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Why homosexuals should not adopt or teach children
Townhall ^ | 08/25/2006 | Mike S. Adams

Posted on 08/25/2006 9:53:42 AM PDT by BJClinton

Ever since I announced my bid for the United States Presidency, I’ve been questioned about some of my more radical political opinions. Most of those questions have dealt with my proposed economic policies – for example, the abolition of the IRS and the implementation of the Fair Tax. Today, I offer an answer to questions about why I am opposed to the idea of gays adopting or teaching children.

Several years ago, I began writing columns questioning the so-called gay rights movement. I prefer to call it the “gay privileges” movement because gays are not presently deprived of anything that is rightfully theirs. A gay man has the same right I have to marry a woman. His waiver of that actual right does not allow him to substitute another “right” he deems more suitable to his needs.

At the time I decided to express such criticism of the gay agenda, I was not fully opposed to gay adoption. Nor was I absolutely opposed to hiring gay grammar school teachers. My criticism of the gay agenda was narrower than it is today and the tone of my criticism was far more subdued. That all changed when the homosexual rights crowd started to circulate some of my early columns.

Frequently, the criticism would come en masse from gay groups who would post my columns on PRIDE websites or chat rooms at universities like UNC-Greensboro, which is also known as UNC-Gonorrhea. They would work themselves into a fury over my well-reasoned essays and then respond with a flurry of obscenities unfit for reproduction in this column.

Before long, readers identifying themselves as “gay” were threatening to cut off my genitalia, burn my children, rape my wife, and, just to top it all off, kill me, too. Good thing these readers were all “gay.” Otherwise, they might not be so happy.

So, of course, I took the time to survey a number of other conservative columnists to find out where most of their profane and threatening hate mail comes from. The answer is always the same: Without hesitation, they all say it comes from the “gay” community.

Despite the volume and intensity of this gay vitriol, I have always refused to reciprocate with threats of violence or strings of profanity. Instead, I have relied on the far more powerful tool of heavy sarcasm. And that refusal to respond with profanity or violence has had a predictable effect on the gay activists. It has made them much less gay (less happy, that is) and also much more active.

One of their more recent stunts was to get together on a gay website to hatch a plan to destroy my marriage. Actually, they started their plan on one of the Transgendered websites. Since the Transgendered people are so angry, I suppose they are technically classified as “gay,” too.

The first step of their plan to destroy my marriage was to concoct a false story that I once committed adultery. For the record, I have never cheated on my wife. I did, however, attempt to cheat on my wife one time. Unfortunately, I couldn’t get past Ms. Coulter’s bodyguard.

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I did, however, attempt to cheat on my wife one time. Unfortunately, I couldn’t get past Ms. Coulter’s bodyguard.

OMG! The exast same thing happened to me! Small world.
1 posted on 08/25/2006 9:53:42 AM PDT by BJClinton
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To: BJClinton

You'd think it was commons sense NOT to have homos as role models or near kids. GEESH!


2 posted on 08/25/2006 9:55:04 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: BJClinton
I now realize that the American Psychological Association was right when it previously classified homosexuality as a mental illness in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual.

Adams is great. His further point that there is nothing wrong with discriminating against people with a mental illness is right on. Crazy people can (perhaps) hold a lot of different jobs. Teaching children is not one of them.

3 posted on 08/25/2006 9:59:39 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ( “I'm the Emperor, and I want dumplings!” (German: Ich bin der Kaiser und will Knödel.))
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To: All

Does anyone have a cite to the 11th Distric Court opinion regarding upholding the ban on homosexuals adopting children?


4 posted on 08/25/2006 9:59:45 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: BJClinton
"There is nothing wrong with discriminating against a class of people who are afflicted with an emotional or mental illness that is relevant to the completion of a given task – especially if that task is crucial to the well-being of the society at large. That is why I am opposed to the idea of gays adopting or teaching our children."

They are very EMOTIONALLY DISTURBED and ACT out this EMOTIONAL CONFUSION through SEX and their relationships. To be "gay" is to be VERY ANGRY, TOUCHY and UNHAPPY. They are vicious people to an extreme when criticized in any form.
5 posted on 08/25/2006 10:00:07 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: All

Hmmm,

Should schools be LEGALLY REQUIRED to disclose if their child is being exposed to homosexuals?


6 posted on 08/25/2006 10:01:04 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: BJClinton

Who is this that has announced their bid for the U.S. Presidency?


7 posted on 08/25/2006 10:01:54 AM PDT by Free Baptist
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...And now you realize why I am opposed to gays adopting or teaching our children.

