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U.S. Army Corps: New Orleans Levees May Not Hold in New Storm
Fox News ^ | 8/26/2006

Posted on 08/26/2006 10:31:59 AM PDT by mom4kittys

Hurricane Ernesto is coming!

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TOPICS: Front Page News; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: blanco; corruption; ernesto; hurricane; katrina; nagin
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1 posted on 08/26/2006 10:32:00 AM PDT by mom4kittys
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To: mom4kittys

Shep to the rescue!


3 posted on 08/26/2006 10:36:20 AM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos)
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To: kinoxi

Will the last person to leave, please turn out the lights?


4 posted on 08/26/2006 10:36:24 AM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: mom4kittys

People that build houses under sea level next to a "lake" on the coast are insane in the first place. Other than the French Quarter with is high ground nothing should be built there.


5 posted on 08/26/2006 10:38:17 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (You! Shake your junk!)
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To: mom4kittys

New Orleans is a toilet bowl city....thats the chocolate of the city Mayor Nagin....sinking, stinking city lying low and ready for another flush.... get out by hook, crook or yellow school bus. The French screwed up building it there in the first place. And it's upstanding citizens who fled are mucking up the city of Houston.


6 posted on 08/26/2006 10:39:01 AM PDT by tflabo (Take authority that's ours)
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To: mom4kittys
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7 posted on 08/26/2006 10:39:07 AM PDT by nralife
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To: Michael Goldsberry

Shep will need a carton of kleenix after he hears this.


8 posted on 08/26/2006 10:39:21 AM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America and All who protect and preserve this Great Nation.)
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To: Michael Goldsberry

Don't forget whoraldo too.


9 posted on 08/26/2006 10:39:26 AM PDT by appeal2
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To: mom4kittys

There goes chocolate town again , Mayor Naggin might say .


10 posted on 08/26/2006 10:39:28 AM PDT by lionheart 247365 (( I.S.L.A.M. stands for - Islams Spiritual Leaders Advocate Murder .. .. .. ))
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To: kinoxi

This is nothing new! The corpse (Corps) have been covering up for years!


11 posted on 08/26/2006 10:40:20 AM PDT by tiger63
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To: tflabo

Well said.


12 posted on 08/26/2006 10:41:06 AM PDT by Orange1998
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To: mom4kittys
Quick!! We must send them billions of tax dollars so that they can defy nature. We OWE it to the Chocolate City to provide them with this money! They deserve it.
13 posted on 08/26/2006 10:41:49 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Only a fool creates ill will unnecessarily.)
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To: Orange1998

Flush out Sen. Mary LandScrew and Gov. Blank-O too.


14 posted on 08/26/2006 10:42:14 AM PDT by tflabo (Take authority that's ours)
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To: kinoxi

Oh no, more billions for plasma TV's!


15 posted on 08/26/2006 10:42:39 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: mom4kittys
If half the residents have not yet returned, maybe they didn't like living there in the first place?
16 posted on 08/26/2006 10:42:49 AM PDT by operation clinton cleanup (Assistant to the traveling secretary.)
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To: isthisnickcool
They always talked about tons of debris from Katrina. Why couldn't they have sterilized the debris and used it to build up the low areas?

BTW there's no such thing as category 5 levees. Were talking high seawalls made of rust proof steel and dams hundreds of miles long, costing near a trillion dollars or over.
17 posted on 08/26/2006 10:44:40 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: mom4kittys

Good timing. Heineken guy was just about to run out of beer anyway.


18 posted on 08/26/2006 10:44:43 AM PDT by nhoward14
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To: Clara Lou

I understand and agree with how you feel, but in reality the majority of the devastaion was caused by faulty levees that we were told over and over again were Category 3 proof.


19 posted on 08/26/2006 10:45:58 AM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: mom4kittys; Cindy; Godzilla; All

Army Corps Engineers Warn New Orleans Levees May Not Hold in New Storm

The head of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers conceded Saturday that despite aggressive efforts to repair the levee system in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina, it was unclear whether the it could hold up to a sizable hurricane this year.

