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Max Cleland plans pro-Murtha rally -- the day before VFTT's Boot Murtha Rally in Johnstown, PA
BootMurtha.com ^ | 8/26/2006 | IPWGOP

Posted on 08/26/2006 11:36:20 AM PDT by IPWGOP

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To: Coop; Interesting Times; Calpernia; Alouette; SJackson; Beckwith; Bahbah; M. Espinola; SandRat; ...

BUMP.....'deploying Murtha' will send a resounding message!

Everyone who cares about our brave military who are fighting to preserve our freedom should help Diana Irey win in November!


51 posted on 08/26/2006 1:07:27 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (Go Katherine "ALL your base are belong to us." Go here: http://www.ElectHarris.org)
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To: JerseyDvl
Sorry -- it would hit me in a totally negative way. Cleland's rally will attract The Code Pink, Cindy Sheehan, Michael Moore crowd, which is the antithesis of District 12's political values.
52 posted on 08/26/2006 1:10:04 PM PDT by IPWGOP (I'm Linda Eddy, and I am the webmaster for www.bootmurtha.com)
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To: IPWGOP; Coop; smoothsailing; W04Man; USN SIGNL MAN; jazusamo; WeDontKnowJack; xzins; CMS; ...
Diana Irey is a real American Patriot!
She's all over the phony cut and run murtha.
Every vet in America needs to back her and sign up for the Veterans Roll Call
The only "vets" who wouldn't would be the "vets" who supported hanoi harry.
All a real vet has to do is "sign" his/her real name.
Branch of Service
Dates of Service
Your State
Your e-mail address
Any other info is optional

REAL Vets, on other forums, where support for Diana Irey is not allowed
can post their info here and the liberal forums won't even know.
Nor will FR even know.

Why would a REAL vet NOT sign the Veterans Roll Call?
Time for REAL Vets to stand Proud and Tall for our men and women on active duty now!


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Murtha sides up with Code Pink

Code Pink has given $650,000 to the terrorists in Fallujah, participated in war crimes tribunals against America and has called American soldiers "killers" on their website among many treasonous actions. They display signs like "Maimed for a Lie" at Walter Reed Army Medical Center where wounded troops are healing.
Text of Code Pink's statement on meeting Rep. Murtha:
Thank You Congressman Murtha! CODEPINK co-founder Gael Murphy and DC coordinator Allison Yorra met with Congressman Murtha to thank him for his courageous stand on Iraq. We presented him with our pink badge of courage and pink flowers sent by CODEPINK members nationwide.


Murtha's "Cut & Run" Comments on Iraq:

"there's no progress at all"

"it's worse than it was prewar"

"we should immediatley redeploy"

"War cannot be won on the ground"

"I have said it's a civil war"

"We cannot win this militarily. Our tactics themselves keep us from winning,"

Murtha's Comments on our Troops:

"Would you join (the military) today?," he was asked in an interview. "No," replied Murtha

"And I think you're saying the average guy out there who's considering recruitment is justified in saying 'I don't want to serve'," the interviewer continued. "Exactly right," said Murtha

"we have become a catalyst for violence" in Iraq

Marines "killed innocent civilians in cold blood." at Haditha

"I will not excuse murder, and this is what happened"

"This is worse than Abu Ghraib"

"Hopefully, this is an isolated incident. But we're supposed to be selling ideas of America, ideals of America, and we're losing that war."

"These kind of things have to be brought out immediately," he told "This Week," "because if the Marines got away with it, other Marines might think it's okay."

"What they're saying to me is we're stretching the military too thin. The army is broken, and we couldn't deploy to a second front if we wanted to."

"The troops don't know what to do. They don't have the direction they need in order to supervise the prisoners,"



"The willingness with which our young people are likely to serve in any war, no matter how justified,
shall be directly proportional as to how they perceive the veterans of earlier wars
were treated and appreciated by their nation."

-- President George Washington --

"Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale and
undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled, or hanged."

-- President Abraham Lincoln --


Guide to Local Media
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http://www.irey.com
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http://vets4irey.com
AND
http://www.bootmurtha.com


Locate media in your zip code, gives you links to
YOUR local media with phone, e-mail etc info.


53 posted on 08/26/2006 1:15:15 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Support the troops by exposing the threats to them like hanoi kerry, cut and run murtha, Code Pink,)
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To: Grampa Dave; Coop; StarCMC

Proud Member

Veterans' Radical Right Wing Forces

54 posted on 08/26/2006 1:20:05 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: Coop

I agree. talk is cheap. Problem is, the American people are asleep at the wheel, and one of our major political (Democrat) parties is an enemy agent.


