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Liberal 'base' emboldens Republicans
Daily News ^ | Aug. 19, 2006 | Paul Kujawsky

Posted on 08/20/2006 3:17:03 PM PDT by FairOpinion

IN the 1960s, my sister was part of the Free Speech Movement at Berkeley. She was arrested in a civil rights sit-in. Naturally, she was a lifelong Democrat.

Today, she is a “9-11 Republican.” She is not alone.

My sister is no less committed to civil rights than before. But she believes that not being murdered by Islamist terrorists is also an important civil right. She is not sure that the Democratic Party completely agrees with her.

For 9-11 Republicans, this is the most significant political issue. The GOP “gets it,” while the Democratic Party doesn't.

Many recent former Democrats are astonished and a bit embarrassed to see where they have landed politically. The rest of the Republican program may leave them cold. They may have doubts about Bush's handling of the war, treatment of prisoners and everything else. But unless and until the Democratic Party fixes its national-security problem, my sister and others like her will not vote Democratic in November's congressional races, nor in the 2008 presidential contest.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006election; 911republicans; bushdemocrats; election2006; elections; gwot; homelanddefense; issues; lostdems; nationalsecurity; securitymoms; september12era; waronterror; wot
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Note that the writer is a Democrat.

"Paul Kujawsky is a member of the California Democratic Party Central Committee."

The excerpt is the front part of the article, then he proceeds to explain that the Dems need to adopt a platform:

"While not the only issue facing America, this war is the single most important issue of our generation.

We must unequivocally win this war, however long it takes. "

This is EXACTLY the Republican platform. The Dems must do at least a "me too", but they are doing exactly the opposite, doing everything they can to hinder us in our pursuit of the War on Terror.

Even some of hte Dems are starting to see this and that the American people will vote to LIVE, which means vote for Republicans, because the Dem policies will kill us all.

1 posted on 08/20/2006 3:17:05 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

Was the article written before W negotiated a cease fire between Israel and Hezbullah with France?


2 posted on 08/20/2006 3:22:43 PM PDT by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20, Eze 22:26)
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To: FairOpinion

I believe that more and more Democrats will be expressing these same sentiments.

With the Dem moonbats kicking Joe Lieberman out of the party, they also kicked the rest of the moderate Dems out with him.


3 posted on 08/20/2006 3:25:35 PM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: FairOpinion
This is a great article. Thanks for posting it. It outlines one of the things that baffles me the most about Democrats - their revisionist history. It is necessary to accommodate the "Bush Derangement Syndrome".
4 posted on 08/20/2006 3:26:53 PM PDT by srmorton (Choose Life!)
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To: kerryusama04

French and living up to their word rarely collide in the same sentance.


5 posted on 08/20/2006 3:28:02 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Don't you think it's interesting how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather?)
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To: kerryusama04
Was the article written before W negotiated a cease fire between Israel and Hezbullah with France?

It's holding up -- France hasn't fired on either.

6 posted on 08/20/2006 3:29:17 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (I LIKE you! When I am Ruler of Earth, yours will be a quick and painless death)
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To: FairOpinion

The Bush haters would rather see us living as Dhimmis than admit that he is right about ANYTHING concerning the War on Terror.


7 posted on 08/20/2006 3:30:54 PM PDT by Democratshavenobrains
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To: freedumb2003

---She is not sure that the Democratic Party completely agrees with her. ---
LOL, you just cant make-up this stuff folks. lol


8 posted on 08/20/2006 3:31:55 PM PDT by Jazzman1
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To: Democratshavenobrains

They don't just hate Bush, he is simply the most visible symbol of what they hate most: westerm civilization


9 posted on 08/20/2006 3:32:01 PM PDT by GeronL (flogerloon.blogspot.com -------------> Rise of the Hate Party)
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To: Democratshavenobrains
Worth repeating many, many times, D.

"The Bush haters would rather see us living as Dhimmis than admit that he is right about ANYTHING concerning the War on Terror islam."

There; now it's correct.

10 posted on 08/20/2006 3:34:23 PM PDT by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage. Try it!)
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To: GeronL

It's all about political power and their lack of it. There's nothing more amusing than watching Dem operatives recite their talking points with that look that says even they don't believe what they're saying.


