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Iraq war not linked to terror plot, says Clinton
Guardian Unlimited ^ | Wednesday August 16, 2006

Posted on 08/21/2006 6:38:56 AM PDT by presidio9

Bill Clinton today dismissed suggestions of a link between the alleged airline bomb plot and the invasion of Iraq. The former US president said that although the situation in Iraq had not improved national security, the threat to countries such as the UK and the US predated the September 11 attacks on New York and Washington.

In an interview with BBC Radio 4's Today programme, Mr Clinton also said he did not think military intervention in Afghanistan had put Britons at higher risk.

"On the question of Iraq, I don't think it's improved our national security, but I don't think that Iraq has had any impact one way or the other on Sunni-inspired terrorist operations, as it appears this one was that was recently thwarted," he said. "There was a commitment there to attack the west before 9/11, and the fact that we made it more difficult for them to operate in a centralised fashion I think, on balance, was positive."

Mr Clinton said that if he had any criticism of the operation in Afghanistan, it was that too few troops had been sent to the country.

"I don't think that going into Afghanistan to depose the Taliban and to hunt for Mr [Osama] bin Laden and Mr [Ayman] al-Zawahiri put the British at higher risk," he said.

"I think if anything, the fact that we have had intense co-operation between intelligence and law enforcement officials all over the world ... has made the world less dangerous.

"There's no question that al-Qaida continues to inspire terrorist operations and continues to be involved in them. If anything, we should have put more troops into Afghanistan."

Mr Clinton's comments closely echoed the line taken by Tony Blair's government.

Yesterday, the

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: globaljihad; impeachedx42; londonairlineplot; loungelizard

1 posted on 08/21/2006 6:38:57 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9

Continuing to move HRC's fat ass to the "moderate center"...


2 posted on 08/21/2006 6:40:29 AM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: presidio9
Like Clinton knows.

He didn't pursue the WoT seriously and 3,000 people paid with their lives on 9/11.

3 posted on 08/21/2006 6:42:24 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: presidio9
"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow." -- Bill Clinton in 1998

" . . . It is incontestable that on the day I left office, there were unaccounted for stocks of biological and chemical weapons. We might have destroyed them in '98. We tried to, but we sure as heck didn't know it because we never got to go back there." Bill Clinton,July 2003

4 posted on 08/21/2006 6:45:00 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid."- Dwight Eisenhower)
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To: Gay State Conservative

BTTT


5 posted on 08/21/2006 6:50:22 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: presidio9

What? No interns to scrrrrrrew? WGF!


6 posted on 08/21/2006 6:50:45 AM PDT by Leo Carpathian (ffffFReeeePeee!)
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To: Darkwolf377

How about the 93 WTC Bombing?


7 posted on 08/21/2006 6:52:27 AM PDT by Milligan
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To: Gay State Conservative

If the Defeatocrats pursue this line of reasoning, when the first nuclear device goes off in this country, and it's only a matter of time, whom do we blame?

For my money, Iran needs to be told that whatever blows up here, something will blowup there.

It's the only thing the Islamic world understands.


8 posted on 08/21/2006 6:58:11 AM PDT by kjo
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To: SoFloFreeper

"He didn't pursue the WoT seriously and 3,000 people paid with their lives on 9/11."

Thank you!

and that needs to be repeated DAILY!

If Klintoon had spent more time capturing UBL WHEN HE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY...THREE FRIGGIN TIMES and fighting the WOT instead of getting BJ's in the Oval Office we wouldn't be in the mess we're in today!!!


9 posted on 08/21/2006 6:58:31 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: presidio9
From the following link:

The Iraq Liberation Act

You signed it, Bubba.

10 posted on 08/21/2006 6:59:20 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Milligan
How about the 93 WTC Bombing?

Yep
Because the bombs didn't work as planned and loss of life was minimal their was no national outrage

Clear case of emotional thinking versus logic
11 posted on 08/21/2006 7:00:31 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: presidio9
Dear EX-President Clinton.
Haven't you noticed? We have taken the fight to the Islamo-fascists.
12 posted on 08/21/2006 7:01:51 AM PDT by syriacus (Worried about attacks from Iran or Korea? Daschle wanted to scuttle our missile defense program)
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To: presidio9

And why would BlowJobBilly now be interested in our nations security? He didn't give a rat's rear end about it during the 8 years he was soiling the office of president.


13 posted on 08/21/2006 7:03:12 AM PDT by newcthem (Brought to you by the INFIDEL PARTY)
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To: mewzilla
The Iraq Liberation Act You signed it, Bubba.

