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Glenn Beck wants to choke companies to death
CNN Transcripts ^ | August 23, 2006 | Glenn Beck

Posted on 08/23/2006 6:31:50 PM PDT by Dane

Mike Hethmon, he is with the Immigration Reform Law Institute. He`s one of the groups backing the California lawsuit.

Mike, thank you for doing this. I`ve been saying for a long time, "Choke these companies to death." Give me the lawsuit in a nutshell and the chances of it actually winning.

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JMO, sounds a lot like with his anti-business venom and love of tort lawyers.

I find it interesting that people who rail against immigration the most since behind desks or microphones and spew venom against business like hillary does(remember hillarycare).

Yep Glenn sick these ambulance chasers against those evil farmers and contractors, since they do such evil things such as grow food or build shelter.

1 posted on 08/23/2006 6:31:52 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Dane

In this case,choking the company that hires an illegal criminal is a good thing.GO GLENN!

Businesses that hire illegal aliens have no excuse to do so other then break the law and not pay taxes.


2 posted on 08/23/2006 6:34:40 PM PDT by X918
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To: Dane
Ah. What other laws do you want to not enforce?

3 posted on 08/23/2006 6:35:43 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: X918

If they aren't breaking the law it wouldn't be an issue. I'm sure crack dealers feel that they're being unfairly targeted as well but that's just tough noogies.


4 posted on 08/23/2006 6:37:03 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: X918
Businesses that hire illegal aliens have no excuse to do so other then break the law and not pay taxes.

And you know they are not paying taxes how?

5 posted on 08/23/2006 6:38:32 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: cripplecreek
If they aren't breaking the law it wouldn't be an issue. I'm sure crack dealers feel that they're being unfairly targeted as well but that's just tough noogies.

And a farmer is the moral equivalent of a crack dealer, how?

6 posted on 08/23/2006 6:39:32 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane

I've never heard Glenn speak out AGANST big business and cheerlead for ambulance chasers. Are you sure you aren't going a bit overboard with your analysis?


7 posted on 08/23/2006 6:39:58 PM PDT by SaveTheChief ("Now if you'll excuse me, I have some idea balls to remove from a manatee tank.")
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To: X918

Ditto. Furthermore it allows illegals to stay, get an auto with no insurance and slam it into an innocent driver on the road. If that driver survives, I hope he or she can sue the employer for abetting an illegal resident who in turn is in a position to buy an auto with no insurance and do more damage to our society.


8 posted on 08/23/2006 6:40:32 PM PDT by Fee (`+Great powers never let minor allies dictate who, where and when they must fight.)
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To: X918
I am with you on the point that the immigration problem needs to be handled on a criminal, not civil level. I cringe at anything that brings about more civil litigation.

Glenn Beck is right more than he is wrong. And he is never afraid to debate a point.

9 posted on 08/23/2006 6:40:36 PM PDT by Ghengis (Alexander was a wuss!)
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To: Dane

Why else hire an illegal...because they are good workers?..HAHAHAHAHA!


10 posted on 08/23/2006 6:40:36 PM PDT by X918
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To: Dane

I agree, send the illegals back and let them file to get in legally. If the government was doing the job, lawyers wouldn't be needed, but I hope they win and help stop companies from breaking the law hiring illegals.


11 posted on 08/23/2006 6:41:06 PM PDT by libbylu
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To: Dane

You're still trying to promote the poor oppressed farmer brown lie?


12 posted on 08/23/2006 6:41:38 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: Dane

Anything for the almighty dollar, cheap lettuce and strawberries, eh, Dane?


13 posted on 08/23/2006 6:42:21 PM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: Dane

Unless there are VERY STRICT penalties for those who hire illegal aliens, there isn't much incentive to stop the practice.


14 posted on 08/23/2006 6:42:30 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (aka MikeinIraq - Go Bucks!!!)
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To: SaveTheChief
I've never heard Glenn speak out AGANST big business and cheerlead for ambulance chasers. Are you sure you aren't going a bit overboard with your analysis?

Huh using rhetoric such as "choking these businesses(mostly farmers and contractors) to death" is not anti-business?

15 posted on 08/23/2006 6:42:37 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane
He looks like Tom Goes to the Mayor. Not so much in this pic. But on TV, I swear, it's the same guy.

Just as painfully unfunny too.

16 posted on 08/23/2006 6:42:43 PM PDT by AlexandriaDuke (Conservatives want freedom. Republicans want power.)
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To: Dane

So you want open borders and just let anyone come in for any reason they want? I say throw out every illegal found and pray we find them all.


17 posted on 08/23/2006 6:43:26 PM PDT by libbylu
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To: X918

I have no problem with American companies that cannot survive without illegal labor being "choked to death." What are we, incompetent fools? Next thing you know, Dane will be defending the right of every company to have their own Senator.


18 posted on 08/23/2006 6:44:13 PM PDT by gaussia
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To: Dane

>>>I find it interesting that people who rail against immigration the most since behind desks or microphones and spew venom against business like hillary does(remember hillarycare). <<<

How many illegals are you hiring these days, Dane?


