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LAST JAPANESE FIGHTER RECOVERED IN HAWAII
AOPA ePilot ^ | 18 August 2006

Posted on 08/22/2006 3:51:50 PM PDT by IonImplantGuru

The first pieces of the last remaining Japanese Zero fighter to be shot down over Hawaii on December 7, 1941, have reached the new Pacific Aviation Museum, now in its final fund-raising campaign and set to open December 7, 2006.

This aircraft had just finished strafing Bellows Field and Kaneohe Naval Air Station when ground fire punctured its belly fuel tank, preventing it from returning to the aircraft carrier Hiryu and forcing it to land on what Japanese planners thought was an abandoned island, Niihau.

However, the island's owners, the Robinson family, had heeded the warnings of a possible Japanese attack made by Gen. Billy Mitchell in 1924 and had plowed huge furrows in every conceivable landing site. Those furrows were still present and forced the Zero pilot to crash and be taken prisoner.

The remaining pieces of the Zero and the tractor that plowed the furrows will be on display at the museum on Ford Island, the military airfield where bullet holes from the attack still remain.


TOPICS: Extended News; Miscellaneous; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: fighter; milhist; museum; niihau; pearlharbor; wwii; zero
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The locals call the crash landing, capture of the Japanese pilot, subsequent escape, eventual recapture and execution the "Battle of Niihau."
1 posted on 08/22/2006 3:51:52 PM PDT by IonImplantGuru
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To: IonImplantGuru
the warnings of a possible Japanese attack made by Gen. Billy Mitchell in 1924

!!!!

2 posted on 08/22/2006 3:54:09 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d, N0t Y0urs | NYT:Jihadi Journal)
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To: Tijeras_Slim; FireTrack; Pukin Dog; citabria; B Knotts; kilowhskey; cyphergirl; Wright is right!; ..
For Aeronauts ping list.
3 posted on 08/22/2006 3:54:46 PM PDT by IonImplantGuru (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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To: sionnsar

the warnings of a possible Japanese attack made by Gen. Billy Mitchell in 1924 ---


The New York Times may have printed them.....


4 posted on 08/22/2006 3:55:45 PM PDT by Loud Mime (An undefeated enemy is still an enemy.......war has a purpose.)
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To: malia

Ping.


5 posted on 08/22/2006 3:56:38 PM PDT by Springman (9-11-06, what will happen?)
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To: IonImplantGuru

I thought this meant the last of the Japanese soldiers hiding in the jungle was found after all these years.


6 posted on 08/22/2006 3:56:42 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Peace In Our Time®)
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To: sionnsar
yep. That was why they court martialed him, he was way ahead of his time.
7 posted on 08/22/2006 3:56:55 PM PDT by Michael.SF.
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To: sionnsar
the warnings of a possible Japanese attack made by Gen. Billy Mitchell in 1924

Court-marshalled for being "innovative" in demonstrating what airpower could do to surface ships!!!

8 posted on 08/22/2006 3:56:56 PM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: IonImplantGuru

What took them so long?


9 posted on 08/22/2006 3:57:06 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (I am a big fan of urban sprawl but I wish there were more sidewalks)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; Professional Engineer; bentfeather; alfa6

Foxhole Ping


10 posted on 08/22/2006 3:57:33 PM PDT by Samwise (All that is needed for evil to triumph is that good men do nothing.)
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To: IonImplantGuru
However, the island's owners, the Robinson family, had heeded the warnings of a possible Japanese attack made by Gen. Billy Mitchell in 1924 and had plowed huge furrows in every conceivable landing site. Those furrows were still present and forced the Zero pilot to crash and be taken prisoner.

The Robinson's are true American heroes.
11 posted on 08/22/2006 3:58:59 PM PDT by Vision (God did not give us a spirit of timidity, but a spirit of power, love and self-discipline 2Timothy1)
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To: ExSES

Yes, the Navy was terrified by his demonstration, if thinking like that had caught on, appropriations for battleships and ships of the line would have disappeared.


12 posted on 08/22/2006 3:59:10 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: IonImplantGuru

Wow. Any pictures of this story anywhere?


13 posted on 08/22/2006 3:59:41 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Samwise

Thanks for the ping.


14 posted on 08/22/2006 4:00:23 PM PDT by Soaring Feather
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To: tet68; ExSES
Yes, the Navy was terrified by his demonstration, if thinking like that had caught on, appropriations for battleships and ships of the line would have disappeared.