Umm... because some of them made foul threats against you? Because they used to be considered mentally ill?

If I wrote essays opposing Judaism, or stating that black people should not be allowed to adopt white children, or that women aren't fit to serve on juries, I would most likely get some pretty vicious hate mail from Jewish, black and female readers, respectively. That wouldn't prove much, even though various authorities have stated in the past that Jews are evil, blacks are violent and women are hysterical.

You'll have to come up with a better argument than "because I've succeeded in pissing them off".
8 posted on 08/25/2006 10:09:52 AM PDT by xenophiles
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To: BJClinton

Almost the same thing happened to me...fortunately, Ann's bodyguard stopped her from getting too close, while I told her, "sorry Ann...I can't accept your offers. Stay in touch, though...we can still be friends."


9 posted on 08/25/2006 10:14:49 AM PDT by JRios1968 (This kid knows how to wallop a baseball!!!!!!)
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To: BJClinton

I have been reading Mike Adams for a couple of years...he is great!


10 posted on 08/25/2006 10:19:13 AM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: BJClinton
Excellent column. Anyone who has criticized the homo-promo movement in a public way knows exactly what this guy is talking about. They'll try to ruin your life any way they can and have absolutely no compunction about it.

Regardless of what APA has to say, same-sex attraction is a mental disorder--and a symptom of a cluster of other conditions. Such individuals should be absolutely disqualified from teaching children and/or adopting.
11 posted on 08/25/2006 10:27:15 AM PDT by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals, regardless of party.)
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...And now you realize why I am opposed to gays adopting or teaching our children.

Umm... because some of them made foul threats against you? Because they used to be considered mentally ill?

If I wrote essays opposing Judaism, or stating that black people should not be allowed to adopt white children, or that women aren't fit to serve on juries, I would most likely get some pretty vicious hate mail from Jewish, black and female readers, respectively. That wouldn't prove much, even though various authorities have stated in the past that Jews are evil, blacks are violent and women are hysterical.

You'll have to come up with a better argument than "because I've succeeded in pissing them off".




See, you are using a fallacy of logic to justify your position. Being of Jewish decent is NOT an option. Being black is NOT an option. Being gay IS an option. I can prove it by showing many examples of gay people going back to healthy relationships. Other than Michael Jackson, have you ever seen a black man change colors? A jewish person can denounce his religion, but by blood they are still Jewish, like it or not.

Next in line....sex with animals because they truely love thier dog and they are being denied the RIGHT to enjoy their dog sexually.

Go ahead, bring on the "I was born this way" and "God made me this way" tripe. Every person has their crosses to bear. God made everyone, but their choices to follow their "Free Will Sins" move them closer or further from him. It is CLEAR from every society known to mankind...this is a filthy position to try to justify all in the name of being PC.

All that is their choice, just don't expect special consideration and exceptions because of their unhealthy faults. The sexual disease rate among gays is much, much higher than general population. The casual sex, multiple partners is also way out of whack with the norm.

Flame away


12 posted on 08/25/2006 10:29:40 AM PDT by MadeInAmerica (- If ILLEGAL means Undocumented - Then Breaking and Entering means Unannounced Visit)
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To: ClearCase_guy; nmh
I do not agree with this article. In particular, I don't think gays should be banned from teaching. Let me first state that I am not gay. It is wrong to consider all gay persons as pedophiles. Also, many pedophiles are not gay.
I had teachers in High School and College that never came out and said they were gay, but they were not married, and all appearances were pointing in that direction. These were excellent teachers, and I doubt seriously if they ever tried to abuse any child.

Ban pedophiles, not gays.

As for adoption, that is more complicated. I would be more concerned about that, but in my state, only one person would be able to adopt (no gay couple). In some cases, it might be better than the foster home shuffle.
13 posted on 08/25/2006 10:33:32 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: xenophiles

While what you said is technically correct, you're equivocating a religion, ethnicity and gender with where one wants to stick their willie. Hardly the same.


15 posted on 08/25/2006 10:42:47 AM PDT by BJClinton (What happens on Free Republic, stays on Google.)
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To: MadeInAmerica

No.. you're using a fallacy of logic. His point had nothing to do with the level of mutability of the attributes involved. It also had nothing to do with whether being gay is just an "unhealthy fault."

His point was that the author makes no real arguments in favor of his position, except "because I've succeeded in pissing them off."

Whether or not you agree with his arguments, you can still call him on his stunted writing and juvenile reasoning.


16 posted on 08/25/2006 10:46:26 AM PDT by ivyleaguebrat
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To: ivyleaguebrat

For clarity.. in my first and second paragraphs the pronoun "his" refers to xenophiles, in the third it refers to the author of the column.