Lt. General Carl Strock, the commander of the Corps, said the agency was carefully tracking Tropical Storm Ernesto, which was spinning in the Caribbean and projected to reach hurricane strength by Tuesday.

He was confident the Corps had done all it could to repair and reinforce 220 miles of levee walls, but he conceded he couldn't be sure whether the system would withstand Ernesto if reached Category 3 status and struck near New Orleans, as Katrina did Aug. 29, 2005.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,210605,00.html


20 posted on 08/26/2006 10:46:00 AM PDT by nwctwx (Everything I need to know, I learned on the Threat Matrix)
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To: mom4kittys

"Like water for chocolate"?


21 posted on 08/26/2006 10:47:20 AM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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To: nwctwx

Thanks!


22 posted on 08/26/2006 10:47:42 AM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: mom4kittys
Bush's fault.
23 posted on 08/26/2006 10:48:14 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: mom4kittys
Hurricane Ernesto is coming!

The article says it's not a hurricane yet

24 posted on 08/26/2006 10:48:59 AM PDT by Mo1 (Bolton- "No one has explained how you negotiate a ceasefire with terrorists")
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To: mom4kittys

What do you expect.White people build them that way out of spite to make black people miserable when the hurricanes come.


25 posted on 08/26/2006 10:49:43 AM PDT by Uncle Meat
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To: mom4kittys

Hi,,From the curve Earnesto is taking the "Eye-Strike"
will be the Louisiana coast Cat 3 , Sept 3rd or so .
The mess Katrina left is still sitting rite where it was,,
I saw some pics a friend took,,,the mess goes on for miles.
Insurance CO.'s won't pay off etc. What I worry about is
the Port Fourchon oil port,,,20% of all the oil and 30%
of the natural gas comes through there!!!!!!
For the Whole Country !!! Get Ready $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.


26 posted on 08/26/2006 10:50:42 AM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: nralife

Southern Mississipi got wasted via Katrina yet they are rebuilding with a lot less moaning about it. New Orleans has been given so much aid and attention yet all this ungrateful yelping from there is disgusting. The nerve to cry 'racism'? Millions of generous Americans gave of their resources to help Katrina victims and this is the thanks they get? Next time y'all are on your own...complain away your lives or face reality.


27 posted on 08/26/2006 10:51:03 AM PDT by tflabo (Take authority that's ours)
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To: kinoxi

The thousands who call this home thank you for your kind wishes. I hope you have as much fun when tornadoes wipe out communities in the midwest too.


28 posted on 08/26/2006 10:51:55 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: mom4kittys

Is there any reason it would "hold up" to another hurricane? They're just levees and flood walls, not dams. They'll help with flooding but they will not prevent it. Best bet is still to go to high ground...before the hurricane hits. Before being the operative word there.


29 posted on 08/26/2006 10:52:06 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: ClearBlueSky
Too much of the city is underwater to safely rebuild. I went down there last winter thinking of investing in NO. The animosity and reckless behavior of the government (local) made me sick.
There is a big difference between a sporadic tornado and building below sea level.
30 posted on 08/26/2006 10:56:49 AM PDT by kinoxi
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To: mom4kittys

I understand that. Since the Corps said it, it should have been reliable information. But now it's time to cut losses. We should not send good money after bad. New Orleans is illogically located. It's time to let go. It's a lot like the huge floods in the Midwest a few years back: Move to high, safe ground if you want to be insured agaginst loss. If you stay in the flood plain, expect to cover your own losses. Don't expect taxpayers to do it for you. ["you" = residents of NO]


31 posted on 08/26/2006 10:58:00 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Only a fool creates ill will unnecessarily.)
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To: mom4kittys
Has the Corps considered driving local politicians into the ground for piles? At least then they'd be good for something.
32 posted on 08/26/2006 10:58:03 AM PDT by RichInOC ("What time is it?" "I dunno." "Time...to unpimp ze city!" *THUMP!**THUMP**THUMP!**THUMP!**THUMP!*)
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To: ClearBlueSky

Ya'll come on up to Shreveport,,,We Got Room !!!
Be outta there before Aug 31st to be safe !!!


