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China's UN Ambassador Asks the U.S. to "Shut Up"
Kommersant ^ | 18 August 2006 | Alexander Gabuev

Posted on 08/20/2006 3:48:32 AM PDT by Marechal

China’s UN Ambassador Asks the US to Shut Up

Official Opinion

China’s Ambassador to the UN Sha Zukang admonished Washington yesterday of interfering in Beijing’s domestic affairs, particularly in its military program. Asked by a BBC reporter about China’s growing military budget, Sha Zukang did not contain himself and shouted out: “The population of China is six times as much as that of the United States. So, it’s time for Americans to shut up and keep quiet. They will be better off like this.”

“The United States have the right to settle domestic problems on its own, so let them not pry into China’s internal affairs,” the Chinese diplomat said. Sha Zukang also warned that if Taiwan declares independency and any country recognizes it, China will apply military force. “It is not a question of how big Taiwan is. Each centimeter of Chinese land is more important to us than lives of our soldiers,” the Chinese ambassador to UN stated openly.

China has not spoken so harsh on the Taiwan issue for a couple of years. These blunt words may cost Sha Zukang his post and career but the speech of China’s ambassador to the UN shows the hardening of the Chinese leadership’s stance on the Taiwan issue and possible conflict with the United States.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: biteme; china; chinesemilitary; geopolitics; with6yougeteggroll
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To: liberty or death; ZULU
I ask people all the time how can walmart sell a layout lawn chair for 7.99 that has all that plastic and metal plus it has to be shipped???? Answer:Their labor costs do not factor into the equation and its evil.

Then as a capitalist, I reply: "It may be evil, but it sure beats the hell out of spending 29.99 for the same chair made by Americans. I get to benefit by spending fewer dollars to get the same product. If the Chinese don't mind being opressed (The counter-revolution is dead, Jim!), why should I care?"

If we can't come up with better ways to build products cheaper, maybe we need to eliminate the labor unions who, by their mere existence, make products more costly and lower gas taxes to make shipping goods less expensive.

Most importantly, doesn't being anti-WalMart put one on the same side of the argument as the anti-business DU types?

21 posted on 08/20/2006 5:55:13 AM PDT by Triggerhippie (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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To: Captain Rhino

The thing that gets me is that the American branded items that cost 5-10 times as much are only assembled and packaged here, if that, and are still made in China.

It's time we learned from history, we built the war machine of Japan that attacked us and we are doing the same thing with China.

This time we are worse off because we have offshored all our base industries to foreign countries, including oil and mining, and can be cut off at any moment.


22 posted on 08/20/2006 6:03:19 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: Marechal
China's UN Ambassador Asks the U.S. to "Shut Up"

Understandable. After all, freedom of speech is a foreign concept to the Chinese

23 posted on 08/20/2006 6:04:58 AM PDT by Begin (Mister, we could use a man like Ronald Reagan again.)
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To: durasell

The up front cost of trademark lawsuits is roughly $75,000. This is the estimate of both of our trademark attorneys and the process takes about two years.


24 posted on 08/20/2006 6:07:09 AM PDT by liberty or death
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To: liberty or death

I have a friend who was ripped off royal. He started the lawsuits and spent a fortune without much success of stopping the flood of imports. He switched tactics to advertising his products as "American Made" with "American Quality" and got somewhat better response.


Your thoughts?


25 posted on 08/20/2006 6:11:04 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: dalereed

Yes and meanwhile a lot of us 'outsourced' technical people are getting close to retirement, so if anyone DOES want to de-outsource (if that is even a real word), the people like me on this side of the pond, won't be around to do the work.

And the college kids are being told by their parents and others, NOT to go into any computer-related areas or they will be outsourced.

Talk about shooting ourselves in the foot. feet. whatever.


26 posted on 08/20/2006 6:12:06 AM PDT by SusaninOhio
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To: Triggerhippie

Walmart is just an example. We could use any store for that matter. I agree with you on the labor unions but slave labor is not the answer. China is in the middle of one of the largest and fastest military buildups in history. We are the largest consumer economy in the world and we are building that military. One day our sons or grandsons will die because we wanted to buy everything cheap.