And we'd be doing better in Iraq if Clinton's party didn't continually trash our efforts there, thus giving hope to the enemy.

14 posted on 08/21/2006 7:03:29 AM PDT by syriacus (Worried about attacks from Iran or Korea? Daschle wanted to scuttle our missile defense program)
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To: presidio9

Coming from an impeached rapist, who was offered Osama Bin Laden and turned him down because he was too busy indoctrinating interns.


15 posted on 08/21/2006 7:07:25 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Former SAC Trained Killer)
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To: All; presidio9


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NEVER FORGET


BILL & HILLARY CLINTON,

who were both on the side of our terrorist enemy Communist North Vietnam during the Vietnam War,

refused 3 free offers from the Sudan during the 1990's to bring us our No. 1 terrorist enemy OSAMA bin LADEN on a silver platter...

...before he could hit us real hard here at home after they had left the White House.



Signed:.."ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer
Veteran-1st Major Battles of the Vietnam War, 1965-66

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_collection.htm
(Pictures)


NEVER FORGET

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16 posted on 08/21/2006 7:13:16 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.comr)
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To: syriacus
Dear EX-President Clinton. Haven't you noticed? We have taken the fight to the Islamo-fascists.

Iraqi regime led by Saddam Hussein was secularist, westernizing and semi-socialist. This was the reason why Ronald Reagan supported Saddam Hussein. Removal of Iraqi regime opened way for radical Islamists.

Just to give you a hint, check the country origin of the WTC bombers.

17 posted on 08/21/2006 7:21:37 AM PDT by A. Pole (" There is no other god but Free Market, and Adam Smith is his prophet ! Bazaar Akbar! ")
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To: presidio9

Really, it's hard to say that the fruits of the Iraq invasion have been reaped, since the result has not yet been decided. One way or another, the issue will be settled, sooner or later. Things will improve for our security if a stable entity, friendly with the West, emerges. I suppose that has always been Bush's intent, though he is not very good at making that clear.
A worse alternative is what could happen if we cut and run; we could get a radical Shiite state, friendly with Iran.

In any case, Saddam's regime always posed a clear danger to the Middle East and the world, taking him out should have been a no brainer. The only benefit I see to having left him in power was the counterpoint he posed to Iran, which now has more freedom to focus its designs elsewhere.


18 posted on 08/21/2006 7:26:25 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Don't mix alcopops and ufo's)
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To: syriacus
The 9/11 Connection What Salman Pak could reveal

Oh, Bubba....

19 posted on 08/21/2006 7:28:22 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Darkwolf377

Continuing to move HRC's fat ass to the "moderate center"...




Yes, this is how the MSM helps her win. There will be thousands of these stories before Nov. 2008.


20 posted on 08/21/2006 7:32:47 AM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: A. Pole

So much BS...so little desire to rehash it.


21 posted on 08/21/2006 7:34:55 AM PDT by mngalt (In a sane world the answer to energy shortages would be more electricity and oil.)
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To: presidio9

Well, if Clinton says so ...


22 posted on 08/21/2006 8:02:09 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: presidio9

Typical Bill Clinton, trying to be on all sides and manages to be wrong all the way around. Iraq IS the War on Terror, anyone tells you different is either a fool or a liar.


23 posted on 08/21/2006 8:05:08 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (History shows us that if you are not willing to fight, you better be prepared to die)
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To: presidio9

24 posted on 08/21/2006 8:15:02 AM PDT by Gritty (The Clintons are the hemorrhoids on the body politic - Norman Liebmann)
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To: A. Pole
More utter nonsense from the rabid Neo Isolationists. I will just ignore the utterly nonsensical claims about Saddam. Anyone with even a glimmer of knowledge knows those claims are utter nonsense.

Got to love the way the DO Nothings try to posture as tough guys by pretending they would have committed the force elsewhere. The fact of the matter is the Neo Isolationists who of NEVER done anything but piss and moan. They merely invent some reason other place we should be fighting to avoid admitting they actually would rather we DO nothing. Real simple fact keeps escaping them. We had the political, moral, legal and military consensus to take out Iraq. We HAD no such consensus for an attack against any other of the Neo Isolationists make believe foes. Also, the Neo Isolationists dogma flunks basic Military strategy as well.

You still cling to your mistaken emotion based feelings. Basic strategy lesson for you.. You do NOT leave a foe in the field unfought and commit your force to another major fight against another foe. Saddam had to go. We could not leave him hanging on our flank and commit significant military forces to another battle. Saddam was the most immediate problem. EVERN if Al Gore had won in 2000 and 09-01 happened, we would be doing the EXACT same thing. All the Leftist Democrat Talking Points are so much nonsense. There was no alternative but to take out Iraq

25 posted on 08/21/2006 8:17:55 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (History shows us that if you are not willing to fight, you better be prepared to die)
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To: Chi-townChief

I just heard President Bush say the same thing in his press conference.