11 posted on 08/20/2006 3:37:28 PM PDT by ShandaLear (So there!)
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To: srmorton
The mainstream Democrat establishment is insincere. They will whip up BDS in order to advance their aims for power. Once in power they will co-opt the war and tranform themselves to moderate hawks to lock in their positions.

Make no mistake, Dems will claim the mantle of nabbing bin Laden once in power and will wave the war flag high.

12 posted on 08/20/2006 3:39:55 PM PDT by zarf
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To: FairOpinion

This is the big variable the MSM is leaving out in its prognosticating about the November elections. And Dems. rejoicing over a liberal judge halting NSA wiretaps, the very week it was discovered they helped to unravel the London airline plots, will only reinforce in voters' minds that the Democratic party is more anti-Bush than they are anti-terrorist. They'll gain little ground in November as a result.


13 posted on 08/20/2006 3:40:35 PM PDT by MikeA (Not voting out of anger in November is a vote for Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House)
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To: FairOpinion

Another concept the Democrats need to wrap their minds around is the fact that United States citizens are not going to vote for politicians who bet against the home team.


14 posted on 08/20/2006 3:42:34 PM PDT by abclily
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To: butternut_squash_bisque

We are not at war with Islam, only the radical murdering terrorists, who use Islam as an excuse. Just the way the Nazis and communists used their ideology as an excuse to murder and subjugate people, the terrorists are trying to justify their subhuman actions with Islam.

Indonesia has a large Muslim population and most of them are very peaceful.


15 posted on 08/20/2006 3:43:49 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion
A free press, an independent judiciary and a bureaucracy purged of corruption are among the preconditions of a successful transition to genuine democracy.

I'd like all that right here, too.

16 posted on 08/20/2006 3:44:48 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: FairOpinion

Islam does justify the subhuman actions of the terrorists.


17 posted on 08/20/2006 3:50:21 PM PDT by abclily
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To: FairOpinion

The author is completely correct and has next to no chance of seeing what he wants to have happen occur. Which is a shame.


18 posted on 08/20/2006 3:50:50 PM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian ("Don't take life so seriously. You'll never get out of it alive." -- Bugs Bunny)
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To: FairOpinion

Liberal base = Al-queda sympathizers


19 posted on 08/20/2006 3:52:38 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: FairOpinion
"Just the way the Nazis and communists used their ideology as an excuse to murder and subjugate people, the terrorists are trying to justify their subhuman actions with Islam."

You might want to rethink this analogy. Are we to assume that Nazism and communism would be perfectly acceptable to you, absent murder and subjugation?
20 posted on 08/20/2006 3:52:55 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: FairOpinion
Democrats no longer see the democrats as champions of middle-class aspirations and nothing matters more right now than safety and the survival of our country. The democratic party is the party of pornography, crime, taxes and appeasement.
21 posted on 08/20/2006 3:59:16 PM PDT by FreeRep
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To: RegulatorCountry
Are you proposing that we raid all communes and force them to live an individual life style?
22 posted on 08/20/2006 4:02:55 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (A propensity to hope and joy is real riches; one to fear and sorrow, real poverty)
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To: FairOpinion

Wrong. islam is the enemy of Western Civilization.

http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/15227

You can deny that all you want, F. History will show that as fact in coming years. The so-called radicals are merely the visible tip of the iceberg. So-called 'peaceful muslims' are simply afraid to stand-up and voice their opinion. Their trash manual of death, the unholy koran/curan or whatever, clearly states what the horror of islam, is really all about.

If you're unable to identify the enemy, you're going to lose this war.

Nazism and communism theology use murder and subjugation as routine means of population control; history validates that fact.

Indonesia is a sewer and will explode once the murderous muslim-islamic-arabs gain complete control and begin exercising their murderous and subjugational controls over the entire population. Watch for it. Pol Pot's 'killing fields' will pale in comparison to what's coming.


23 posted on 08/20/2006 4:04:12 PM PDT by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage. Try it!)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

As opposed to what we have now, which is raiding all individuals, and forcing them to live a communal lifestyle? Why, yes, of course I am, lol.