55 posted on 08/26/2006 1:23:01 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: IPWGOP

Thanks for the reply, it is heartening to know the district frowns upon those sicko commie types.
It is strange that I even have to write a sentence like the one above. As long as the Murtha's and Lamont's get votes though, we have to acknowledge the enemy among us.
I think Diana Irey is the perfect candidate to take this louse on and pray for her success.


56 posted on 08/26/2006 1:23:20 PM PDT by JerseyDvl ("If you attack Americans, we'll defend your right to do it."- The Democrat Party)
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To: Just A Nobody

The top photo?


57 posted on 08/26/2006 1:27:14 PM PDT by top 2 toe red (To the enemy in Iraq..."Don't bet on American politics forcing my hand!" President Bush)
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To: dirtboy

What, winning his own district or winning the majority leadership?

Until recently you would have to say that Murtha was a good bet to win reelection. (Unopposed in '04, winning 74% in '02)...

My sense of it is that there is an assumption that unless there is dissatisfaction with the leadership (or some other circumstance such as the whip losing election, or the whip moving up to Speaker just as the leader retires (Gingrich '95), that the standing whip moves up to leader unless the whip doesn't want the position. Now why would the Democratic caucus be dissatisfied with its leadership if it got majority status?

Take a look at recent leaders:

2003 Pelosi (was whip)
1989 Gephardt (Coelho resigned under scandal)
1987 Foley (was whip)
1977 Wright (whip McFall defeated in home district)
1973 O'Neill (was whip)
1971 Boggs (was whip)
1961 Albert (was whip)
1955 McCormick (was whip)

Hmmm...I see a pattern here. My guess is that Steny Hoyer will be the next leader should the post become available.
This does not mean that Murtha cannot campaign for the slot, although I can understand Pelosi et al. telling him to cool it.

On the Republican side, yes, 2006 Boehner is an exception.
I don't remember Leslie Arends, whip 1955-75. So far as I can figure he never sought the leadership. Halleck, Ford, and Rhodes leapfrogged him in any case.



58 posted on 08/26/2006 1:31:14 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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59 posted on 08/26/2006 1:32:23 PM PDT by Gucho
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To: IPWGOP
Bump!

I have my new hat all made up for this rally, maybe I should come up a day early and take in the other one first? I'm sure it will be safe for me, all the Pinkos know me already.


60 posted on 08/26/2006 1:41:21 PM PDT by W04Man (Bush2004 Grassroots Campaign We Did It! NOW.... PLEASE STAY THE COURSE!)
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To: W04Man

Now THAT'll get attention!!


61 posted on 08/26/2006 1:46:59 PM PDT by IPWGOP (I'm Linda Eddy, and I am the webmaster for www.bootmurtha.com)
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To: Coop
No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!

Yes but their are on the way the voters see the war in Iraq. The following results are from the National Journal Poll conducted 08/17/06.

When asked if they thought the war in Iraq is part of the greater war on terror 53 percent of the likely voters said YES; only 42 percent said NO and 5 percent were undecided.
When asked if we should withdraw our troops from Iraq only 22 percent of likely voters said YES.

What does that say? Twenty of the 42 percent who think the war in Iraq is not part of the greater war on terror think Cut and Run is a bad policy. Cut and run has only 22 percent support among likely voters.

Those numbers have to scare anyone who is contemplating supporting Murtha. But on the other hand that 22 percent who wants to cut and run is about 55 percent of the Democrats who will vote in the primaries in 2008.

Murtha and perhaps an even larger number of Democrats face a problem with no solution. Cut and Run costs them the moderate Democrats and moderates needed to win. However Stay the Course costs them the liberal base that is needed to win.

What I think is this years big political story is being totally ignored by the media. The Democratic party is split down the middle. And taking either side loses the votes needed to win. Worst of all avoiding the issue will not be allowed by moveon.org. They are demanding that Democrats take a stand on a losing issue.

That is what you call a lose-lose situation.

62 posted on 08/26/2006 1:47:10 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: Common Tator

Excellent post CT, it reflects common sense which the Dem left is happily lacking.


63 posted on 08/26/2006 1:53:33 PM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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To: JulieRNR21

BTTT


64 posted on 08/26/2006 2:00:45 PM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks

Hi kat.....nice to see you posting!


