Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Air Marshall Dress Code Changed
The Guardian (UK) ^ | 8-25-2006 | Leslie Miller

Posted on 08/24/2006 5:03:54 PM PDT by blam

Air Marshal Dress Code Changed

Friday August 25, 2006 12:16 AM

By LESLIE MILLER

Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - Air marshals were told Thursday they will be allowed to dress the way they want and choose their own hotels in order to protect their anonymity while on missions.

Federal Air Marshal Service chief Dana Brown, who has been in the job for five months, said he was changing the rules, starting Sept. 1, after listening to air marshals' concerns.

In a memo to the air marshals, Brown said the dress code was changed to ``allow you to blend in and not direct attention to yourself, as well as be sufficiently functional to enable you to conduct your law enforcement responsibilities.''

Air marshals had complained that Brown's predecessor, Thomas Quinn, insisted on a too-formal dress code that allowed people to pick them out. The marshals said, for example, that being forced to wear a jacket and collared shirt made them stand out on flights to Hawaii.

The dress requirements were loosened in October, but the agency kept details under wraps. The change announced Thursday leaves it up to marshals how each of them dresses for duty.

Air marshals also won an agreement from Brown to let them choose their own hotels ``within economic and related guidelines'' to help keep their identities secret.

Marshals claimed that their undercover status was threatened because they had to stay at designated hotels and show their credentials when checking in.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: air; airlinesecurity; airmarshals; banglist; changed; code; danabrown; dress; dresscodes; marshall; tsa; wot
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-56 next last

1 posted on 08/24/2006 5:03:56 PM PDT by blam
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: blam

Finally!!


2 posted on 08/24/2006 5:04:20 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (I LIKE you! When I am Ruler of Earth, yours will be a quick and painless death)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blam

Wow. Common sense.


3 posted on 08/24/2006 5:04:53 PM PDT by Clara Lou (A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality. --I. Kristol)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: freedumb2003

Good news.


4 posted on 08/24/2006 5:05:11 PM PDT by unkus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: blam

'Bout damn time.


5 posted on 08/24/2006 5:06:23 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Fight Crime. Shoot Back.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blam

Get ready for the ACLU to bring a lawsuit! ;)


6 posted on 08/24/2006 5:06:46 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , You earn it . You keep it!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blam
Air marshals also won an agreement from Brown to let them choose their own hotels ``within economic and related guidelines'' to help keep their identities secret.

Better keep them out of Holiday Inn Expresses so they don't get to overzealous.

7 posted on 08/24/2006 5:07:18 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup (Assistant to the traveling secretary.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Clara Lou

You gotta know that won't be allowed to stand :)


8 posted on 08/24/2006 5:07:22 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Tom Gallagher - the anti-Crist [FL Governor, 2006 primary])
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: unkus

That guy Quinn had a stick up his ass.


9 posted on 08/24/2006 5:07:31 PM PDT by markoman (The man with the rubber glove was....surprisingly gentle.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: blam

Are these guys hired to head up agencies because they are brain-dead or what? Little men make their jobs big! Thank Heaven this one seems to have come around at last!!!


10 posted on 08/24/2006 5:08:57 PM PDT by Paperdoll (.........on my knees)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Clara Lou
Wow. Common sense.

Yeah ... whoda thunk! This coming from management in a tax funded agency ... that actually listened to input from the people tasked to carry out the job. Simply amazing ...

11 posted on 08/24/2006 5:09:04 PM PDT by BluH2o
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: blam

About time!


12 posted on 08/24/2006 5:11:50 PM PDT by Teflonic
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NonValueAdded
LOL. It is a federal agency we're talking about here, isn't it?
13 posted on 08/24/2006 5:12:47 PM PDT by Clara Lou (A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality. --I. Kristol)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Teflonic

I've watched these guys drill at the local range.

Very impressive......


14 posted on 08/24/2006 5:13:40 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Fight Crime. Shoot Back.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: markoman
He is the kind of guy who would have contemporary soldiers wearing these uniforms:


15 posted on 08/24/2006 5:13:47 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: blam

One of my daughter's music fans is an air marshal. He does Brazilian Jiu Jitsu (sp). Very nice guy but I wouldn't wanna mess with him.