17 posted on 08/25/2006 10:48:50 AM PDT by ivyleaguebrat
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To: BJClinton

UNC-Greensboro is very gay. Literally something like 50% of the male students are homosexual.

However, if you're a straight young man, you can be ugly and dumb and still have a harem, since 70% of the student population is female. Even after accounting for lesbians, you've got about 4:1 odds. I used to know a smoking hot young lady from my hometown who went there who always complained about not having a boyfriend.


18 posted on 08/25/2006 10:54:02 AM PDT by jack_napier
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19 posted on 08/25/2006 10:57:21 AM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: ivyleaguebrat

No.. you're using a fallacy of logic. His point had nothing to do with the level of mutability of the attributes involved. It also had nothing to do with whether being gay is just an "unhealthy fault."

His point was that the author makes no real arguments in favor of his position, except "because I've succeeded in pissing them off."

Whether or not you agree with his arguments, you can still call him on his stunted writing and juvenile reasoning.




Mike Adams is a very sarcastic writer. Look a little deeper into what he wrote please. The "because I've succeeded in pissing them off." is a good place to start.

Oh yeah, just a minor thing to think about. Everyone knows when you "piss off" a liberal....you're on to something good.


20 posted on 08/25/2006 10:58:45 AM PDT by MadeInAmerica (- If ILLEGAL means Undocumented - Then Breaking and Entering means Unannounced Visit)
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To: nmh
They are very EMOTIONALLY DISTURBED and ACT out this EMOTIONAL CONFUSION through SEX and their relationships. To be "gay" is to be VERY ANGRY, TOUCHY and UNHAPPY. They are vicious people to an extreme when criticized in any form.

I grew up in Key West...undoubtedly, I was taught by some gay people. Gay people babysat me. In fact, as I got older, I socialized with gay people, and considered these same gay people my friends.

I doubt that you have ever met a gay person.

And people wonder why FReepers are considered right-wing wackos....

21 posted on 08/25/2006 11:03:14 AM PDT by ContemptofCourt
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To: BJClinton
[ Why homosexuals should not adopt or teach children ]

Answer: Because they are Queer...

22 posted on 08/25/2006 11:05:48 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole.)
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To: ContemptofCourt

Ooops! You didn't get the memo? The best targets are those you never actually see. It's simply enough to just have a vague concept.


23 posted on 08/25/2006 11:08:44 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: ContemptofCourt

I doubt that you have ever met a gay person.

And people wonder why FReepers are considered right-wing wackos....




I just love the "well, I know gay people and they are nice people." What you leave out is the fact that you do not call them on their position. Try it sometime. Tell them you don't agree with their forcing society to give them special consideration and see how nice they stay.


24 posted on 08/25/2006 11:09:04 AM PDT by MadeInAmerica (- If ILLEGAL means Undocumented - Then Breaking and Entering means Unannounced Visit)
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To: ContemptofCourt
I have some questions about your profile page, but they are off topic so I'll refrain unless you invite me to ask,,,,,,

LOL

25 posted on 08/25/2006 11:12:10 AM PDT by Protagoras (Lay down with dogs, get up with fleas)
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To: durasell

Ooops! You didn't get the memo? The best targets are those you never actually see. It's simply enough to just have a vague concept.




Hey, I don't know any lepers either, but I know enough not to move my family into a colony of them.

Just plain goofy


26 posted on 08/25/2006 11:13:24 AM PDT by MadeInAmerica (- If ILLEGAL means Undocumented - Then Breaking and Entering means Unannounced Visit)
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To: MadeInAmerica

People should get to live the way they want and where they want. I'm all for that.


27 posted on 08/25/2006 11:22:21 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: MadeInAmerica
Oh yes, you are right....I've never had such a discussion with any of my gay friends...

Did you know that all black people are theives, too? Anymore ridiculous stereotypes?

28 posted on 08/25/2006 11:23:11 AM PDT by ContemptofCourt
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To: ContemptofCourt; MadeInAmerica

What the hell is wrong with those Scots being so cheap. Dang, they're as cheap as the Irish are drunk.


29 posted on 08/25/2006 11:26:10 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: durasell

Well, according to Mel Gibson, its all the Jew's fault.


30 posted on 08/25/2006 11:30:01 AM PDT by ContemptofCourt
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To: durasell

People should get to live the way they want and where they want. I'm all for that.




Well, what if your neighbor wants to have sex with goats....in their own back yard? Guess thats ok since it's the way THEY want and where THEY want? It is their property ya know!

