoughts?


25 posted on 08/20/2006 6:11:04 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: dalereed

Yes and meanwhile a lot of us 'outsourced' technical people are getting close to retirement, so if anyone DOES want to de-outsource (if that is even a real word), the people like me on this side of the pond, won't be around to do the work.

And the college kids are being told by their parents and others, NOT to go into any computer-related areas or they will be outsourced.

Talk about shooting ourselves in the foot. feet. whatever.


26 posted on 08/20/2006 6:12:06 AM PDT by SusaninOhio
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To: Triggerhippie

Walmart is just an example. We could use any store for that matter. I agree with you on the labor unions but slave labor is not the answer. China is in the middle of one of the largest and fastest military buildups in history. We are the largest consumer economy in the world and we are building that military. One day our sons or grandsons will die because we wanted to buy everything cheap.


27 posted on 08/20/2006 6:13:06 AM PDT by liberty or death
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To: durasell

Thats what we do now."Made in the USA". What we produce is component wise and small so the sell price is not much different but the margins for us are smaller because of labor. Soon we will be large enough that we will automate everything and instead of needing 8 people we'll need 2.


28 posted on 08/20/2006 6:18:28 AM PDT by liberty or death
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To: liberty or death

Ever hear of Garlands?


29 posted on 08/20/2006 6:22:03 AM PDT by winodog (Who will stop Bubba and the Beast in 08?)
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To: liberty or death

The fact of the matter is, a lot of the U.S. made stuff is of much higher quality. People refuse to believe that, but it is true.

The other thing my friend did is put a lot of time/effort into R&D (not hard since he's an engineer) and tried to stay a step ahead of the Chicoms.

But this is a tough fight, so good luck to you!


30 posted on 08/20/2006 6:24:23 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Captain Rhino

I agree on the price difference. Sometimes it makes no sense. What I do know from experience is that I pay rep's to keep my products on shelves and for some companies all you need is the right contacts. Some want us to double our retail price so they can make more money and with the right hand shake and money under the table this does happen. I don't play the game and keep all my business above board. It takes longer but i sleep better. As in an earlier post I mentioned automation being the key to US business cost cutting. This is used in most of our industries so the price differences are simple gouging on the part of certain distributors.Often these distributors have an exclusive on that brand. Long story but another instance where corrupt people seem to congregate.


31 posted on 08/20/2006 6:29:32 AM PDT by liberty or death
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To: winodog

No, why?


32 posted on 08/20/2006 6:31:45 AM PDT by liberty or death
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To: Marechal

Due to the little stump of a dictator in NK (and his impending nuke test), china will soon face a Nuclear S. Korea, Japan, and Taiwan. Enjoy those domestic problems you little yellow commie ba$tards!

LLS


33 posted on 08/20/2006 6:33:42 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: All

Thanks all for the discussion. I'm "Gone Fishing".


34 posted on 08/20/2006 6:34:24 AM PDT by liberty or death
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To: liberty or death

Garlands is the name of a fishing lure company in AZ that is famous around the world for some bass lure they came up with years ago. They still pour the molds and make everything by hand. Including packaging small lures and tackle. Its not far from me and my friend owns it.


35 posted on 08/20/2006 6:38:31 AM PDT by winodog (Who will stop Bubba and the Beast in 08?)
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To: liberty or death

http://www.canyon-plastics.com/


36 posted on 08/20/2006 6:40:07 AM PDT by winodog (Who will stop Bubba and the Beast in 08?)
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To: Marechal
Well, at least he politely "asked"...

/sarc
37 posted on 08/20/2006 6:57:37 AM PDT by KillTime (Democracies that can't distinguish between good and evil or deny any difference shall surely perish.)
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To: Triggerhippie

I guess, as a good capitalist, you would have preferred selling produce to the British in 1776 for good silver, to selling produce to American toops for continental paper.

While we're on the subject of silver dollars, would you make thirty pieces of silver.......


There's a limit to the benefits of pure economic gain, even in a capitalist system.

Sending your dollars overseas to help arm a dangerous enemy is one of them.


38 posted on 08/20/2006 7:27:02 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Marechal
This should be our response.


39 posted on 08/20/2006 10:55:43 AM PDT by Tamar1973 (Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.)
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To: CheyennePress

My figure is from among the wealthy and powerful elites in the coastal regions like Shanghai or Guangdong. It excludes ethnic minorities, the less well off, and rural populations so this is why it is much lower than the one you have, which is for all China.


40 posted on 08/20/2006 12:04:39 PM PDT by NZerFromHK (The languages may be dialects, but America is different from the Anglo world due to US Founding.)
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To: Marechal
SHUT UP? Can't take their own medicine , eh?

Off course China NEVER interferes with the internal matters of Japan or the US,

1) Japan: Every time Koizumi attends the yasakuni shrine, China interferes with the domestic issues of Japan

2) USA: Chinese shipments of AK-47s to the gangs of California, interdicted. No, China does not interfere with the internal issues of the USA!

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[http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/loral.html] (this is a REALLY GOOD READ )

The massive gun shipment would have gone through, flooding America's cities with weapons ruled inappropriate by the Clinton administration, but the deal was suspended in the wake of the aforementioned COSCO connected smuggling operation - which was short-circuited by federal agents just weeks after Wang Jun's importation waivers were granted. On the night of March 18, 1996, undercover Customs and BATF agents accepted delivery of guns smuggled aboard the COSCO ship Empress Phoenix, as part of an ongoing sting operation dubbed "Dragon Fire." The undercover agents had lured the Chinese into making a trial shipment of Chinese machine guns: a dry run set up to establish a working relationship before the Chinese granted access to their full inventory. Besides the smuggled guns, which they recommended for the California street gang market, the Chinese operatives explained that they were ready to sell everything from grenade launchers to shoulder fired Red Parakeet surface to air missiles, which they boasted could "take out a 747". (Coincidentally, a Boeing 747 was taken out over the skies of Long Island just months later.) That March night, federal agents secretly unpacked COSCO crates containing 2,000 Poly Technologies AK-47's delivered from the hold of the Empress Phoenix. It was the largest seizure of fully operational automatic weapons in the history of U. S. law enforcement.

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When these little Commie Red Chiniese start yelling "shut up," you know we have there number. Press on and drive it home, and give the little yellow perils some of their own medicine. Soon we will have to make all of the items we have to import from China now, so lets get it on, and get back to the good old Made in the USA, and be happier for it.

41 posted on 08/20/2006 2:53:45 PM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: ZULU

Worrying about the Chinese as an enemy before radical Islamism is destroyed is a bit like worrying about winning the Super Bowl when you haven't yet won your conference.


42 posted on 08/20/2006 11:01:06 PM PDT by Triggerhippie (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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To: Triggerhippie

Red China and Islam are to America as Japan and Nazi Germany were in the 1940's.

We don't have the option of ignoring either one.


43 posted on 08/22/2006 8:17:10 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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