Bobbitt?...Bobbitt?...Bobbitt?...Anyone?
Posted on 08/24/2006 12:15:45 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
Wearing lipstick, a scooped-neck sweater and nearly waist-length hair, the witness cried while describing what it feels like to be a woman trapped inside a man's body.
"The greatest loss is the dying I do inside a little bit every day," said Michelle Kosilek, an inmate who is serving a life sentence for murder.
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Since then, Kosilek has been fighting for the state Department of Correction to pay for sex-change surgery, which can cost from $10,000 to $20,000. After two lawsuits and two trials, the decision now rests with a federal judge.
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The case is being closely watched by attorneys and advocates across the country who say Kosilek is an example of the poor treatment transgender inmates receive in prison.
Courts in several other states have ordered prison systems to allow transgender inmates to receive psychotherapy and, in some cases, hormone shots. But no inmate in the country has ever succeeded in getting a court to order a sex-change operation, according to advocates.
"If people are not treated, they suffer tremendously," said Shannon Minter, a board member of the Transgender Law and Policy Institute. "It's just as cruel to withhold treatment for gender-identity disorder as it is to withhold treatment for any other medical issue."
Cole Thaler, a transgender-rights attorney for Lambda Legal, a national advocacy group for homosexual, bisexual and transgender people. ..
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Should you go for maiming the body to fit the attitude, or healing the attitude to fit the body?
For $20,000, your body can be made as dysfunctional as your mind. And even then, the disorder isn't cured: you're STILL radically uncomfortable with the sex you were born with!
It's always been thought to be unethical to carve up a healthy, functioning body for no medical reason. Plus unethical to soak the taxpayers for $20,000 worth of therapeutically un-called-for, elective, essentially cosmetic (if you can call it that) surgery.
But ethics? What's ethics in the face of preference?
Paging John Michael Karr...
I'd bet there are some who would do the 'gender reassignment surgery' at no cost to Taxpayers. Lesse: a sharp knife and a white-hot poker for cauterizing. Yep; I volunteer.
On side note I bet he is popular with the other guys in his cell block.....
I'm a few of his fellow inmates would assist if given the proper tools.
Give him a rusty knife.
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LOL thought that little word was kinda funny considering the article.
So?
Ping, Pong, Or vice-versa.
Just send him to Thailand. The operation only costs about $1,500 US. Maybe he can stay there too. Sounds like a reasonable and inexpensive solution instead of paying to keep him locked up.
Ok if he wants a sex change fine. BUT he doesn't get to go to a hospital and get a doctor to do it on our dime. He has to get Bruno in the prison hospital to do it with some gardening shears, duct tape, and other assorted items. The only anesthetic you get is to bit down on a wooden stick or a little whiskey mabey a damp rag with some industrial cleaner on it thats it. DO you still want the operation??
I thought this article was leading to that. Colorado DOES pay for this for their inmates doncha know.
"the dying I do inside a little bit every day,"
How about the dying you did to someone else on the outside. Stay inside and rot Tinkerbell.
I agree. What is even crueler is to irrevocably mutilate someone rather than give them the psychiatric treatment their mental disorder requires.
I don't get it. He's a woman trapped in a man's body. Surrounded by lots of hunky males. If he's changed, he'll be transferred to a women's facility and be housed with a lot of hunky lesbians....................
No way should the taxpayers have to pony up the money for a free operation for a murderer. Changing his sex is outward change. The man's a murderer. What about his victims--they don't have a choice.
Wonder if this is how the Zodiac killer changed his identity?
My thoughts exactly. I'll bet he is watching this case very closely.
It could be the entire reason for his rap.
Does that mean if I go to jail, I can get a FREE EXTREME MAKEOVER at taxpayer expense, so as not to scar my delicate psyche with an imperfect physique?
Woo hoo, bring on the cuffs boys!
Give him the operation, then transfer him to the FEMALE part of the prison where he doesn't have access to men any more.
"...Kosilek is an example of the poor treatment transgender inmates receive in prison."
Everybody receives poor treatment in PRISON.
Better than dying all at once, like his victim did.
If little sweetcakes wants to get chopped, it's fine by me, just not at public expense. Just no.
Good point!
Give him a rusty tuna can lid and let him have at it.
If the guy is a sexual predator/rapist, loping off the offending body part can be done a lot cheaper. Let the victims/family have a knife/ax/whatever and go to it. No anesthestia, no local, just the cut it off.
Sheesh, what is this world coming to?
I feel like I'm being discriminated against, the government should buy me a brand new pickup to enhance my masculinity. Where's my lawyer?!?
I'm sure there's a long line of prisoners on HIS cell block who'd all chip in for the sex change.
LOL...This turkey sounds like a candidate for a one hour Barbara Walters special. She could slobber all over him and tell him how she feels his pain.
Let's remember why this bozo is here.
He murdered his wife.
So a disturbed individual who has a gender crisis who has not murdered his wife, must work, scrimp and save the cash to buy his own surgery.
But, kill your wife and get a free ride from the taxpayers.
Scotty? Beam me up!
No kidding, what an oppressive society we live in.
I think that the government should provide greater accessibility for sex change operations for everyone! Its a basic human right, afterall...
If found guilty, would Karr be eligible for the death penalty? Do they have that in CO.
My cat actually had that surgery, but then he had a genuine urological problem that required it. He still thinks he's a tomcat, though.
That's right! I mean, some of the TG types are probably so upset just thinking about it that they won't even commit crimes that will get them sentenced to prison!
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My second thought just as I finished posting... wonder where Lorena is these days?
This bastid murdered someone. Let him die a little each day. He deserves it.
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