That logic is what opens the door for....any one can justify any thing at any time for any reason.

What 2 consenting "adults" do in the privacy of their own home is their business. I have an issue when it moves to the public forum and gets shoved in my families face because they want "special" considerations.


31 posted on 08/25/2006 11:30:05 AM PDT by MadeInAmerica (- If ILLEGAL means Undocumented - Then Breaking and Entering means Unannounced Visit)
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To: ContemptofCourt
Anymore ridiculous stereotypes?

I have one! Actually, you have one.

Many of the founders were evil and they were trial lawyers.

:^}

32 posted on 08/25/2006 11:30:21 AM PDT by Protagoras (Lay down with dogs, get up with fleas)
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To: MadeInAmerica

The deal seems to be that gay communities (with few exceptions) exist in large metropolitan areas. The vast majority of people outside of these areas have little or no contact on a daily basis with gay people other than watching re-runs of Will & Grace.


33 posted on 08/25/2006 11:33:54 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: ContemptofCourt

Blaming it on the Jews is so passe...


34 posted on 08/25/2006 11:34:50 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: ContemptofCourt

One of my tennis partners was a flaming gay.My straight friends used to tease me about him all the time but he respected my preferences and it was all cool.
Jerome was a walking encyclopedia of old music and we had lots of fun quizzing each other on Sixties songs.He also was a dynamite tennis player.
If I had said,"He's a FAG,I don't want to be seen with HIM",it really would have been MY loss.


35 posted on 08/25/2006 11:35:30 AM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: ContemptofCourt

Oh yes, you are right....I've never had such a discussion with any of my gay friends...
Did you know that all black people are theives, too? Anymore ridiculous stereotypes?




Again, you go with race verses someone wanting to stick their penis where fecies gets dumped. Face it...that is the bottom line with gay men. Take it to their private homes and keep it OUT of the public square.

I have a better idea. Chat with a black person and explain to them how you believe the gay struggle is like their struggle for equal rights. Hahahahaha. You would be lucky if all they did was tell you how messed up your logic is.


36 posted on 08/25/2006 11:35:58 AM PDT by MadeInAmerica (- If ILLEGAL means Undocumented - Then Breaking and Entering means Unannounced Visit)
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To: ContemptofCourt

NO,its all the GAY Jews'fault!


37 posted on 08/25/2006 11:37:17 AM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: ContemptofCourt

I grew up in Key West...undoubtedly, I was taught by some gay people. Gay people babysat me. In fact, as I got older, I socialized with gay people, and considered these same gay people my friends.



Gay people and conchs...is there such a thing as a gay conch?


38 posted on 08/25/2006 11:38:11 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: durasell

What the hell is wrong with those Scots being so cheap. Dang, they're as cheap as the Irish are drunk.




Yeah..kinda like the Germans. Start all the world wars. The ones they don't start, they just supply the materials.

See, none of that bothers me even tho I'm German, Irish, Scottish and several others mixed in...to include black. My forefathers got around a bit.

I hate to break the news to everyone here, but mankind has always and will always stereotype. That my foolish friends is how we survived...past experiences for future survival. In the perfect world, not an issue. In real life...you better use your experiences.


39 posted on 08/25/2006 11:41:05 AM PDT by MadeInAmerica (- If ILLEGAL means Undocumented - Then Breaking and Entering means Unannounced Visit)
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To: durasell

The deal seems to be that gay communities (with few exceptions) exist in large metropolitan areas. The vast majority of people outside of these areas have little or no contact on a daily basis with gay people other than watching re-runs of Will & Grace.




Oh, I understand that. I spent several years living with my gay Uncle in SF. Actually the only gay person I ever had an issue with was a butch woman. Her girlfriend had the hots for me. As for my Uncle and his friends. You would have never known they were gay toher than their classy homes and supurb taste in food (for real). That was long before the 90's ushered in the "movement" most of them simply hated.


40 posted on 08/25/2006 11:44:15 AM PDT by MadeInAmerica (- If ILLEGAL means Undocumented - Then Breaking and Entering means Unannounced Visit)
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To: MadeInAmerica

As Americans, our view of national stereotypes is unique.


There is a brilliant scene in one of those tom clancy movies. Brad Pitt and Harrison Ford are playing pool in some suburban bar and the patrons start throwing around national stereotypes. The Brad Pitt character, who is Irish, tenses and waits for violence. All the second, third and four generation Americans laugh it off. A very subtle scene, but it relates a lot.