24 posted on 08/20/2006 4:07:08 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: FairOpinion

Essentially he is saying that Democrats need to flap their jaws and do nothing.


25 posted on 08/20/2006 4:09:46 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (The Internet is the samizdat of liberty..)
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To: FairOpinion

26 posted on 08/20/2006 4:13:17 PM PDT by Gritty (Liberals aren't having so much fun now that the rabbit has the gun. - Ann Coulter)
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To: RegulatorCountry

So you raid all individuals and force them to live a communal lifestyle?


27 posted on 08/20/2006 4:15:32 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (A propensity to hope and joy is real riches; one to fear and sorrow, real poverty)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

"So you raid all individuals and force them to live a communal lifestyle?"

If a group of people want to freely associate and live a communal life, without reaching into my pocket to do so, that is perfectly acceptable to me, so long as I am not forced to participate.


28 posted on 08/20/2006 4:25:48 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: A.Hun
With the Dem moonbats kicking Joe Lieberman out of the party, they also kicked the rest of the moderate Dems out with him.

We can only hope and pray. Ironically, the nation's future may depend on the integrity of disaffected 'rats, while disaffected pubbies stay home in a snit.

29 posted on 08/20/2006 4:31:12 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: RegulatorCountry
Then could we say that communism is perfectly acceptable to you, absent murder and subjugation?

In other words as long as they don't force people in it or force people to stay in it again their will then you accept it?

30 posted on 08/20/2006 4:32:03 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (A propensity to hope and joy is real riches; one to fear and sorrow, real poverty)
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>>>>After all, the Democratic Party as a whole is more centrist than its leftist activists. For example, a 2005 Penn, Schoen and Berland poll shows that only 27 percent of registered Democrats describe themselves as “liberal,” while almost twice as many — 53 percent — consider themselves “moderate.” (The remainder are “conservative.”) These centrist folks, the weight of the party, need to become its dominant voice again.

53% of Dems are centrists. I don't buy that junk. Just look at how many votes Kerry received in 2004. Polls that ask questions about ones self-professed political ideology are ususally well off the mark. I'd say the vast majority of Democrats are liberal, with at least a 1/4 being ultra liberal. I'd be surprised if 10% of Dems fall into the catagory of strict conservative standards. 5% sounds more reasonable.

31 posted on 08/20/2006 4:35:03 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't support amnesty and conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Communism is not perfectly acceptable to ME. If other people wish to freely associate and live a communal life, without forcing me to participate, either personally or monetarily, then that is their choice and it does not affect me. But, of course, Communism in practice is the antithesis of free association, isn't it?

Now, on to Nazism. How does your logic exercise hold up in this instance?


32 posted on 08/20/2006 4:37:07 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: butternut_squash_bisque
If you're unable to identify the enemy, you're going to lose this war

This is an insight that needs to be announced loudly and clearly and repeatedly. To take it a step further, if you are politically afraid to name the enemy publicly, even if you know who it is, you stand to lose this war. The people won't support a war against an abstraction (as George Bush is learning, belatedly and to his dismay.)

33 posted on 08/20/2006 4:39:45 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: FairOpinion
We are not at war with Islam, only the radical murdering terrorists,

Those members of Islam who remain silent in their opposition are in essence implying their support of those who actually do the killing.

You are giving far too much credit to too many who are guilty in some forms.

34 posted on 08/20/2006 4:41:42 PM PDT by Michael.SF.
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To: RegulatorCountry
Perfectly.

If someone wants to not associate with people of other ethnic backgrounds that is his or her business. If they want to marry only with in a very small gene pool I will not force them to do otherwise.

How would their doing that effect you?

35 posted on 08/20/2006 4:44:37 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (A propensity to hope and joy is real riches; one to fear and sorrow, real poverty)
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To: Gritty

Great cartoon, G! Good catch!!


36 posted on 08/20/2006 4:49:56 PM PDT by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage. Try it!)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

"How would their doing that effect you?"

Now we're getting somewhere. The notion that murder and subjugation, in Nazism and Communism, were somehow the purview of an isolated set of fanatics is the falsehood in the original analogy. Murder and subjugation, when directed at me, will affect me greatly, perhaps to the point that there would be no "me" to engage in tit-for-tat rationalizations on internet message boards.