33 posted on 08/26/2006 10:59:16 AM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Mo1

Sorry! You are right.


34 posted on 08/26/2006 11:00:29 AM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: ClearBlueSky
I hope you have as much fun when tornadoes wipe out communities in the midwest too.
It's not the same situation, and you know it. If you're a NO resident, I know you love the place. I respect that. Go ahead. Live there. Just don't ask taxpayers to enable you to do it.
35 posted on 08/26/2006 11:01:03 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Only a fool creates ill will unnecessarily.)
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To: mom4kittys

Oh boy, another opportunity for 'reconstruction' bid-rigging, self-dealing, and graft is coming!


36 posted on 08/26/2006 11:02:05 AM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: mom4kittys

Negative elevation bump


37 posted on 08/26/2006 11:10:49 AM PDT by clyde asbury (Let's get married and have babies. Just kidding.)
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To: John Jorsett

This time park the buses on the high ground with the keys in them.


38 posted on 08/26/2006 11:11:55 AM PDT by jocko12
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To: mom4kittys
I understand and agree with how you feel, but in reality the majority of the devastaion was caused by faulty levees that we were told over and over again were Category 3 proof.

That's true for the City of New Orleans, but that was only a fraction of the total devestation caused by Katrina.

THere was St. Bernard Parish, Slidell,LA, and in Mississippi, Bay St. Louis, Waveland, Long Beach, Pass Christian, Gulfport, Biloxi, etc. That was pure hurricane and storm surge that did that. And the vast majority of those victims were hard-working, honest people who have literally lost everything.

I pray that the entire Gulf Coast is spared anymore hurricanes for a long time. It's not looking very good with a hurricane headed there now though.

39 posted on 08/26/2006 11:11:56 AM PDT by alnick
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To: mom4kittys

40 posted on 08/26/2006 11:12:41 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (If you don't love Jesus, you can go to hell.)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
I saw some pics a friend took,,,the mess goes on for miles.

Yes, hundreds of miles. It's breathtaking.

41 posted on 08/26/2006 11:13:50 AM PDT by alnick
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To: nhoward14

LOOTERDUDE LIVES!!!!!!!!!!!


42 posted on 08/26/2006 11:14:51 AM PDT by shankbear
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Oh wait. Are those the buses the Cocao Puff Nagin forgot about? I wonder if they have been replaced or repaired so they will be ready to sit there if another storm hits?


43 posted on 08/26/2006 11:18:39 AM PDT by shankbear
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To: operation clinton cleanup

No - they just found a richer gravy-train elsewhere. But they are rapidly wearing out their welcome in many of the towns they went to.

And no, I'm not trying to say that ALL of those forced from NO are like that, but an unfortunately large percentage are.


44 posted on 08/26/2006 11:19:36 AM PDT by TheBattman (Islam (and liberalism)- the cult of a Cancer on Society)
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To: Clara Lou

Ah- but you're wrong.
I am a New Orleans resident( Jefferson Parish, actually). My ancestors founded the place, but I've never loved it. I am stuck here because of finances and family decisions. When we evacuated for Katrina, if we had had nothing to come back to it would have been scary, and a hardship in many ways, but emotionally hurtful? no.
The point is there are people who DO feel love for the place. No matter how bad home is, some love it anyway. Some are in my position. You don't WISH bad on people. It might happen- it might be supposed to happen- but you don't glory in it. What crime did people commit to deserve death and destruction? Grow up and live in a place?
Does this line of thinking apply to all communities on the Gulf Coast, how about L.A. and Frisco, or is it New Orleans that is particularly hated?
I can't believe I'm here defending the place, when I've never liked it ! I agree with all points on it being a stupid place to have a city- but the buzzards circling when people are still living here( for many reasons other than stupidity) is just hideous.
I, personally, won't miss it if it is ever wiped out. All that matters is that my loved ones, and a few possessions I value, survive. But I know many would mourn,and I am empathetic enough not to wish more death and destruction on them. Gods will will be done, and I am asking Him to have mercy on the Gulf Coast.