19 posted on 08/23/2006 6:46:07 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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To: gaussia
I have no problem with American companies that cannot survive without illegal labor being "choked to death." What are we, incompetent fools?

Oh you mean the way the American health care system has been choked to death by the trial lawyers.

20 posted on 08/23/2006 6:46:18 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane

If the companies can't survive without illegal labor, they shouldnt' be in business in the first place.


21 posted on 08/23/2006 6:47:13 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (aka MikeinIraq - Go Bucks!!!)
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To: Dane
GREAT NEWS!
Go after the scumbag tax cheats and illegal businesses!

I LOVE it!

Let's even the playing field and make everyone play by the same rules. This is capitalism at it's BEST.

Only the STRONG survive.....let the scumbags wither and die on the illegal vine.
22 posted on 08/23/2006 6:47:15 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Dane

Oh - Insane Dane, are you getting worried about being hit with a big law suit.


23 posted on 08/23/2006 6:47:53 PM PDT by TC Builders
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To: PhilipFreneau
How many illegals are you hiring these days, Dane?

None, also I don't want to see farmers and contractors "choked to death" as the American health system has by the ambulance chasers.

24 posted on 08/23/2006 6:47:54 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane

If they can't do their job without illegal labor, to hell with them.


25 posted on 08/23/2006 6:48:38 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (aka MikeinIraq - Go Bucks!!!)
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To: Dane

"And a farmer is the moral equivalent of a crack dealer, how?"


A farmer who hires illegals and a crack dealer? They're both scumbags who are breaking the law.


26 posted on 08/23/2006 6:49:18 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: MikefromOhio
If the companies can't survive without illegal labor, they shouldnt' be in business in the first place.

And a farmer hiring a guy named Jose is evil how, and he also should be lawsuited to death.

27 posted on 08/23/2006 6:49:59 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane
Makes perfect sense! This sounds pro-LAW ABIDING business to me.
BECK: ... Businesses who are playing by the rules are now suing competitors who hire illegals because they have an unfair advantage over them. Mike Hethmon, he is with the Immigration Reform Law Institute. He`s one of the groups backing the California lawsuit.

Mike, thank you for doing this. I`ve been saying for a long time, "Choke these companies to death." Give me the lawsuit in a nutshell and the chances of it actually winning.

MIKE HETHMON, IMMIGRATION REFORM LAW INSTITUTE: In this lawsuit, we have a legitimate labor contractor, a guy that recruits through our H-2a program, guest workers from foreign countries, follows all the rules, brought them up to California, and was told they couldn`t pick grapes fast enough. And who replaced them? Scofflaw agricultural contractors hiring illegal aliens.

So this suit was brought under the unfair competition or the unfair business practices laws in California and is asking for damages. And damages are the only way that we are going to show these scofflaw employers how this situation needs to unfold.

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HETHMON: We have a choice. We can follow the American model or we can follow the Brazilian model. We can do things for ourselves, and this is what this lawsuit is all about.

Most businesses are, in fact, law-abiding, and they want to do the right thing, and they want to uphold all the laws.


28 posted on 08/23/2006 6:50:45 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Dane
This thread seems a bit misleading?

And in California, that`s exactly what`s happening. Businesses who are playing by the rules are now suing competitors who hire illegals because they have an unfair advantage over them. Mike Hethmon, he is with the Immigration Reform Law Institute. He`s one of the groups backing the California lawsuit.

Mike, thank you for doing this. I`ve been saying for a long time, "Choke these companies to death." Give me the lawsuit in a nutshell and the chances of it actually winning.

Beck was for going after companies that illegally hire illegals. He didn't say anything about "choking companies to death" in general.

29 posted on 08/23/2006 6:51:05 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (You! Shake your junk!)
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To: Dane
Hello,

OMG, you are still at it! Are you an illegal? Any family that are? Hire illegals? What is with you?

MOgirl
30 posted on 08/23/2006 6:51:06 PM PDT by MOgirl (Democrats: The Culture of Treason (and you know what I'm talkin about!))
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To: Dane
And a farmer hiring a guy named Jose is evil how, and he also should be lawsuited to death.

It's not whether or not it's evil, it's that the practice is ILLEGAL. What don't you understand about the concept Dane?
31 posted on 08/23/2006 6:51:09 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (aka MikeinIraq - Go Bucks!!!)
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To: Dane
And you know they are not paying taxes how?

Easy. By paying day laborers "under the table" in cash. It happens every day.
32 posted on 08/23/2006 6:51:11 PM PDT by Hoboto (I blame Hippies.)
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To: isthisnickcool

well of course it's misleading, look who posted it.


33 posted on 08/23/2006 6:51:37 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (aka MikeinIraq - Go Bucks!!!)
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To: TC Builders

All I know is that if I'm ever injured by an illegal alien and I find the company that hired them, I'll be getting a lawyer who will go after that company for the big payout.


34 posted on 08/23/2006 6:52:23 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: Dane
Huh using rhetoric such as "choking these businesses(mostly farmers and contractors) to death" is not anti-business?

It's not where I live. The conglomerate farmers and contractors that utilize the practice of hiring the illegals are putting the small guys who don't right out of business. I see it on a daily basis.

