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Nekama's Troll Hammer (LGF classic comment on the Israel/Arab situation)
Little Green Footballs ^ | 08-17-03 | Nekama

Posted on 08/22/2006 2:37:33 PM PDT by SeafoodGumbo

1. Are you aware that the Disputed Territories never belonged to the “Palestinians” and only came into Israeli possession as a result of the 1967 six day war in which Egypt, Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon all massed forces at Israel’s border in order to “push the Jews into the sea”. The Arabs lost and Israel took control of the land. Do you agree that if the Koranimals don’t want to lose territory to Israel, then they shouldn’t start wars? Do you agree that there is justice that Israel, who as far back as 1948 has always sought peace with her far larger neighbors, should live in prosperity - making the desert bloom - while the residents of 19 adjacent Arab countries who are blessed with far more land as well as oil wealth live in their own feces?

2. Did you know that the “Palestinians” could have had their own country as far back as 1948 had they accepted the UN sponsored partition plan which gave Israel AND the Palestinians a countries of their own on land which Jews had lived on for thousands of years before Mohammed ever had a wet dream about virgins? The Arabs rejected the UN offer and went to war with the infant Israeli nation. The Arabs lost and have been whining about it ever since. Do you agree this is like a murderer who kills his parents and asks for special treatment since he is now an orphan?

3. Can you tell us ANY Arab country which offers Jews the right to be citizens, vote, own property, businesses, be a part of the government or have ANY of the rights which Israeli Arabs enjoy? Any Arab country which gives those rights to Christians? How about to other Arabs? Wouldn’t you just LOVE to be a citizen of Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Iran, or Syria?

4. Since as many Jews (approximately 850,000) were kicked out of Arab countries as were Arabs who left present day Israel (despite being literally begged to stay), why should Arabs be permitted to return to Israel if Jews aren’t allowed to set foot in Arab countries? Can you explain why Arabs can worship freely in Israel but Jews would certainly be hung from street lamps after having their intestines devoured by an Arab mob if they so much as entered an Arab country?

5. Israel resettled and absorbed all of the Jews from Arab countries who wished to become Israelis. Why haven’t any Arab countries offered to resettle Arabs who were displaced from Israel, leaving them to rot for 60 years in squalid refugee camps? And why are those refugee camps still there? Could it be that the billions of dollars that the UNWRA has sent there goes to terrorist groups like Hamas, Islamic Jihad, El Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, or Hezbollah? How did Yassir Arafat achieve his $300 million in wealth? Why aren’t these funds distributed for humanitarian use?

6. Did you know that the Arabs in the disputed territories (conquered by Israel in the 1967 war which was started by Arabs) and who are not Israelis already have two countries right now? And that they are called Egypt and Jordan?

7. If your complaint is about the security fence which Israel is finally building in the Disputed Territories, are you aware that it is built solely to keep the “brave” Arab terrorists out so that they can no longer self detonate on busses, in dining halls or pizzerias and kill Jewish grandmothers and schoolchildren? Why are the Arabs so brave when they target unarmed civilians but even when they outnumber their opponents they get their sandy asses kicked all the way to Mecca when they are faced with Jewish soldiers? Why do Arab soldiers make the French look like super heroes?

8. Please explain why you are so concerned about Arabs, who possess 99% of the land in this region and are in control of the world’s greatest natural resource, which literally flows out of the ground? Can’t their brother muslims offer some of the surplus land and nature’s riches to the “Palestinians”? Or is it true that Arabs are willing to die right down to the last “Palestinian”?

9. Why do you not exhibit the same level of concern for say, people in Saudi Arabia who are beheaded, subject to amputation, stoning, honor killing etc.? What about women who are denied any semblance of basic civil rights, including the right not to be treated as property for the entertainment and abuse of her father, brothers, or husbands? What about the Muslims in Sudan and Egypt who are still enslaved, or the women there whose genitalia are barbarically cut off? How about the oppression of Shiites by Sunnis, the gassing of the Kurds by Iraq, or the massacre of “Palestinians” by Jordan (Black September)? Why doesn’t this concern you?

10. Did you ever stop to wonder how much better off everyone in the region would be if Arabs stopped trying to kill Jews and destroy Israel? What would happen if the Israelis gave up their weapons and disarmed? Would they live to see the next day? But what would happen if the Arabs completely disarmed? You know the answer: They would all be AT PEACE! And if there is no war to rile them up, the Arabs would be forced to look at their own repressive, pre-medieval societies. Why would they want to do that when there are Jews to kill?