65 posted on 08/26/2006 2:06:40 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (Go Katherine "ALL your base are belong to us." Go here: http://www.ElectHarris.org)
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To: JulieRNR21
Hi Julie, I post mostly on here now, except for some bttts for a good cause.
67 posted on 08/26/2006 2:17:37 PM PDT by kattracks
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To: IPWGOP
U.S. Rep. John P. Murtha (D-Pa.), who is coming under attack from "radical right-wing forces in the veterans' community" aimed at "swift-boating" Murtha

Shouldn't that be "swift-BOOTing?"

In any case isn't "swift-boating" getting the truth out about a candidate? So why is that a bad thing?

68 posted on 08/26/2006 2:19:54 PM PDT by etlib (No creature without tentacles has ever developed true intelligence)
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To: IPWGOP
With all due respect to the "bootmurtha" folks. I think "Redeploy Murtha" has a better ring to it and at the same time highlights his weak policy.
69 posted on 08/26/2006 2:22:58 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: kattracks

Good place to be.

Take a look at posts 15 & 16 on this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1687697/posts

And go here:

http://www.capecod4thetroops.com


70 posted on 08/26/2006 2:23:53 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (Go Katherine "ALL your base are belong to us." Go here: http://www.ElectHarris.org)
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To: Tinian
And the purpose of this long post is ...?

Perhaps to show that Ann Coulter is right about Dems using Messengers who can't be disputed because of some life tragedy? In this case a Senator elected only because he lost limbs in Vietnam rather than his positions on issues.

71 posted on 08/26/2006 2:24:31 PM PDT by etlib (No creature without tentacles has ever developed true intelligence)
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To: Common Tator
Murtha and perhaps an even larger number of Democrats face a problem with no solution. Cut and Run costs them the moderate Democrats and moderates needed to win. However Stay the Course costs them the liberal base that is needed to win.

I totally agree with you.

72 posted on 08/26/2006 2:30:32 PM PDT by IPWGOP (I'm Linda Eddy, and I am the webmaster for www.bootmurtha.com)
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To: smokeyb

bump


73 posted on 08/26/2006 2:31:57 PM PDT by Badray (While defending the land called America, we must also be sure to preserve the Idea called America.)
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To: Coop
"During his 37 years serving in the United States Marine Corps, Jack Murtha led his brothers in arms with integrity and honor," Cleland said.
He continued, "Semper Fi is not a slogan to Jack Murtha, it's a way of life - in uniform and in the halls of Congress.....

In uniform?
11-17-05: It is evident that continued military action in Iraq is not in the best interest of the United States of America, the Iraqi people or the Persian Gulf Region.
My plan calls to immediately redeploy U.S. troops

12-2-05: Most U.S. troops will leave Iraq within a year because the Army is "broken, worn out" and "living hand to mouth," Rep. John Murtha told a civic group.

1-15-06: Murtha tells 60 Minutes that mounting pressure from constituents in this election year will force Congress to pass his withdrawal plan, or something similar to bring troops home.
Does Murtha think Congress is going to insist upon a major withdrawal from Iraq before election day in November?
"Sure," he says. "You’re gonna see a plan for withdrawal."

5-18-06: EX-marine John Murtha has taken the extraordinary step of accusing U.S. Marines of war crimes before a joint NCIS/Multi-National Forces investigation has been completed of an incident that occurred on November 19, 2005.

5-19-06: BLITZER: The marines say they're still investigating. They don't know what happened yet. The pentagon says the same thing. How do you know what happened?
MURTHA: Wolf, you read the "Time" magazine articles. There are pictures, there are photos. You don't have to talk to the military about the proof.
"There was no firefight. There was no IED that killed these innocent people. Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them, and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood," said Murtha, Judge, Jury and Executioner.

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In CONgress???
Who is "Kit" Murtha? "He's John Murtha's brother -- a Washington lobbyist whose firm reeled in more than $20 million for its defense contractor clients in the 2004 Defense appropriations bill. And the Pennsylvania congressman is the ranking Democrat on the Defense appropriations subcommittee, which he also chaired for six years before Democrats lost the House in 1994. "

6-21-06: Murtha "reportedly leaned on U.S. Navy officials to sign a contract to transfer the Hunters Point Shipyard to the city of San Francisco." Laurence Pelosi, nephew of House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, at the time was an executive of the company which
The same article also reported how Mr. Murtha has been behind millions of dollars worth of earmarks in defense appropriations bills that went to companies owned by the children of fellow Pennsylvania Democrat, Rep. Paul Kanjorski.
Meanwhile, the Center for Responsive Politics, a nonpartisan campaign-finance watchdog group, lists Mr. Murtha as the top recipient of defense industry dollars in the current 2006 election cycle.
http://washingtontimes.com/op-ed/20060620-083859-8753r.htm

_______________________________________________________________________________________


where he's put the full force of his unyielding support of our military into real leadership for our troops and military families for over three decades in Washington.