26 posted on 08/21/2006 8:19:44 AM PDT by retMD
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To: A. Pole
Reagan supported Saddam in fighting Iran. He stopped fighting them. Radical Islamists existed decades before 2003. Now they are concentrating on getting us out of Iraq and foiling our plans there. This is preferable to having them everywhere else.

Not only that but Saddam has his hand in several terrorist acts and plots against the US including the WTC1, attempts against exPresident Bush's life, and, from all appearances, the Oklahoma City bombing.

Your "hint" only leads to the conclusion that you are deliberately distorting what happened. OBL is no fool and recruited people he knew would have no problem getting into the US. Saudis were privileged because there was no fear of them becoming illegal aliens. Their special travel arrangements made Saudis ideal for this purpose.

Now you would not be DELIBERATELY distorting these issues now would you? It is hard to believe anyone could get so much wrong by accident.
27 posted on 08/21/2006 8:28:38 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: MNJohnnie
More utter nonsense from the rabid Neo Isolationists. I will just ignore the utterly nonsensical claims about Saddam. Anyone with even a glimmer of knowledge knows those claims are utter nonsense.

Ronald Reagan was not an isolationist when he supported Saddam Hussein.


28 posted on 08/21/2006 8:43:32 AM PDT by A. Pole (" There is no other god but Free Market, and Adam Smith is his prophet ! Bazaar Akbar! ")
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To: A. Pole; MNJohnnie
Reagan supported Iraq against the radical Islamic regime that kidnapped our embassy personnel for 444 days.

Not a friend; the enemy of our enemy. Basic political lesson there.

Johnnie, you're right about the isolationists. There's always somebody else they SAY we ought to have fought first - Iran, N Korea, Syria - but as the Red Queen said to Alice, it's "jam every other day, but never jam today."

29 posted on 08/21/2006 9:31:23 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother
Reagan supported Iraq against the radical Islamic regime that kidnapped our embassy personnel for 444 days. Not a friend; the enemy of our enemy. Basic political lesson there.

Fine, so now the main enemy of Iranian regime is removed and Iran is becoming the main regional power. Is it another "basic political lesson"?

About "enemy of our enemy", it was Iran who helped America to win in Afghanistan as it was Iran/Russia allied Northern Alliance which did the key part of the fighting against Taleban. Is the removal of Saddam Hussein a secret reward to Iran?

30 posted on 08/21/2006 9:42:27 AM PDT by A. Pole (" There is no other god but Free Market, and Adam Smith is his prophet ! Bazaar Akbar! ")
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To: mewzilla
The 9/11 Connection What Salman Pak could reveal

Bookmarked. Thanks.

31 posted on 08/21/2006 9:50:10 AM PDT by syriacus (Worried about attacks from Iran or Korea? Daschle wanted to scuttle our missile defense program)
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To: A. Pole
You know about as much as I do about the machinations of the states.

At some point you cannot continue to second-guess the government during wartime, or we will lose it all.

Would you have questioned the invasion of Italy in WWII? After all, Mussolini was a mere puppet who had never attacked the United States . . . Germany and Japan were our "real" enemies. And, of course, Germany had never attacked the U.S. either . . .

32 posted on 08/21/2006 9:51:01 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: retMD

I should have hit the 'sarcasm on' button for that one.


33 posted on 08/21/2006 10:00:04 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: newcthem
And why would BlowJobBilly now be interested in our nations security? He didn't give a rat's rear end about it during the 8 years he was soiling the office of president.

The democrats are saying "we are no safer" in the hopes that if we are attacked before the election they can scream..."we told you so."

34 posted on 08/21/2006 1:38:09 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: presidio9
Bill Clinton today dismissed suggestions of a link between the alleged airline bomb plot and the invasion of Iraq

..he couldn't put a link between a cigar and a blue dress either...it's called selective memory...hildebeast has it too....but the reminders will be up front over the next two years...and in her own words

35 posted on 08/21/2006 2:37:06 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF...68-73,,..."never store a threat you should have eliminated")
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To: presidio9
In an interview with BBC Radio 4's Today programme

...he can't find a legacy here, so he's got to try over there. Wanna bet the questions were pre-screened? ( remembering the eyes rolling when the cigar was mentioned in testimony......LOL)

36 posted on 08/21/2006 2:47:55 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF...68-73,,..."never store a threat you should have eliminated")
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