And now, let's go full circle, back to Islam, shall we?


37 posted on 08/20/2006 4:51:43 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: aflaak

ping


38 posted on 08/20/2006 4:53:36 PM PDT by r-q-tek86 (** Tagline Removed By Admin Moderator **)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Murder and subjugation, when directed at me, will affect me greatly,

Granted but we are talking absent those things.

And yes there are some groups that absent those things do follow those philosphies.

How do they effect you?

39 posted on 08/20/2006 4:55:57 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (A propensity to hope and joy is real riches; one to fear and sorrow, real poverty)
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To: All
What republicans in secure states should do is adopt a republican candidate in a vulnerable state and support the candidate in some way whether it's posting banners in their sigs, posting in non-republican forums or giving financial support.

Here in Maine our ""republican"" senator (yes she deserves 2 sets of quotation marks) is up for re-election but is secure so Im focusing on the governor race and also supporting the candidate running against Tom Allen.

But if your state is secure this election year there are other republican candidates in other states that could use your support.

ELECTION 2006 LINKS

40 posted on 08/20/2006 5:00:45 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

"Granted but we are talking absent those things."

This constitutes a logical fallacy concerning Islam. Subjugation or murder ... why does this sound so familiar in the context of Muslim belief? Could it be that, since the very definition of "Islam" is "submission," and that since the Koran admonishes believers to kill all nonbelievers, in more than just a few instances, that subjugation or murder is the foundation of the religion, as it relates to the world outside of Islam, referred to as "Dar es Harb" or the world of war? What Muslim groups do not follow these "philosophies?" For that matter, what Nazi groups do not?


41 posted on 08/20/2006 5:05:58 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: FairOpinion

I know some life long democrats who are very unhappy with the democrat party. They are all socially moderate also, so a big tent philosophy would appeal to them.


42 posted on 08/20/2006 5:16:25 PM PDT by tkathy (Einstein: Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Look up some Eugenics groups for your answers on Nazi's.

What Muslim groups do not follow these "philosophies?"

Just off the top of my head the Druze are a sect of Islam that does not.

43 posted on 08/20/2006 5:20:24 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (A propensity to hope and joy is real riches; one to fear and sorrow, real poverty)
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To: FairOpinion
Unfortunately, many here on FR are willing to abandon the Republicans to "teach them a lesson" and put Democrats in charge of national security.

Big mistake.

44 posted on 08/20/2006 5:21:17 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of "dependence on government"!)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Druze: Religious community generally considered to be Muslim but whose practices also contain elements of Christianity and paganism.


45 posted on 08/20/2006 5:24:54 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: FairOpinion
A Democratic Party that took seriously the war against Islamism would do a better job of defeating it than the current administration. Thats because Republicans wouldn't fight you tooth and nail.
46 posted on 08/20/2006 5:42:29 PM PDT by 03A3
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To: RegulatorCountry
That would be them.
47 posted on 08/20/2006 5:53:07 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (A propensity to hope and joy is real riches; one to fear and sorrow, real poverty)
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To: FairOpinion

Democrats: The Party of 'Cut N Paste'. (From the Republican Playbook).


48 posted on 08/20/2006 6:34:22 PM PDT by sportutegrl (A person is a person, no matter how small. (Dr. Seuss))
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To: FairOpinion
Gee, I wonder if the DUcks will be posting this article over there?...lol.

They are the very ones that the author is saying are too stupid to direct the RAT party platform.

Every chance I get, I try to direct moderate Dem's to go to the DUck room and read the twaddle they spew, and let them know that is who/what is in charge of the RAT party now.

Given time, the DUcks will erode the RAT party to under 30%, and the more they lose, the nuttier they get...lol.
49 posted on 08/20/2006 6:37:56 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Ronald Reagan didn't turn me into a Republican....Jimmy Carter did that!!)
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To: FairOpinion
Funny how some of the RINO types are becoming the p.c. Gestapo and try silencing dissent from the religious conservatives or anyone else that does not bend their knee in acquiescence...
50 posted on 08/20/2006 6:38:20 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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