Skip to comments.ABANDONED SCHOONER MYSTERY..NO CREW, A HALF-EATEN MEAL AND PILES OF CLOTHES(Mediterranean)
Posted on 08/25/2006 6:20:48 AM PDT by Marius3188
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Aaaaargh! Glad ye posted that, Mate! I almost overlooked the date.
Time flys when yer havin' rum.
I remember a tale about a boat that was found deserted. It was thought that the guests and crew all went for a swim, without a rope ladder or other such device so that they could climb back on board, thus they all drowned. A huge mental blunder.
Keep in mind, this might just be an old rumor without any fact.
Especially in crowded sealanes, like the Channel.
Sounds like the yacht ran under, probably after striking floating debris and breaching the hull. Could be floating anything, what cruisers really hate is deck cargo washed off a container ship. Make solid contact with one of those and you'll go under in one piece, never to be heard from again.
Coolest user name, ever....:)
Yep...I've been on all types of boats since I was young...I usually think that these type of incidents happen with inexperience boaters. Depending on someone's knowlege of the area where they are boating...unknown hazards are a common occurance.
I am very happy to be utterly land-locked up in the mountains, right now....:D
"I've sailed offshore almost all my life - Atlantic, Pacific, Med, & Southern Ocean, as well as the Great Lakes"
Even us Great Lakes Boaters have intrigue. Last summer on Huron, there was a similiar event. A woman attorney, O/O disappeared from her vessel which was underway to Macinac. The vessel was located, empty about seven miles offshore several days later. Her boyfriend was with her and even though they found her body several weeks later, he has disappeared. Lots of mystery because of the evidence left onboard.
Anybody who's thinking about cruising ought to crew with somebody else before they take the plunge. And bopping around in a safe area like the Bahamas is a good idea for a starting place.
I don't mind telling you the Great Lakes scare the heck out of me. Probably because the only place I've ever done any sailing is the Caribbean and the FL-GA coast.
The Great Lakes are not for the faint at heart. Lots of shallows, rocks, and Erie can be devastating in storms. Thank God for electronic charts......
Worst thing in the Caribbean is the darn coral, which is NOT always on the charts. But you can see it coming, just post a lookout in the crosstrees and proceed with caution.
Hurricane season, we tie everything down and stay on shore.
"I have a punctured dinghy."
I don't know if mine is punctured or what, but sometimes it leaks a bit. Is that a puncture, or just another aging malfunction?
Have you been to Sardinia? There haven't been any "Barbary Pirates" there in quite some time.
In other news: Terror Fears As (Islamic) Radicals Reopen Vital Port (Mogadishu)
Look at a map. Find Mogadishu, then find Sardinia. Note: they're not particularly close.
So I would be interested to hear from you when the great shift in Islam occurred and they gave up piracy. They were supressed, but that doesn't mean they are gone.
Pirates operate out of Somalia even as we speak. Today we have US Navy ships assigned to the Horn of Africa in order to supress them. Is it so outrageous to suppose that one of the many failed states in North Africa could also be home to pirates?
Remember, the original term for hijacking was "Air Piracy". These terrorists have been siezing and destroying airliners for fun and profit for decades. Tripoli, a scant 500 miles from sweet, peaceful Sardinia, was behind the bombing of Pan Am 103. Why is it so unthinkable that somebody in this area is up to their old tricks?
I did a brief check on any reports of piracy in the Med and found nothing reported in 2006. Why bring-up Somalia?
And if this mystery is never solved, it won't show up on the report for 2006, either.
Why bring-up Somalia?
That just happened to be the only story in yesterday's paper about a major pirate safe haven opening up for business.
People have the notion that pirates are a thing of the past, and went out with sailing ships and wooden legs. The fact is that piracy and air piracy is a thriving enterprise in much of the World, and that because of the general antipathy toward the Infidel, many of the pirates are Muslim.
The above is the only reason I chose to comment on this thread.
That's what I was thinking! Ever seen the German remake from the '70s?
Yes I have! :-)
Could it be "The Flying Dutchman?"
Terrorist threats are very real in the Great Lakes. We have made the trip into Canada many times via Lake Erie and the Detroit River. We go to Windsor, Canada which is across the river from Detroit. All we do is call immigration, report our location, people onboard and that is it. When we return to US waters, we simply go back to our home marina. Is that an open border or what?
-The Mary Celeste encountered a waterspout (ocean tornado) based upon bilge water being above the bilge pump plungers and most hatches being battened. The weather for that day was calm and warm with a cold front coming in. He believed only a waterspout could explain the closed hatches and bilgewater above the pump plungers which would have occured from a positive pressure difference between the bilge and outside air pressure.
-The cargo of industrial alcohol had been disturbed and some caskets had leaked.
Several of the sails were torn and unfurled but had not been set.
The author's conclusion was that followig a waterspout the presence of the bilgepump water and the alcohol gave the crew the impression the boat not only was sinking but liable to blow up. He surmised they launched in the (missing) lifeboat to wait for the fumes to clear from a safe distance. A gust of wind came and unfurled one or more of the hastily pulled sails driving the Mary Celeste beyond the reach of the lifeboat.
It was known a strong gale hit that part of the ocean that night and the Mary Celeste's crew, perished at sea in the lifeboat.
Think I know where the crew is...
Down a well in Tehran (waiting to show themselves until
the appointed hour)!
Oh well, it was spooky while it lasted, lol!
You are correct...it does still sound very odd. This person must have some deep pockets to risk leaving a large boat like that anchored out for weeks unattended. And if that is the case...just pay to dock. Penny wise and pound foolish. Thanks again...where else but FR could we have someone like you with your "rusty" Italian help get answers to this mystery!
That's for sure, or maybe a sailor of the libertarian persuasion who needs to do a better job calculating the scope of his anchor rode next time? (Hmmm. Didn't I read somewhere William F. Buckley was going to be spending the summer on the Costa Smeralda? lol!)
p.s.)I just did a search for the veliero fantasma but couldn't find any updates if the guy reclaimed his boat yet.