Skip to comments.Casual Friday is so '90s, dressing down is full time
Posted on 08/23/2006 8:48:35 AM PDT by qam1
On those rare occasions when insurance executive Tara Guizot wears a suit to her Los Angeles office, "people invariably ask me if I'm interviewing for a new job," she said.
The trend toward casual dress has gone so far that Matt Smith, a 27-year-old Los Angeles lawyer, is on a quest to establish "Tie Tuesday." He would like to wear a suit to work but knows he'd be ridiculed. Instead, Smith dons a tie every Tuesday and hopes other men in his office will follow. So far, a couple have.
"It's just something fun," he said.
Forget casual Fridays. In many workplaces, it's casual everyday as corporate dress codes have gone the way of fedoras and white gloves.
Office workers, from executives to receptionists, now wear pretty much what they want, sometimes baring more cleavage, tattoos and body fat than co-workers care to see.
Polo shirts, sweater sets and tailored slacks -- what many companies consider "business casual" -- have given way to halter tops, rubber flip-flops, T-shirts and jeans.
The trend has even sparked a mini-backlash among professionals opting for a more buttoned-down look.
"Wearing a tie used to be a sign of conformity. But dressing down is now conformity and dressing up is rebellious," said Robert Stephens, who founded the Geek Squad, Best Buy Co.'s computer repair service. Squad members sport short-sleeve white shirts and black ties.
Credit younger workers, who bring a who-cares-what-I-wear attitude to their cubicles, for the casual-everyday trend
"It really helps us, specifically with Gen X and Y workers," said Miriam Wardak, senior vice president for ICF International, a Virginia-based consulting firm, adding that some younger workers have told her they would not consider a potential employer if they had to wear a suit and tie.
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Of course that was after they relaxed the 'no facial hair' rules.
Ping list for the discussion of the politics and social (and sometimes nostalgic) aspects that directly effects Generation Reagan / Generation-X (Those born from 1965-1981) including all the spending previous generations (i.e. The Baby Boomers) are doing that Gen-X and Y will end up paying for.
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Another GenX bash thread. Meanwhile, we'll be in our jeans, paying for your SS benefits for the next 35 years, so lay off.
Gen Y wants to know which employers have "casual work ethic" Fridays.
You mean I should not have worn these flip flops and jeans to work today?
On that subject...
How casual are things in Kali?
The other day the judge started his oral decision with "Dude,..."
Happily sticking to khaki and golf shirt conformity. Nothing done in that garb can be done any better in anachronistic vestigial ramient. What the heck purpose does a tie serve. If it was winter and it was a scarf, maybe. Suit fabrics provide minimal protection against the elements, and the whole deal focuses on appearance vice capability. How good can a suit be?...lawyers and used car salesmen wear them!
IMO, clothes are gear. Wear that which supports function.
Incedently, this old fart is too old to be attempting the peacock process where appearance is concerned.
Can't trust a slicky-boy!
Tired of seeing women's tramp stamps sticking out over top of their jeans
Well, I used to know a chick who had this big, disgusting birthmark on her rather enormous cleavage, but other than that, I find that last statement hard to visualize.
I'll never forget the time the hot Ukrainian chick came to work wearing the mini-skirt, white fishnets, and the halter top. I was almost stampeeded to death in the crush of male humanity that decended on her when she went to the breakroom. What a wonderful way to die...
If what I just wrote made you sad or angry,
it was probably just a joke.
no he DIDN"T!
I can understand certain positions that would require it, but we never interfaced with customers, just one another. Yes, it was a waste of money.
In my job, I can wear anything from a dress or suit to skorts and polos, sandals, white keds, heels etc.
Of course, I don't deal much with people outside of ** ominous music ** the dungeon, my windowless office.
"paying for your SS benefits for the next 35 years"
or maybe not... 8-)
That is perfect!!!!!!!
When I worked in the private sector, I just wanted to see the 'business casual' rules enforced. For males, your options were pretty simple - khakis and a polo shirt, maybe a button-down style shirt with an open collar, and dress shoes.
If I strayed too far outside those lines, I'd most certainly get called on the carpet.
Women, on the other hand, could wear damn near whatever they wanted, as long as it wasn't jeans, and there was no backlash at all. The worst offenders were the several extremely overweight women who essentially wore pajamas/jogging suits and sandals to work every day, because it was the only thing they could fit into. Pissed me off to no end.
Well, the office where I was the fanciest dressed woman on the floor (without trying, mind you) only has two or three people younger than 45 on it...it's not merely a gen X phenomenon, IMHO...Personally think it's an old hippie idea.