11. Have you heard “People who define themselves primarily by what they hate, rather than who they love, are doomed to failure and misery”? Can you see the parallels to the Arabs, who are blessed with land and oil, but still gladly train their children to kill themselves in order to kill Jews? Have you heard Golda Meir’s words to the effect of “There will be peace when the Arabs love their children more than they hate ours”? Why do the Arabs hate so much?


TOPICS: Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: arab; israel; lgf; muslim
This is the classic reply of Nekama, a LGF poster, to a uninformed troll. He has lots of good links at the bottom of his comment.
1 posted on 08/22/2006 2:37:35 PM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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To: SeafoodGumbo

"Why do Arab soldiers make the French look like super heroes?"

Classic.


2 posted on 08/22/2006 2:41:53 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: SeafoodGumbo

100% true.
These points are overlooked and never brought up by the MSM in USA or the rest of the world


3 posted on 08/22/2006 2:42:14 PM PDT by KTM rider ( Support Our Troops Donate to Irey)
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To: SeafoodGumbo
All comments he makes are spot on. I am of an age to remember when Israelis were considered heroic (think the movie "Exodus" or the outrage over the Munich Olympics).

Of course, this was before the evil Peanut Man started equating the two cultures, and allowed the rise of Islamic Fascists. It's been down hill ever since.

4 posted on 08/22/2006 2:43:20 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: Miss Marple

bttt


5 posted on 08/22/2006 2:44:52 PM PDT by txhurl (If you are kind to the cruel, you will end up being cruel to the kind.)
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To: SeafoodGumbo
Why do Arab soldiers make the French look like super heroes?

That is classic.
6 posted on 08/22/2006 2:45:08 PM PDT by Thrusher ("...there is no peace without victory.")
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To: Jet Jaguar
You'd probably like this article (if you haven't already read it).

Why Arabs Lose Wars
7 posted on 08/22/2006 2:45:12 PM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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To: Miss Marple
One should not ignore the terrorism that the PLO engaged in before the Carter administration...

Of course, this was before the evil Peanut Man started equating the two cultures, and allowed the rise of Islamic Fascists. It's been down hill ever since.

8 posted on 08/22/2006 2:52:07 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Sophomore dies in kiln explosion? Oh My God! I just talked to her last week...)
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To: Miss Marple

And don't forget the Entebbe raid in the summer of 1976! (Of course, I was studying Hebrew at the time; the teacher was Israeli, and everyone else in the class was Jewish, so my own recollection may not be that of the "gentile" world -- but I don't think it's that far off!)


9 posted on 08/22/2006 2:52:52 PM PDT by maryz
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To: SeafoodGumbo
The Arabs lost and Israel took control of the land.

I can't imagine why

10 posted on 08/22/2006 2:53:48 PM PDT by South40 (It's Not Like They Didn't Warn Us!)
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To: SeafoodGumbo
This link should take you right to Nekama's post #19
11 posted on 08/22/2006 2:56:32 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Sophomore dies in kiln explosion? Oh My God! I just talked to her last week...)
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To: Ready4Freddy

Thanks, Ready4Freddy. I thought I had linked directly to the comment.


12 posted on 08/22/2006 3:01:14 PM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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To: SeafoodGumbo

Thanks for that post. I'm going to save it for future use...


...and we all know that it will definitely be needed.

:-(


13 posted on 08/22/2006 3:05:37 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (I criticize everyone... and then breath some radioactive fire and stomp on things.)
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To: gogogodzilla
...and we all know that it will definitely be needed.

As sure as the sun rising in the East.
14 posted on 08/22/2006 3:12:22 PM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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To: SeafoodGumbo

bump


15 posted on 08/22/2006 3:15:38 PM PDT by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: maryz
Oh, you are quite right! I remember cheering when Walter Cronkite announced it during the Bicentennial Coverage, as did my whole family!

As I said...1976 was the year the evil Peanut was elected, and it's been downhill ever since for the Israeli reputation...and all started and continued by HIM.

16 posted on 08/22/2006 3:17:12 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: SeafoodGumbo
Why do the Arabs hate so much?

They are an envious and paranoid culture that only teaches that Muslim Men are human and everyone else is either their property or a target for their warped personalities.
17 posted on 08/22/2006 3:31:42 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: SeafoodGumbo
Image hosted by Photobucket.com Why do Arab soldiers make the French look like super heroes?

that one left a mark...



18 posted on 08/22/2006 3:36:58 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: SeafoodGumbo
Have you heard Golda Meir’s words to the effect of “There will be peace when the Arabs love their children more than they hate ours”? Why do the Arabs hate so much?

Poor Golda did not understand.