35 posted on 08/23/2006 6:52:28 PM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: calcowgirl
HETHMON: We have a choice. We can follow the American model or we can follow the Brazilian model

Hmm, micromanaging business by govt. and nuisance lawsuits sounds like the Brazilian model to me.

36 posted on 08/23/2006 6:52:40 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane

"And a farmer hiring a guy named Jose is evil how, and he also should be lawsuited to death."

He's only "eeeeeeviiiiillll" if Jose is illegal.

:)

...in which case....sue his ass into oblivion.

Maybe he'll come around and hire LEGAL workers.....but I doubt it.
Too bad.


37 posted on 08/23/2006 6:53:52 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: MikefromOhio
It's not whether or not it's evil, it's that the practice is ILLEGAL. What don't you understand about the concept Dane?

Uh yes it is about if a business is evil or not. Is farming inherantly evil and should a trial lawyer be sicked on a farmer trying to get his product to market.

38 posted on 08/23/2006 6:54:42 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane
Uh yes it is about if a business is evil or not.

Well you can equate illegal activity to EVIL activity. Again from previous threads to this one, you seem to have a serious problem grasping this concept. You know, laws and such.

Is farming inherantly evil and should a trial lawyer be sicked on a farmer trying to get his product to market.

Again if they can't do it legally, they take the chance of having to deal with whatever else comes down the pike. Again I point you to the concept laws and RIGHT vs. WRONG. You don't seem to understand.
39 posted on 08/23/2006 6:56:25 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (aka MikeinIraq - Go Bucks!!!)
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To: Dane

"Huh using rhetoric such as "choking these businesses(mostly farmers and contractors) to death" is not anti-business?"

Nope.....it is PRO LEGAL business......

Fantastic!

Some one is finally standing up for legitimate business owners!



Yiiiipppeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!


:)


40 posted on 08/23/2006 6:56:34 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: MikefromOhio
Well you can equate illegal activity to EVIL activity. Again from previous threads to this one, you seem to have a serious problem grasping this concept. You know, laws and such.

So if a law was passed tomorrow that the speed limit on the Interstate is 10 MPH, you would defend it because it is the law?

What would you say to people who say going above 10 MPH is evil.

41 posted on 08/23/2006 6:59:45 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane

"Hmm, micromanaging business by govt. and nuisance lawsuits sounds like the Brazilian model to me."

Wrong again! Providing an even and fair business climate for legitimate businesses to compete is the AMERICAN WAY!


42 posted on 08/23/2006 6:59:58 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Dane

You evaded my question regarding the number of illegals wanted by the LAPD. Still working on an answer?


43 posted on 08/23/2006 7:01:12 PM PDT by gaussia
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To: Dane; MikefromOhio
Uh yes it is about if a business is evil or not. Is farming inherantly evil and should a trial lawyer be sicked on a farmer trying to get his product to market.

I was watching the Glenn Beck show and went back and read the transcript. Your thread here is misleading.

44 posted on 08/23/2006 7:01:20 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (You! Shake your junk!)
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To: taxed2death
Wrong again! Providing an even and fair business climate for legitimate businesses to compete is the AMERICAN WAY!

And govt. getting out of the way of business used to be the American way also.

45 posted on 08/23/2006 7:01:56 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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Didn't you get beat up bad enough earlier when you suggested that conservatives were getting more votes in Texas because of more Hispanics and at least a dozen people proved you wrong?

You didn't stay on that thread long when you started taking heavy blows. It was a butt-whippin' of Biblical proportion.

If you think illegal immigration is so wonderful, and obviously you do, why not illegally immigrate to Mexico?
46 posted on 08/23/2006 7:02:16 PM PDT by BW2221
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Dane don't be an idiot.

We aren't talking about speeding on the highway or anything.

WE are talking about employing someone who is in (well I would say OUR but I'm not entirely sure you are from the US anymore) MY country illegally.

What don't you understand.

They are committing a crime.

And you seem to want to cover for it.


47 posted on 08/23/2006 7:02:34 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (aka MikeinIraq - Go Bucks!!!)
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To: Dane
Sir,

As a point of reference and a friendly question here,

Do you personally know any companies (particularly in Texas) who have or currently do, hire, illegal immigrants and who might be subject to such lawsuits?

48 posted on 08/23/2006 7:02:35 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (A few clever bones tossed on gay unions, flag burning & Iraq still don't absolve GWB over BORDERS)
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To: Dane

You are exactly right, the Marxist rhetoric when it comes to immigration and capitalism reveals itself on almost everyone of these threads is revealing. This country was built on cheap immigrant labor and I guess what is now considered "evil" business. (And it certainly was more "evil" then, in the days before unions, OSHA and the rest of the regulations now working to strangle business to death.)


49 posted on 08/23/2006 7:03:42 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: Dane

The government is charged with protecting and securing the country.

Illegal immigration does indeed illustrate a hole in that security.

If you can't handle it, maybe you should move to Guatemala or something.


50 posted on 08/23/2006 7:03:42 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (aka MikeinIraq - Go Bucks!!!)
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