27 posted on 08/20/2006 6:13:06 AM PDT by liberty or death
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To: durasell

Thats what we do now."Made in the USA". What we produce is component wise and small so the sell price is not much different but the margins for us are smaller because of labor. Soon we will be large enough that we will automate everything and instead of needing 8 people we'll need 2.


28 posted on 08/20/2006 6:18:28 AM PDT by liberty or death
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To: liberty or death

Ever hear of Garlands?


29 posted on 08/20/2006 6:22:03 AM PDT by winodog (Who will stop Bubba and the Beast in 08?)
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To: liberty or death

The fact of the matter is, a lot of the U.S. made stuff is of much higher quality. People refuse to believe that, but it is true.

The other thing my friend did is put a lot of time/effort into R&D (not hard since he's an engineer) and tried to stay a step ahead of the Chicoms.

But this is a tough fight, so good luck to you!


30 posted on 08/20/2006 6:24:23 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Captain Rhino

I agree on the price difference. Sometimes it makes no sense. What I do know from experience is that I pay rep's to keep my products on shelves and for some companies all you need is the right contacts. Some want us to double our retail price so they can make more money and with the right hand shake and money under the table this does happen. I don't play the game and keep all my business above board. It takes longer but i sleep better. As in an earlier post I mentioned automation being the key to US business cost cutting. This is used in most of our industries so the price differences are simple gouging on the part of certain distributors.Often these distributors have an exclusive on that brand. Long story but another instance where corrupt people seem to congregate.


31 posted on 08/20/2006 6:29:32 AM PDT by liberty or death
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To: winodog

No, why?


32 posted on 08/20/2006 6:31:45 AM PDT by liberty or death
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To: Marechal

Due to the little stump of a dictator in NK (and his impending nuke test), china will soon face a Nuclear S. Korea, Japan, and Taiwan. Enjoy those domestic problems you little yellow commie ba$tards!

LLS


33 posted on 08/20/2006 6:33:42 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: All

Thanks all for the discussion. I'm "Gone Fishing".


34 posted on 08/20/2006 6:34:24 AM PDT by liberty or death
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To: liberty or death

Garlands is the name of a fishing lure company in AZ that is famous around the world for some bass lure they came up with years ago. They still pour the molds and make everything by hand. Including packaging small lures and tackle. Its not far from me and my friend owns it.


35 posted on 08/20/2006 6:38:31 AM PDT by winodog (Who will stop Bubba and the Beast in 08?)
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To: liberty or death

http://www.canyon-plastics.com/


36 posted on 08/20/2006 6:40:07 AM PDT by winodog (Who will stop Bubba and the Beast in 08?)
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To: Marechal
Well, at least he politely "asked"...

/sarc
37 posted on 08/20/2006 6:57:37 AM PDT by KillTime (Democracies that can't distinguish between good and evil or deny any difference shall surely perish.)
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To: Triggerhippie

I guess, as a good capitalist, you would have preferred selling produce to the British in 1776 for good silver, to selling produce to American toops for continental paper.

While we're on the subject of silver dollars, would you make thirty pieces of silver.......


There's a limit to the benefits of pure economic gain, even in a capitalist system.

Sending your dollars overseas to help arm a dangerous enemy is one of them.


38 posted on 08/20/2006 7:27:02 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Marechal
This should be our response.


39 posted on 08/20/2006 10:55:43 AM PDT by Tamar1973 (Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.)
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To: CheyennePress

My figure is from among the wealthy and powerful elites in the coastal regions like Shanghai or Guangdong. It excludes ethnic minorities, the less well off, and rural populations so this is why it is much lower than the one you have, which is for all China.


40 posted on 08/20/2006 12:04:39 PM PDT by NZerFromHK (The languages may be dialects, but America is different from the Anglo world due to US Founding.)
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