41 posted on 08/25/2006 11:46:21 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: ContemptofCourt

How does race equate to sexual deviants? I understand the ploy is useful to normalize a mental disturbance, nevertheless, it is still a transparent ploy.

Humans are a sexually dimorphic species, the survival of which depends on the natural attraction between men and women. What is so difficult about figuring out the obvious and ignoring the deviants argument for accepting such mental disturbances?

On the homoped issue: stats show that well over 50% of male homosexuals are in fact homopeds. Have you heard, they have an international organization called NAMBLA? I lived in the Gay, I mean Bay area, south of san Fransicko for 6 years. The practice of homopedia is rampant and has been for several decades. And, as I have stated before, this is nothing new, the Roman male homosexuals bought and sold catamites (young boys) many centuries ago. This is part of the lifestyle folks. Don't expect male homos to talk about it in normal company. They have yet to come out of the closet with this one.


42 posted on 08/25/2006 11:50:03 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot
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To: durasell

As Americans, our view of national stereotypes is unique.


There is a brilliant scene in one of those tom clancy movies. Brad Pitt and Harrison Ford are playing pool in some suburban bar and the patrons start throwing around national stereotypes. The Brad Pitt character, who is Irish, tenses and waits for violence. All the second, third and four generation Americans laugh it off. A very subtle scene, but it relates a lot.




It is pretty unique for sure. Good point.


43 posted on 08/25/2006 11:51:25 AM PDT by MadeInAmerica (- If ILLEGAL means Undocumented - Then Breaking and Entering means Unannounced Visit)
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To: MadeInAmerica
Again, you go with race verses someone wanting to stick their penis where fecies gets dumped. Face it...that is the bottom line with gay men.

This practice is hardly confined to gay men...c'mon, now...

44 posted on 08/25/2006 11:54:26 AM PDT by ContemptofCourt
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To: Neoliberalnot

Ahhh, you know the real facts from experience.... not what someone said you should think.

Exactly on point.


45 posted on 08/25/2006 11:55:10 AM PDT by MadeInAmerica (- If ILLEGAL means Undocumented - Then Breaking and Entering means Unannounced Visit)
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To: MadeInAmerica

I've said this before, but it needs repeating.

Walk into any large restaurant or bar in any large city and you'll see the grandchildren and great grandchildren of guys who would have been at each other's throats in a murderous rage less than a century ago. And, oddly, their descendants aren't in a murderous rage. They are simply enjoying each other's company.

That's really the genius of America. And, I believe, at least part of why some backward societies hate us.


46 posted on 08/25/2006 11:55:56 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: ContemptofCourt
This practice is hardly confined to gay men

Using that practice as the essential defining point of "who I am" is confined to gay men.

Any normal person would consider such self-definition to be a sign of mental illness.

47 posted on 08/25/2006 12:00:16 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ( “I'm the Emperor, and I want dumplings!” (German: Ich bin der Kaiser und will Knödel.))
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To: ContemptofCourt

Again, you go with race verses someone wanting to stick their penis where fecies gets dumped. Face it...that is the bottom line with gay men.
This practice is hardly confined to gay men...c'mon, now...




Well, I really can't comment on that as I personally never figured that would be very entertaining for me or my wife of 22 years. On the same approach, I would be against a married couple saying they want special considerations because they do.

That said, what 2-3-4, etc consenting adults do in the privacy of their own home is their own business and their choices. Just do not fight society to grant special considerations for this and keep it out of the public square, schools, etc.


48 posted on 08/25/2006 12:04:28 PM PDT by MadeInAmerica (- If ILLEGAL means Undocumented - Then Breaking and Entering means Unannounced Visit)
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To: durasell

I've said this before, but it needs repeating.

Walk into any large restaurant or bar in any large city and you'll see the grandchildren and great grandchildren of guys who would have been at each other's throats in a murderous rage less than a century ago. And, oddly, their descendants aren't in a murderous rage. They are simply enjoying each other's company.

That's really the genius of America. And, I believe, at least part of why some backward societies hate us.




Another very estute point and well worth repeating.


49 posted on 08/25/2006 12:08:03 PM PDT by MadeInAmerica (- If ILLEGAL means Undocumented - Then Breaking and Entering means Unannounced Visit)
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To: ClearCase_guy

This practice is hardly confined to gay men
Using that practice as the essential defining point of "who I am" is confined to gay men.

Any normal person would consider such self-definition to be a sign of mental illness.




I believe that ball got driven out of the park. Nice reply.


50 posted on 08/25/2006 12:09:43 PM PDT by MadeInAmerica (- If ILLEGAL means Undocumented - Then Breaking and Entering means Unannounced Visit)
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