Oh yes.....I see REAL leadership and support here.

3-19-03: "I'm a little more nervous this time because of the threat of chemical and biological weapons and because there will possibly be fighting in the streets," Murtha said.

"To put it bluntly, it was handled badly," Murtha said of the current situation. "We should have had the allies lined up first before we pursued this. But our troops are there; it's hard to stop the momentum."

(Question: Was 3-19-03 the first day of the OIF which he was already tauting as "handled badly"?)

late ’04 or early ’05: "A premature withdrawal of our troops based on a political timetable could rapidly devolve into a civil war which would leave America’s foreign policy in disarray as countries question not only America’s judgment but also its perseverance." John Murtha
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05324/609608.stm

11-18-05: "Our troops have become the primary target of the insurgency," Murtha said in a Capitol news conference that left him in tears. Islamic insurgents "are united against U.S. forces, and we have become a catalyst for violence," he said. ". . . It's time to bring them home." Murtha

3-5-06: MR. SCHIEFFER: Now, I want to make sure I understand. I mean, I think I understand what you're saying, but you're talking about a Marine, and here you are an ex-Marine -- this is a military man. This is not somebody, some civilian out there at the Pentagon. You're saying you no longer believe what Marine General Peter Pace says when he says he thinks things are going well.

REP. MURTHA: That's exactly right. Why would I believe him

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There's a reason why Congressman Murtha is one of our most trusted voices on national security and America's standing in the world

When did he become "one of our most trusted voices on national security and America's standing in the world" Max? Until November 18, 2005, most of America and 99.9% of the "world" had never heard of this blowhard.

- he speaks his mind, he speaks his heart, and he's willing to speak truth to power."
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74 posted on 08/26/2006 2:33:54 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: etlib
In any case isn't "swift-boating" getting the truth out about a candidate? So why is that a bad thing?

Depends on what your definition is "is" is...

(couldn't resist...)

Liberals love to mess with definitions when they're caught with their pants down, don't they?

75 posted on 08/26/2006 2:35:24 PM PDT by IPWGOP (I'm Linda Eddy, and I am the webmaster for www.bootmurtha.com)
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To: top 2 toe red

;*) Love your tag!


76 posted on 08/26/2006 2:41:34 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: W04Man
THAT is a gorgeous hat!

maybe I should come up a day early and take in the other one first? I'm sure it will be safe for me, all the Pinkos know me already.

I was thinking the exact same thing!!! I still have my sign.....see you there!

77 posted on 08/26/2006 2:43:18 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
I agree. talk is cheap. Problem is, the American people are asleep at the wheel, and one of our major political (Democrat) parties is an enemy agent.

And that's not going to change unless they see Murtha defeated and humiliated this November. And he's not going to be defeated unless a lot of us take a stand.

78 posted on 08/26/2006 2:45:15 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Common Tator
That is what you call a lose-lose situation.

As long as it is on the DemonRAT side, I like it!

79 posted on 08/26/2006 2:46:21 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: etlib
In any case isn't "swift-boating" getting the truth out about a candidate?

YES!
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So why is that a bad thing?

It's not, unless YOU are the one being "swiftboated" ;*)

80 posted on 08/26/2006 2:51:58 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: Just A Nobody; etlib; StarCMC; airborne; mware; onyx
Remember, our "hawkish, decorated combat veterans" are hallowed resources, and their opinions are irrefutable.

Unless said hawkish, decorated combat veterans are criticizing a Dem politician. Then they're radicals who must be silenced.

81 posted on 08/26/2006 2:55:31 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Coop

I read the headline and I am too mad to talk right now.
Will ask husband for money for Irey.


82 posted on 08/26/2006 2:58:20 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" only 10% are radical, that's 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: IPWGOP

Is he going to whine and say his patriotism was questioned by those Republicans?