It would have avoided all the wasteful spending on Battleships in the 1930's and '40s. We could have spent more on aircraft carriers and submarines and testing weapons. Imagine how many allied planes wouldn't have been lost if we had already developed aerial refueling.

15 posted on 08/22/2006 4:07:21 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Vision

Nah - the Robinson's only had the fields plowed. Read this story and you'll see the heros.

http://www.the-catbird-seat.net/PearlHarbor.htm


16 posted on 08/22/2006 4:08:49 PM PDT by Tennessee_Bob ("Those who "abjure" violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf.")
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To: IonImplantGuru; glock rocks; NormsRevenge

Great War Story...


17 posted on 08/22/2006 4:13:09 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: sionnsar

Prior Prevention Prevents Poor Performance- sounds like these people were well prepared!!!!


18 posted on 08/22/2006 4:14:47 PM PDT by MissEdie (Liberalscostlives)
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To: IonImplantGuru

I always wondered why the B-25 was called the Mitchell ... now I know thanks to this. Excellent.


19 posted on 08/22/2006 4:15:07 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Islam is a subsingularity memetic perversion : (http://www.orionsarm.com/topics/perversities.html))
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To: tet68
Please excuse my ignorance, exactly what was Gen. Mitchell court-martialed for?
20 posted on 08/22/2006 4:19:55 PM PDT by MissEdie (Liberalscostlives)
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To: Tennessee_Bob
Just read that .... awesome war story that was never really told

The pilot, his revolver-arm free, shot Kana-hele. The bullet went into his stomach. The wounded Hawaiian rushed the Japanese again. The pilot shot him again, in the thigh. He shot him a third time, in the groin.

"Then," Kana-hele later told the American interpreter who took down his story, "I got mad!"

The enraged Hawaiian came down upon the Japanese like a killer whale upon a shark. He grabbed him up by his leg and neck as he would have a sheep, swung him around in the air, and hurled him with terrific force against the lava stone wall.

Then Kana-hele turned to keep his promise to Harada. He was not needed there. The stocky Japanese was clumsily placing the muzzle of the long shotgun against his own stomach, attempting to commit hara-kiri. He was in such a hurry that he missed, as the shotgun kicked itself out of his hands. He grabbed it and aimed it at himself again. This time he succeeded, emptied both barrels into his stomach.

Kana-hele turned quickly to the pilot. He was not needed there either. The Hawaiian's wife had again rushed to his aid, this time armed with a rock.

"She was plenty hu-hu [angry], that woman," Kana-hele told the interpreter. "She started right in to beat that pilot's brains out. She did a pretty good job."

By this time, Beni-hakaka Kana-hele, with three bullets in his middle, wasn't feeling so well. He sat down by the bloody stone wall. His wife ran to the village for help. But while aid was coming on horseback, Kana-hele got tired of waiting, got up, and walked to the village alone.

Hawila returned from Kauai with a squad of men from the 299th Infantry; but they were not needed, except to round up Shintani and Harada's wife for the concentration camp.

So ended the Battle of Niihau.

The Japanese invader was the first armed enemy to assume command over free Americans on their own soil in more than 150 years. Fully equipped with modern weapons, he was overcome by two Hawaiians, unarmed except with native strength and courage and the primitive rocks of their own island.

When Major General Rapp Brush pinned American Legion hero medals on Hawila and Kana-hele, he said: "You showed fine qualities. When put upon, you took the only action decent people could take."

In Honolulu, we said: "Warn the Japanese not to shoot Hawaiians more than twice. The third time, they get mad!"

21 posted on 08/22/2006 4:24:25 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Islam is a subsingularity memetic perversion : (http://www.orionsarm.com/topics/perversities.html))
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To: MissEdie
Please excuse my ignorance, exactly what was Gen. Mitchell court-martialed for?

Gross insubordination at the direct order of Calvin Coolidge

22 posted on 08/22/2006 4:25:00 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Islam is a subsingularity memetic perversion : (http://www.orionsarm.com/topics/perversities.html))
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To: Centurion2000

The interesting part of the story to me, besides the obvious heroism, is the fact that the local Japanese on the spot weren't exactly, er, helpful. Which sort of puts a different light on things when liberals spout out about how no Japanese-Americans ever did a single wrong thing concerning the war effort through 1941-1945.


