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Archaeologists Find 2,500-Year-Old Mummy In Mongolia, Tattos And All (Blonde Headed Scythian)
Yahoo News ^ | 8-24-2006

Posted on 08/25/2006 12:14:30 PM PDT by blam

Archaeologists find 2,500-year-old mummy in Mongolia, tattoos and all

Thu Aug 24, 2:18 PM ET

AFP/DDP/GAI-HO Photo: This undated picture released by the German Archaeological Institute (GAI) shows a mummified body from...

BERLIN (AFP) - An international group of archaeologists has unearthed a well-preserved, 2,500-year-old mummy frozen in the snowcapped mountains of Mongolia complete with blond hair, tattoos and a felt hat.

The president of the German Archaeological Institute, Hermann Parzinger, hailed the "fabulous find" at a press conference to present the 28-member team's discovery in Berlin.

The Scythian warrior was found in June at a height of 2,600 meters (8,500 feet) in the Altay Mountains in an intact burial mound or kurgan.

Parzinger said the tomb was practically untouched when the team discovered it.

"We just had to sweep away some dust and could begin," he said.

Researchers said the most striking feature about the man was his light blond hair, which Parzinger acknowledged may have yellowed after his death.

The man, who was apparently well-off, was cloaked in a beaver-skin coat with sable trim and sheep's wool lining that was in remarkably good condition, and still intact skin on his upper body revealed tattoos.

Two horses with elaborately decorated saddles and bridles, weapons and wooden, clay and animal horn vessels were placed in the tomb alongside the corpse to accompany the warrior into the next life.

The recovered items are currently in storage in Ulan Bator. Parzinger said even the contents of the horses' stomachs would be examined to offer insights into the region's vegetation two centuries before Christ.

Parzinger said that until now remains of the Scythians, who were Iranian nomadic peoples, had only been found on the Russian side of the Altays. He said the new find showed that their territory was much broader than first thought.

He said the ice had helped preserve the mummy and his belongings and noted that global warming also posed a threat to such archaeological finds. He said that if the trend continues, in 20 to 30 years there would be no more ice kurgans.


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KEYWORDS: 2500; all; archaeologists; blonde; find; godsgravesglyphs; headed; mongolia; mummy; old; scythian; tattoos; year
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1 posted on 08/25/2006 12:14:34 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv
GGG Ping.

We've posted on this discovery before. This one has more detail.

2 posted on 08/25/2006 12:15:27 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Either Ozzie Osbourne or Jimmy Hoffa.


3 posted on 08/25/2006 12:15:33 PM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?")
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To: blam

bump


4 posted on 08/25/2006 12:16:26 PM PDT by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: blam
...noted that global warming also posed a threat to such archaeological finds...

Global Warming - Is there anything this wacky Bush caused malady CAN'T affect?

5 posted on 08/25/2006 12:17:31 PM PDT by akorahil (Thank You and God bless all Veterans. Truly, the real heroes.)
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To: blam
On The Presence Of Non-Chinese At Anyang

Blonde Headed Mongoloid

6 posted on 08/25/2006 12:18:26 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
"He said the ice had helped preserve the mummy and his belongings and noted that global warming also posed a threat to such archaeological finds. He said that if the trend continues, in 20 to 30 years there would be no more ice kurgans."

Typical last-line hype of GW! What makes this numbnutz think there are more to "find" now, anyway?

7 posted on 08/25/2006 12:20:04 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Scatology is Serendipitous)
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To: blam

Uhhhh, should that be Mongolian? I thought "mongoloid" was abirth defect...


8 posted on 08/25/2006 12:21:04 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Scatology is Serendipitous)
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To: blam
The Scythian warrior was found in June at a height of 2,600 meters (8,500 feet) in the Altay Mountains in an intact burial mound or kurgan.

Did someone say "Kurgan?"


9 posted on 08/25/2006 12:21:38 PM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: blam

There's a PBS program about this girl in the "Secrets of the Dead" series. I believe it's about modern day descencents of the Amazons. The researcher wondered if she could find evidence that there had actually been Amazon-like warriors and if they had descendents. Her work led her to this girl. It's a fascinating show.