They DO love their children. They love them so much that they want them to become shahids so they may enter into glory for Allah.

They hate so much not because they don't love their children, but because they are Moslems. Their prophet commands them to hate, and they will do so until they are converted to Christianity.

19 posted on 08/22/2006 3:50:54 PM PDT by Jim Noble (I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit - it's the only way to be sure.)
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To: Ready4Freddy
One should not ignore the terrorism that the PLO engaged in before the Carter administration...

And the proof that Arafat was directly involved in the murder of an American diplomat...

Mark

20 posted on 08/22/2006 3:57:36 PM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

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21 posted on 08/22/2006 4:37:31 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: SeafoodGumbo
Truth

Bump

22 posted on 08/22/2006 4:59:34 PM PDT by freedom9
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To: SeafoodGumbo

If this weren't so long I'd like it in bumper sticker form to put on my pickup. Awesome, cutting and to the freakin' point.


23 posted on 08/22/2006 5:00:11 PM PDT by manic4organic
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FRmail me to be added or removed from this Judaic/pro-Israel/Russian Jewry ping list.

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24 posted on 08/22/2006 5:49:06 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 135-139)
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To: Alouette

BTTT!


25 posted on 08/22/2006 6:48:52 PM PDT by white trash redneck (Everything I needed to know about Islam I learned on 9-11-01.)
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To: Alouette

Awesome! BTTT.


26 posted on 08/22/2006 7:04:09 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: Alouette

Great post, well worth bumping.


27 posted on 08/22/2006 7:12:41 PM PDT by agrace
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To: SeafoodGumbo

The craziness, nastiness and stupidity exhibited by the enemies of the Jewish people evidences the reality of demonic activity...


28 posted on 08/22/2006 7:16:55 PM PDT by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: SeafoodGumbo

I just finished reading this excellent assessment of the Arab military and it's mindset. Perhaps I am the proof positive for one of the authors main points, since the article is written in such a clear and concise manner. I am a woman, have never served in the military, and I feel that I have a good grasp on the author's assessment. The overall mindset of the Arab military thinking seems to be linear thinking vs. circular thinking. The Western philosophy vs. the Arab philosophy aka ISLAM.


29 posted on 08/22/2006 7:25:01 PM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: Chode

BTW, would you know what the word "catin" in French means? Unfortunately, I couldn't find it in my French-English dictionary. Perhaps it's too profane to be included? (LOL)


30 posted on 08/22/2006 7:33:54 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

politely, whore.


31 posted on 08/22/2006 7:37:08 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: MarkL
And the proof that Arafat was directly involved in the murder of an American diplomat...

American diplomats, plural.

32 posted on 08/22/2006 7:39:04 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: SeafoodGumbo
One problem in Nekama's piece: To the best of my recollection, Lebanon was not involved against Israel in the Six Days War in 1967. (Remember that was before Lebanon became a de facto Syrian satellite in the 70s.)
33 posted on 08/22/2006 7:42:17 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: SeafoodGumbo

Best part of the post...written in clear, plain English. No diplo-speak or PC garbage. If only all of our information passed this clearly to the masses.


34 posted on 08/22/2006 7:43:44 PM PDT by deputac (Drink Apple Juice; OJ Kills)
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To: SJackson

Thanks. That's what I guessed from the context.


35 posted on 08/22/2006 7:45:38 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: SeafoodGumbo
Bttt.

5.56mm

36 posted on 08/22/2006 9:22:51 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Salem; F15Eagle; ZULU; unionblue83; sergey1973; goldstategop; American in Israel; Pyro7480; ...

Ping!


37 posted on 08/23/2006 5:22:11 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Mid East Ceasefire = Israel ceases but her enemies fire)
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To: Convert from ECUSA
Excellent piece.

"Have you heard “People who define themselves primarily by what they hate, rather than who they love, are doomed to failure and misery”?

That may be true, but a corollary would be you can't defeat an ideology unless you have one of your own. Thanks to political correctness, we are in the process of losing our identity as products of Western Civilization and our appreciation for its relative merits.
38 posted on 08/23/2006 7:00:44 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU
" That may be true, but a corollary would be you can't defeat an ideology unless you have one of your own. Thanks to political correctness, we are in the process of losing our identity as products of Western Civilization and our appreciation for its relative merits."

Nailed it as usual, ZULU! Thanks!
40 posted on 08/23/2006 8:30:44 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Mid East Ceasefire = Israel ceases but her enemies fire)
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To: justiceseeker93
Image hosted by Photobucket.com roughly??? yeah... WHORE / Prostitute.
41 posted on 08/23/2006 2:56:54 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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