23 posted on 08/22/2006 4:29:07 PM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: MissEdie
Court Martial of William Billy Mitchell.
24 posted on 08/22/2006 4:29:41 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: ichabod1
I thought this meant the last of the Japanese soldiers hiding in the jungle was found after all these years.

All I can picture is the little nip on the Gilligan's Island episode ....... heeheeheeheeheeheehee ;-)

25 posted on 08/22/2006 4:30:51 PM PDT by Jackknife ( "It's not a real party 'til somebody breaks something.")
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To: Tennessee_Bob
Great Story!!!!

"Warn the Japanese not to shoot Hawaiians more than twice. The third time, they get mad!"

26 posted on 08/22/2006 4:34:02 PM PDT by txroadkill
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To: IonImplantGuru

bump


27 posted on 08/22/2006 4:34:35 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Paleo Conservative
Battleships were useful weapons well into 1941 in the Atlantic theater. Major surface actions occured around Guadelcanal involving battleships despite the use of air power. (In fact the nightly Japanese bombardment of Henderson field took out many planes.)
The North Carolina and Iowa class Battleships were hardly a waste of money.
28 posted on 08/22/2006 4:36:32 PM PDT by rmlew (I'm a Goldwater Republican... Don Goldwater 2006!)
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To: KellyAdmirer
"The interesting part of the story to me, besides the obvious heroism, is the fact that the local Japanese on the spot weren't exactly, er, helpful. Which sort of puts a different light on things when liberals spout out about how no Japanese-Americans ever did a single wrong thing concerning the war effort through 1941-1945."

That's if you believe the story as it is written. I have doubts. The locals were blessed, kind, noble, and heroic and the locals of Japanese ancestry died at their own hand or disappeared. One of them had a family of his own there and I have a high degree of respect for Japanese Americans.
29 posted on 08/22/2006 4:36:34 PM PDT by Bogeygolfer
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To: SamAdams76
What took them so long? Niihau is a privately-owned (since 1864, by the Robinson family) island off the coast of Kaui. "Possession is 9/10 of the law," as the saying goes. See the 'Battle of Niihau' link in my original post.
30 posted on 08/22/2006 4:48:21 PM PDT by IonImplantGuru (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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To: Centurion2000; MissEdie; Samwise
Samwise, thanks for the ping. For everyone else, here's info on Billy Mitchell.

The FReeper Foxhole Profiles Brig. Gen. William Mitchell - Dec. 15th, 2003

31 posted on 08/22/2006 4:58:49 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Samwise

Cool! Thanks for the ping.


32 posted on 08/22/2006 5:04:02 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Don`t go there...And If you do don`t get comfortable.)
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To: Samwise


33 posted on 08/22/2006 5:06:57 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Don`t go there...And If you do don`t get comfortable.)
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To: KellyAdmirer

I have to agree. He was not exactly helpfull to the Islander's was he? Does put things in a different perspective.


34 posted on 08/22/2006 5:16:40 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: rmlew

Correct. The Navy did wise up, finally, by scrubbing the Kentucky and Illinois, the last two of the Iowa class BBs. They also canceled the larger Montana class, which reached the blueprint stage...


35 posted on 08/22/2006 5:21:39 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: ExSES
Actually, he was court-martialed at Calvin Coolidge's direct order for issuing a public statement accusing senior leaders in the Army and Navy of incompetence and "almost treasonable administration of the national defense" following the crash of the Navy dirigible Shenandoah.


36 posted on 08/22/2006 5:26:25 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: rmlew
Battleships were useful weapons well into 1941 in the Atlantic theater. Major surface actions occured around Guadelcanal involving battleships despite the use of air power. (In fact the nightly Japanese bombardment of Henderson field took out many planes.) The North Carolina and Iowa class Battleships were hardly a waste of money.Battleships were useful weapons well into 1941 in the Atlantic theater.

The German navy probably could have benefitted from diverting the investment it made in the Bismark into more advanced submarines especially ones with air independent propulsion. Sure they tied up lots of surface ships for a few weeks, but eventually it was disabled by a torpedo launched from an obsolete Swordfish biplane launched from the British carrier HMS Ark Royal. Couldn't some of the battleships that were scrapped in the 1920's have been pretty effective too if they had been at Guadalcanal?

37 posted on 08/22/2006 5:27:48 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: IonImplantGuru
"What took them so long? Niihau is a privately-owned (since 1864, by the Robinson family) island off the coast of Kaui. "Possession is 9/10 of the law," as the saying goes. See the 'Battle of Niihau' link in my original post."