10 posted on 08/25/2006 12:26:07 PM PDT by twigs
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To: blam

I remember that the Austrian Iceman they found in 91' had tat's as well.

http://members.tripod.com/~mr_sedivy/iceman3.html

He goes back to 3350bc - 3100bc


11 posted on 08/25/2006 12:26:12 PM PDT by Marius3188 (Happy Resurrection Weekend)
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To: blam
closeup of the mummy:


12 posted on 08/25/2006 12:26:19 PM PDT by dubie
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
"Uhhhh, should that be Mongolian? I thought "mongoloid" was abirth defect..."

Okay.

13 posted on 08/25/2006 12:28:22 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

One archaeologist to another archaeologist,"hey this looks like a grave,let's dig up the poor bastard and see what we find" !!!


14 posted on 08/25/2006 12:29:19 PM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: dubie

Must have found the remains of MM.


15 posted on 08/25/2006 12:29:19 PM PDT by gallaxyglue (Have we lost our civilization as we know it?)
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To: blam

Always interesting bump


16 posted on 08/25/2006 12:29:22 PM PDT by Gothmog
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To: dubie

Really, I was about to post: "[insert Helen Thomas joke here]"!


17 posted on 08/25/2006 12:30:31 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: blam

Hey! What a coincidence! I used to date a blonde-haired Scythian!


18 posted on 08/25/2006 12:31:08 PM PDT by RexBeach
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To: Obie Wan

"He's gay, Jim."


19 posted on 08/25/2006 12:31:56 PM PDT by battlegearboat
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To: blam
Parzinger said that until now remains of the Scythians, who were Iranian nomadic peoples, had only been found on the Russian side of the Altays. He said the new find showed that their territory was much broader than first thought.

Or...maybe he was banished, on account of the tattos, and he died among others who were indigenous to the region???

20 posted on 08/25/2006 12:36:14 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts + Arbua is a cesspool)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Of course, this article neglects to point out that, at one time, the temperature was warm enough that this person did not die covered in ice, and that the ice covered him over time.


21 posted on 08/25/2006 12:39:04 PM PDT by kellynch (Expecto Patronum!)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
"Uhhhh, should that be Mongolian? I thought "mongoloid" was abirth defect..."

Mongoloid, caucasoid, negroid and australoid are classifications that have been used to goup people in to categories based on gross morphology. Morphological classifications are generally falling out in favor and are being replaced by genetics.
22 posted on 08/25/2006 12:40:29 PM PDT by ndt
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To: blam; FairOpinion; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; ...
Thanks Blam. Just had one like this, but this is more detailed. Welcome to all our new GGG'ers.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list. Thanks.
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on or off the
"Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list or GGG weekly digest
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23 posted on 08/25/2006 12:41:14 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, August 10, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Mongoloid race
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Mongolism was formerly employed to describe people with Down syndrome. For the song by Devo, see Mongoloid (song).

The term Mongoloid race or Mongoloid sometimes referred to as "Sinoid" or "Mongolid", is most used in discussions of human prehistory, historical definitions of race and in the forensic analysis of human remains.

The suffix "-oid" indicates a similarity, not necessarily exact, to something else. Mongoloid, therefore, does not necessarily equate to earlier terms such as "Mongolian" or "Asiatic" — whatever the parameters for their definitions may be — and much less does it equate to the Mongolian nationality.

Racial classification, and even the existence of race, is controversial. The -oid racial terms are now often controversial in both technical and non-technical contexts and are likely to give offense no matter how they are used.


24 posted on 08/25/2006 12:43:19 PM PDT by Red Badger (Is Castro dead yet?........)
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To: kellynch

Heretic! Apostate! Realist! What's up with you, anyway?


25 posted on 08/25/2006 12:43:26 PM PDT by jagusafr (The proof that we are rightly related to God is that we do our best whether we feel inspired or not")
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To: blam

Scythians...prototype Hells Angles on horseback. Even the Romans thought twice about messing with them.


26 posted on 08/25/2006 12:43:52 PM PDT by Leg Olam ("There are some people that if they don't know, you can't tell them." Louis Armstrong)
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To: Lee Heggy123

Conan, perhaps?


27 posted on 08/25/2006 12:46:25 PM PDT by Mr. C
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To: jagusafr
Mea culpa. Mea maxima culpa.
28 posted on 08/25/2006 12:48:13 PM PDT by kellynch (Expecto Patronum!)
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To: blam

Either that is one short horse, or one tall girl!


29 posted on 08/25/2006 12:50:16 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (Soros is a communist goon, controlled by communist goons.)
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To: orionblamblam

That explains it. He was one *cold* bastard.

:)


30 posted on 08/25/2006 12:56:33 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: twigs

Nothing like the Shelmikedmu though.