83 posted on 08/26/2006 3:03:42 PM PDT by stratman1969 (CLINTON LIED - 3,000+ DIED)
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To: stratman1969; smokeyb; etlib; IPWGOP; RedRover; tflabo; HarleyLady27; justiceseeker93; ...
It's been over three months -- so what?
84 posted on 08/26/2006 3:09:22 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: onyx

Thanks for channeling your anger into something constructive.


85 posted on 08/26/2006 3:10:09 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: stratman1969
Is he going to whine and say his patriotism was questioned by those Republicans?

You can absolutely count on it.

86 posted on 08/26/2006 3:16:27 PM PDT by IPWGOP (I'm Linda Eddy, and I am the webmaster for www.bootmurtha.com)
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To: Coop

BTTT

I was watching Fox News today (I hate it when I forget the news guys' names) and he was going to do a segment where someone was accused of "swiftboating Murtha." I laughed out loud. I guess "swiftboating" someone means that you stand up and tell someone they are lying their butts off and don't have the leadership skills that they want everyone to think they have by telling the truth as it is and not letting their lies, innuendo and half-truths pass as Truth. At least that's what it means to me! So by all means, if there's a "leader" who ain't fit, swiftboat 'em. I'd think that's quite a compliment!!


87 posted on 08/26/2006 3:19:29 PM PDT by StarCMC ("So what was the price to betray us - Judas?" - SGT Mark Russak to Traitor Murtha)
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To: Grampa Dave

Thanks GD!


88 posted on 08/26/2006 3:27:23 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: etlib
And the purpose of this long post is ...?

Perhaps to show that Ann Coulter is right about Dems using Messengers who can't be disputed because of some life tragedy? In this case a Senator elected only because he lost limbs in Vietnam rather than his positions on issues.

Exactly.

His injuries and rehab had to be horrible, but the truth is he was a victim of carelessness (like any industrial accident) rather than combat. Yet the Democrats (literally) roll him out as if he is a combat hero for every election.

89 posted on 08/26/2006 3:28:43 PM PDT by Tinian
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

I signed and sent an invitation to my list for them to sign and forward the invite to their lists too.


90 posted on 08/26/2006 3:37:16 PM PDT by Badray (While defending the land called America, we must also be sure to preserve the Idea called America.)
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To: Coop
I'm proud to be a member of these radical forces.

So am I!

91 posted on 08/26/2006 3:39:15 PM PDT by CDB ("They shall fall by the sword: they shall be a portion for foxes." Psalm 63 (excerpts)
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To: Badray

Bump


92 posted on 08/26/2006 3:39:46 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Just A Nobody
That's one of the ugliest pigs I've ever seen.

Which one?

93 posted on 08/26/2006 3:41:26 PM PDT by CDB ("They shall fall by the sword: they shall be a portion for foxes." Psalm 63 (excerpts)
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To: CDB

Great! Are you coming to the 1 Oct rally?


94 posted on 08/26/2006 3:41:48 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: IPWGOP; jazusamo; smoothsailing
Heard anything from today's "Support the Troops" Rolling Thunder rally? For those not aware, Diana Irey appeared and spoke there, and Boot Murtha had a display set up (I think).
95 posted on 08/26/2006 3:44:26 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Tinian

Our former Georgia Senator had an "industrial accident"; Army talk is "FRAGGED". My sources say he was less than courageous on the DMV and got airlifted out, thinking his platoon men all dead. They weren't. Nuff said. Let smarter people than me put the puzzle together.

Bottom line, Max Cleland and Murtha served. God knows how they live with their guilt.


96 posted on 08/26/2006 3:51:09 PM PDT by Broker (Recondo!)
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To: Broker

Back up your claim. Otherwise, save it for the gossip corner. This thread is about Jack Murtha's despicable behavior, and veterans rallying for or against it.


97 posted on 08/26/2006 3:53:16 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: IPWGOP

"swift-boating "

Swiftboating: - Exposing the lies, deceit and fraud of self-glorifying public officials or candidates for public office who exaggerate their military service by lying about their feats of heroism and combat wounds. (from Boothmurtha.com)

Yeah, that's it to a T.


98 posted on 08/26/2006 3:58:49 PM PDT by mbennett203 ("Bulrog, a tough brute ninja who has dedicated his life to eradicating the world from hippies.")
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To: IPWGOP

keep him away from your grenades. apparently, he drops them.


100 posted on 08/26/2006 4:08:29 PM PDT by jw777
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