45 posted on 08/26/2006 11:20:48 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: tflabo
Southern Mississipi got wasted via Katrina yet they are rebuilding with a lot less moaning about it. New Orleans has been given so much aid and attention yet all this ungrateful yelping from there is disgusting.

Yes, it's disgusting. I hate that the whining trash have blackened the reputations of everyone who was devestated by Katrina, which probably outnumber the lowlife types who've taken such advantage of the situation.

I also resent that the news media have virtually ignored all but the ghetto residents of New Orleans when reporting on "Katrina victims."

Even in the immediate aftermath of the storm. I lived north of Lake Pontchartrain in Slidell, and remember my family gathered around the television set at my aunt's house in Tennessee where we had evacuated to trying to find out about what happened to our city. There was almost no mention on the news about Slidell.

Since my aunt did not have access to the internet, it took a few days before I could get my hands on a computer to get online and try to find out what happened back home, or if we even had homes to return to.

As it turned out, about half my city was destroyed by storm surge, and it took a couple more weeks of going to the library daily and haunting message boards online to get some info about our subdivisions, and even then we weren't really sure what we would find when we returned home.

Fortunately, the flood waters stopped about a mile from my house and literally in the front yard of my parents' house, so neither house got water, but there was quite a bit of tree damage. Everywhere. I've never seen anything like it and hope I never do again.

46 posted on 08/26/2006 11:22:50 AM PDT by alnick
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To: alnick

Thank You for your Prayers,,Oil Production in the Gulf
will start Shutting Down Monday to be safe. The direction Earnesto's Eye-Strike is coming from will hit Port Fourchon
Grand Isle from the south,south west.


47 posted on 08/26/2006 11:22:53 AM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: tflabo
"Next time y'all are on your own...complain away your lives or face reality."



What makes you think I live in New Orleans? Or have ever lived there? I agree, Nagin, Blanco, and Landrieu are all incompetent idiots. I think the saying about not judging a book by it cover fits here nicely. Granted, Nagin was voted back in. The alternative in the runoff was between him and Mitch Landrieu. Some choice, eh?
48 posted on 08/26/2006 11:24:07 AM PDT by nralife
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

As the post below yours indicates - the rest of the Gulf Coast is working hard to rebuild and clean-up with FAR less bellyaching than NO. Yes, those areas still have some major work ahead, but most of those evacuees have returned home and are WORKING.

Compare that to the NO area. A huge percentage have not returned, most expressing that they don't plan too (richer gravy train elsewhere). Lost of areas that have essentially gone un-touched and are still just as disgusting as when the water first went down (maybe not much different than the pre-hurricane condition?). The residents of NO are waiting for big-brother gubmint to come in and just "fix" everything, then hand them the keys to their new homes....

Quite frankly - after a year, those that really were interested in rebuilding NO should have made a LOT more progress than has been made. My sympathy quickly dried up.

As far as the oil port - that is a bit of a different story, and likely isn't as in danger as NO itself. But any serious damage to that facility could be a problem to consumers...


49 posted on 08/26/2006 11:25:37 AM PDT by TheBattman (Islam (and liberalism)- the cult of a Cancer on Society)
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To: operation clinton cleanup

A large number of the NO residents living in Houston just had their electricity turned off, more scheduled for next month.


50 posted on 08/26/2006 11:26:20 AM PDT by Ditter
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