16 posted on 08/24/2006 5:16:40 PM PDT by manic4organic
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blam

Quinn was a certified jackass!


17 posted on 08/24/2006 5:16:57 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blam

Tuxedos are mandatory?


18 posted on 08/24/2006 5:17:32 PM PDT by toddlintown (IT)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blam

The new dress code for air marshalls, as demonstrated by the men in the front row,
has been selected to allow them to pass more easily through security.

19 posted on 08/24/2006 5:17:48 PM PDT by Michael.SF.
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blam

Hopefully they won't all show up dressed like Crockett and Tubbs.


20 posted on 08/24/2006 5:22:25 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blam

Someone in the government is using common sense. I am utterly blown away.


21 posted on 08/24/2006 5:22:31 PM PDT by Bahbah (Goldwasser, Regev and Shalit, we are praying for you...and now Steve and Olaf.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blam

Next: Arm ALL the pilots.


22 posted on 08/24/2006 5:24:34 PM PDT by 2Am4Sure
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blam
Marshals claimed that their undercover status was threatened because they had to stay at designated hotels and show their credentials when checking in.

A recent report to Congress found that the Sheraton Fort Lauderdale Airport Hotel in Florida had designated the Federal Air Marshal Service ``company of the month'' because of the number of rooms it had reserved at the hotel.

Boy, the stupidity of our government never ceases to amaze me!

23 posted on 08/24/2006 5:25:11 PM PDT by Azzurri
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blam

We'll never get to the War on Terror until we get passed this asinine War on Error.


24 posted on 08/24/2006 5:28:08 PM PDT by jwh_Denver (I can't beat em but I ain't joining them either.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blam
MILLION TO ONE:

NOW it's a "non-uniform, UNIFORM", i.e., EVERYONE has pressed "casual" FBI tan-chinos, pressed polo shirt, unscuffed docksiders, mirrored sun-glasses, wastebag that screams "SIDEARM..!".

Oh, and a Motorola radio printing through front right pants pocket.

Right?

25 posted on 08/24/2006 5:31:01 PM PDT by gaijin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blam
Wow it took years, and finally some common sense has seeped down through the bureaucracy! At this rate, in another decade or so they may start scrutinizing young Arab men.....
26 posted on 08/24/2006 5:40:20 PM PDT by KoRn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: markoman

Quinn was former Secret Service - that explains the stick up his ass....but I have to tell you, to get a government rate at any hotel, you do have to show your gov't ID or gov't MasterCard....


27 posted on 08/24/2006 5:41:25 PM PDT by BamaDi (W - My hero!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: blam

Just where in the Constitution does it provide for Federal Air Marshalls? For that matter, where does it provide for a Federal police force?


28 posted on 08/24/2006 5:45:30 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blam

This should have been done at the get-go!


29 posted on 08/24/2006 5:47:19 PM PDT by TheLion
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blam

"Air marshals had complained that Brown's predecessor, Thomas Quinn, insisted on a too-formal dress code that allowed people to pick them out."

Quinn. Typical dumb ass gubmint employee.

Keeps getting promoted, cuz he's dumber than dirt.

Hope Quinn is nowhere anything important.

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004234.htm


30 posted on 08/24/2006 5:51:03 PM PDT by truth_seeker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Azzurri
Sheraton Fort Lauderdale Airport Hotel in Florida had designated the Federal Air Marshal Service ``company of the month'' because of the number of rooms it had reserved at the hotel.

Sheraton was a little dumb in this case also don't you think?

31 posted on 08/24/2006 5:55:47 PM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Zuben Elgenubi
Just where in the Constitution does it provide for Federal Air Marshalls? For that matter, where does it provide for a Federal police force?

Would you prefer that there were no Air Marshalls or an FBI?

Curious as to how you formulated your question.

32 posted on 08/24/2006 5:59:41 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: blam
being forced to wear a jacket and collared shirt made them stand out on flights to Hawaii

What about a white jacket with a Hawaiian shirt? That would have worked. Nevertheless, I totally support the policy change, having spotted at least one air marshal on my own.
33 posted on 08/24/2006 5:59:41 PM PDT by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Focault's Pendulum
Constitution. Please find for me where there is a provision for a federal police force.
34 posted on 08/24/2006 6:01:50 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: Zuben Elgenubi
Constitution. Please find for me where there is a provision for a federal police force.