I did a little research and the major components of the plane were taken by our military during the war. All that's really left are the wings and they already have an intact plane of this variety. The wings will be a loan so the possession rule still applies. Interesting fact is the date I thought was a typo apparently wasn't. They spent 8 years digging the trenches back in the 20's. Go figure.
38 posted on 08/22/2006 5:29:27 PM PDT by Bogeygolfer
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To: SkyPilot


39 posted on 08/22/2006 5:30:47 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten; 75thOVI; Adrastus; A message; AZamericonnie; bcsco; beebuster2000; ...

Military History ping


40 posted on 08/22/2006 5:33:39 PM PDT by indcons (The MilHist ping list is back in operation :))
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To: Tennessee_Bob

Great story.


41 posted on 08/22/2006 5:35:13 PM PDT by cll (Carthage must be destroyed)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

"...They also canceled the larger Montana class, which reached the blueprint stage..."


Now that would have been one awesome ship.


42 posted on 08/22/2006 5:35:23 PM PDT by mcshot ("If it ain't broke it doesn't have enough features." paraphrased anon.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks; rmlew
They also canceled the larger Montana class, which reached the blueprint stage...

The Montana Class would have been a logistical nightmare. It was actually designed to withstand hits from the sixteen inch guns used by the North Carolina and Iowa Class battleships, but it wouldn't have been able to traverse the Panama Canal. I'm not sure if it would have been able to take direct hits from the 18 inch guns on the Japanese Yamato class battleships. It would have required lots more fuel and used up steel that could go into more tanks and aircraft carriers.

43 posted on 08/22/2006 5:35:45 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: SAMWolf

:^)

I didn't think you'd see the ping, but I added you just in case.


44 posted on 08/22/2006 5:37:59 PM PDT by Samwise (All that is needed for evil to triumph is that good men do nothing.)
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To: ichabod1

Just what I thought it meant too. It could be read either way.


45 posted on 08/22/2006 5:43:16 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: sionnsar
"the warnings of a possible Japanese attack made by Gen. Billy Mitchell in 1924"

Can you imagine the pin-head dutifully plowing up all his land? But Ah-Ha! With patience and perseverance, he did bag himself a Mitsubishi!

46 posted on 08/22/2006 5:50:55 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: Paleo Conservative

Looks a lot like an Iowa class BB...

47 posted on 08/22/2006 5:51:04 PM PDT by IonImplantGuru (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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To: Tennessee_Bob

Cool story!!


48 posted on 08/22/2006 5:54:05 PM PDT by true_blue_texican
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To: Paleo Conservative
The German navy probably could have benefitted from diverting the investment it made in the Bismark into more advanced submarines especially ones with air independent propulsion.
Probably. However the German Navy had been promised 5 more years of peace and planned accordingly.

Sure they tied up lots of surface ships for a few weeks, but eventually it was disabled by a torpedo launched from an obsolete Swordfish biplane launched from the British carrier HMS Ark Royal.
That only occured because german engineers assumed that British bombers would fly faster than 100 knots. It was only because they were using the Fairey Swordfish, that the British aviators escaped sestruction. And it was only luck that ensured a perfect hit on the Bismark.

By 1942, it was clear that only fast battleships would suffice. There is a heck of a difference between a ship that goes 23 knots and one that goes 30 knots when trying to catch a fast moving fleet. The 1923 South Dakota would have faired worse than the 1941 USS Washington (the 1941 USS South Dakota suffered electrical malfunction during the battle and served only as a camoflage and a target of japanese attention, while the Washington cloased on the Kirishima and then crippled it.)
In the Naval Battle of Guadalcanal, the US had the advantage of having 2 new fast battleships, whereas the Japanese only had upgraded pre-World War I battlecruisers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Battle_of_Guadalcanal

49 posted on 08/22/2006 5:58:21 PM PDT by rmlew (I'm a Goldwater Republican... Don Goldwater 2006!)
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To: rmlew; Paleo Conservative
The presense of the USS South Dakota in the Enterprise carrier group saved that carrier in the Battle off Santa Cruz. The USS Hornet, which did not have the luxury of 12 extra 5" guns and many 40mm guns from a battleship was sunk.
50 posted on 08/22/2006 6:03:59 PM PDT by rmlew (I'm a Goldwater Republican... Don Goldwater 2006!)
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