I remember my first day at EDS when I took off my suit in the cafeteria to eat. I was quickly advised to put the coat back on.
Never again! They will pry my golf shirt and khakis from my cold, dead fingers.
My wife loves the old hats, and wished more men would wear them to work like long ago. I would, but I can't find one to match my boxers. Ahhh, the joys of working from home...
We were allowed to take our jackets off while in our cubicle, but we had to put it on when going to the cafeteria. The food (Marriot Services) wasn't good enough to justify going through all of that anyway.
Look at this garbage from your link...It's BUSH'S FAULT?!?!?!
The left is mentally ill!!!
I prefer "ass antlers"
This guy looks to be about as fun as a barrel of monkeys!
Where I work (electronics company and software development), a golf shirt is dressing up. My boss comes in with shorts and sockless sandals. Some people walk around without shoes, and sometimes there are torn jeans shorts.
The owner of the company doesn't mind, and he doesn't dress much better. I'm frequently the most dressed up person in the office, and I only wear jeans and motorcycle T-shirts.
I love it. It allows us to be relaxed, and concentrate on our work, rather than how we look.
my office had casual fridays, but we didn't produce our numbers so it ended. The philosphy of my boss is: your clothes reflect your attitude and focus. I agree. I wore my regular clothes every friday and always made my quota.
"I remember my first day at EDS when I took off my suit in the cafeteria to eat. I was quickly advised to put the coat back on."
It is odd that they were only forcing you to put the coat back on! Hopefully the AC wasn't turned to low.
and the short military haircut?
Yeah, I remember that.
Another contribution to society by spoiler H. Ross Perot.
"Forget casual Fridays. In many workplaces, it's casual everyday as corporate dress codes have gone the way of fedoras and white gloves."
Boy they aren't kidding. "Men" my age and less in my big-corp offices dress in dirty sneakers, drooping corduroys, and long saggy "polo shirts" hanging out.
Hence, the quotes. I still can't call males my age or less "men"; they look like back-alley boys.
Tell you what I'm tired of.
I don't mind casual, but I hate tacky.
On all the television shows now, so-called professional women wear low cut tops or blouses showing amounts of bought and paid for cleavage formerly only seen on hookers.
Now, I do not believe that female assistant DA's or police chiefs actually wear this stuff and I am sick, sick, sick of seeing it on TV.
Hello! qam1 is a well-known "GenX" guy who runs the GenX ping.
"It's just something fun," he said.
In a perfect world, he would be strangled with that tie...
Hopefully whoever invented the damn things got similar treatment.
The old dress code (while I kinda miss it) was disastrous for office thermostats. Guys in suits, long sleeve shirts and ties and women in whatever. (mean nice pants, blouses, etc.) They were always freezing and the guys were burning up.
How many office feuds did this cause.
I worked with a woman who would wear a strappy sundress showing fat arms I didn't want to see who whined all day about being cold. The guys had to wear suits at that time.
In olden times those throwing themselves upon a king's mercy had to appear in simple shirts with the nooses around their necks. The shirt requirement gave way to a formal 2- or 3-piece suit, and the noose morphed into a necktie.
At least in the metals/casting industry, "casual everyday" goes back to at least the mid-80s.
Last week, I stopped into the library to return a few books, and saw a gal working there who was wearing a bikini top with low-rise jeans, and a lower back tattoo. The letters were hipbone to hipbone, four inches high, and said, "BOOTY."
She wasn't of the body type that required a labeling of the booty area, if you get my drift.
These clothes say "I will be a grumpy clerk forever. Treat me like ear wax."
These clothes say "I am bound for management. Pretend you like me because I could be your boss someday."
These clothes say "I'm the only one who understands the computer system. Worship me."
And I too think, as everything else, that "casual" has been DUMBED DOWN to mean "!#$!$#-hole street-punk homeless". It used to mean NOT suits, but still NICE and sharp.
My daughter just took a job with a company run by an old dude, kind of a Sam Walton type, and they have a strict formal dress code. Men and women have to wear suits. Woman are allowed pantsuits, but have to wear hose and nice shoes.
(she had to buy everything new) It'll take a month of paychecks to get back in the black)
The biggest problem with womens' dress was prior to the biz casual move. At that time, they were dressing casual while men were still having to wear a tie.
I write the dress code now and I can assure you there is no sneaking around it, gender wise. Of course, it isn't very hard to follow (fairly casual), but it is strict. Flip flops are an obvious no-no.
My husband started wearing a nice fedora to work, and has gotten a lot of compliments and queries as to where he bought it.
that's funny. Especially the last one,