31 posted on 08/25/2006 12:57:28 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: blam
This map from Silk-Road.com shows the Scythians ranging far beyond the Altai Mountains. It also mentions a 2000 year old body found in 1947 in Mongolia, covered with tattoos. Same guy?


32 posted on 08/25/2006 12:59:21 PM PDT by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: CobaltBlue

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33 posted on 08/25/2006 1:02:04 PM PDT by VaRepublican
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To: blam
Velly intelesting.

Maybe someday these guys will stop being surprised to find blonds in that part of the world??

34 posted on 08/25/2006 1:02:28 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: dubie

Why did you cut the photo to do away with her pointy hat and broom?

vaudine


35 posted on 08/25/2006 1:09:58 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
blond hair, tattoos and a felt hat.

Are we sure it's not Kid Rock?

36 posted on 08/25/2006 1:10:54 PM PDT by Argus
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To: Argus

Are we sure it's not Kid Rock?

naaa. he's too busy having pamela injected with silicone.


37 posted on 08/25/2006 1:11:56 PM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?")
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To: Argus

actually, looks a little like willie nelson.


38 posted on 08/25/2006 1:12:28 PM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?")
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To: Argus

or one of the pilots of the Area 51 crash site.


39 posted on 08/25/2006 1:13:11 PM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?")
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To: vaudine
Why did you cut the photo to do away with her pointy hat and broom?

Because I don't have enough money to replace everyones keyboards...
40 posted on 08/25/2006 1:16:48 PM PDT by dubie
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To: Mr. C

Conan was Cimmerian. They ate Scythians for lunch.


41 posted on 08/25/2006 1:23:47 PM PDT by LexBaird (Another member of the Bush/Halliburton/Zionist/CIA/NWO/Illuminati conspiracy for global domination!)
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To: blam

Isn't a Mongoloid a derogotory term for one with Down's Syndrome? Would the correct term just be Mongol?


42 posted on 08/25/2006 1:26:02 PM PDT by Seamus Mc Gillicuddy (Great minds discuss ideas, medium minds discuss events, small minds discuss people.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
Uhhhh, should that be Mongolian? I thought "mongoloid" was abirth defect...

Nope. Mongolians have 'mongoloid' features. The old-time name for Down Syndrome was 'mongoloidism.'

The definition of 'mongoloid' in anthropology is:

"Of or being a major human racial classification traditionally distinguished by physical characteristics such as yellowish-brown skin pigmentation, straight black hair, dark eyes with pronounced epicanthic folds, and prominent cheekbones and including peoples indigenous to central and eastern Asia."

43 posted on 08/25/2006 1:35:32 PM PDT by Bernard Marx (Fools and fanatics are always certain of themselves, but the wise are full of doubts.)
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To: MonroeDNA
Either that is one short horse, or one tall girl!

Short horse. Mongolian horses are very unique, and also quite small. Check out the riders vs the size of the horses in this pic, keeping in mind that these riders are generally around five feet in height. (Mongolian Horses)

44 posted on 08/25/2006 1:41:10 PM PDT by wyattearp (Study! Study! Study! Or BONK, BONK, on the head!)
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To: orionblamblam

Best line in Highlander:

Hooker; "Hi! I'm Candy!"

Kurgan; [sinister chuckle] "Of course you are"


46 posted on 08/25/2006 2:17:28 PM PDT by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent.........)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

Better preserved, though.


47 posted on 08/25/2006 3:40:04 PM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: blam

Scythians were probably one of the earliest Indo-European speakers. I am not surprised that some found their way to Asia. I wonder if the Tocharians are an off-shoot of Scythians.


48 posted on 08/25/2006 7:55:37 PM PDT by Ptarmigan (Ptarmigans will rise again!)
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" I wonder if the Tocharians are an off-shoot of Scythians."

You may have it backwards, read through the thread that is linked in post #6.

Some anthropologists believe the Europeans migrated from western China to Europe, not the other way around.

Professor Stephen Oppenheimer says that his DNA studies show that 50% of Europeans can trace their DNA back to one man in the North Indus valley and made their way to Europe through the Middle East.
The other 50% can trace their DNA back to a son of the same man who made their way to Europe a thousand years later through Russia.

49 posted on 08/25/2006 9:26:54 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

49 posts and not one mention of Bill Clinton's attraction to old mummies.


50 posted on 08/25/2006 9:28:48 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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