OK..so help me out here..are you against an FBI style organization?

Also..could the "Framers" have anticipated the future, as to where it applies to Air Tavel.

35 posted on 08/24/2006 6:07:06 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: Zuben Elgenubi
Just where in the Constitution does it provide for Federal Air Marshalls? For that matter, where does it provide for a Federal police force?

Try Article I, Section 8. Seems pretty straightforward.

36 posted on 08/24/2006 6:07:12 PM PDT by Toskrin (It didn't seem nostalgic when I was doing it)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: Zuben Elgenubi
Please find for me where there is a provision for a federal police force.

After the Supreme's recent decision in the medical pot case, anything the government wants to do can fall under the Commerce Clause. The Ninth and Tenth Amendments have been written out of the Constitution.

37 posted on 08/24/2006 6:10:42 PM PDT by Lawgvr1955 (You can never have too much cowbell !!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: Zuben Elgenubi

I guess a "constitutional" argument could be made about having them on flights that didn't cross state or national borders...


38 posted on 08/24/2006 6:11:42 PM PDT by mrsmith
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: Toskrin
OK. Here's Article 1, section 8. I see provision for navy, army, militia, even the post office, but absolutely no provision for a federal police force. How straightforward is that, Toskrin? Please show me where the provision rests.

Section 8. The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;

To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;

To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;

To establish post offices and post roads;

To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;

To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;

To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;

To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;

To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;

To provide and maintain a navy;

To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings;--And

To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.

39 posted on 08/24/2006 6:14:30 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: gaijin

A Hawaiian shirt is ideal undercover wear:

Baggy allows belt carry.
Bold pattern breaks up any outlines.
Makes you look like a dopey tourist.

But realistically, the best way to blend in on most flights is to dress like an absolute slob.


40 posted on 08/24/2006 6:14:44 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: Focault's Pendulum
Also..could the "Framers" have anticipated the future, as to where it applies to Air Tavel.


There was interstate travel back then, and the coaches were more often subject to violent crime than are airplanes. SO if they were not justified then, they aren't now.

Of course, the real issue is that back then, passengers (and drivers) weren't disarmed when boarding for an interstate journey, so the notion of a paid, fare-paying, armed federal guard would have been laughable.
41 posted on 08/24/2006 6:17:34 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: Beelzebubba; Zuben Elgenubi
Of course, the real issue is that back then, passengers (and drivers) weren't disarmed when boarding for an interstate journey, so the notion of a paid, fare-paying, armed federal guard would have been laughable.

Shall we dispose of it?

42 posted on 08/24/2006 6:25:22 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: blam

Damn, took 'em what, nearly five years to acquire a lick of common sense?


43 posted on 08/24/2006 6:26:41 PM PDT by dirtboy (This tagline has been photoshopped)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: freedumb2003

Hello, I'm Christopher and I'll be your Air Marshall tonight.
First, let me tell you about our specials...


44 posted on 08/24/2006 6:28:30 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: blam
Let the marshalls wear stained white underwear tops and blue jeans with the knees cut out.

They'll blend in with the airplane crowd real well.

The hotel customers, too.

Leni

45 posted on 08/24/2006 6:36:41 PM PDT by MinuteGal (Israel, Hold Firm !................No Retreat means No Repeat !)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Bahbah

"Someone in the government is using common sense. I am utterly blown away."

It's a wonder we've survived this long.


46 posted on 08/24/2006 6:38:12 PM PDT by dljordan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: blam

They do need to dress like most of the other passengers: Homeless people, replete with shopping bags.


47 posted on 08/24/2006 6:53:59 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: jwh_Denver
We'll never get to the War on Terror until we get passed this asinine War on Error.

Time for a grammar test:

http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take?testid=14457200288064322170

48 posted on 08/24/2006 7:06:56 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: Zuben Elgenubi

Right here:

"To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof."

Every law requires someone to enforce that law. What part of this is confusing you?


49 posted on 08/24/2006 7:24:24 PM PDT by Mountain Troll
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: Mountain Troll

Right.


50 posted on 08/24/2006 7:30:37 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-56 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson