[Katherine]Harris' religion comments draw fire

Sarasota Herald Tribune ^ | 8/27/06

[dukeman]

In the scheme of things this is not as big as it makes out to be, considering the small voting block you point out I dont think they would vote for Harris as they concentrated in South Florida and are devoted liberals.

Part of what Harris is doing here is appealing to conservative dems who live in north Florida and particularly in the panhandle. These are the folks who went for Bush in 2000 and 2004 and they enjoyed seeing her hold up that possum two weeks ago at the possum festival. They are light years apart from the northeastern lib transplants who inhabit southeast Florida. The national dems are totally flummoxed by the idea that a registered dem could vote for a Republican and they trip over it every time.

BTW, your comments on this thread make the most sense and I started this damn thing!

[dukeman]

They [Jews] have enough reason to vote Republican, evidenced in the threats Israel is facing and Republicans being the most committed to the security of the nation( Israel and America).

I lurk over on DU fairly frequently. You would not believe how the anti-Semite knives came out over there when the IDF went after Hezbollah. DU had its own civil war. I saw many posts by Jewish DUers seriously questioning their desire to associate any longer with the other moonbats.

[BykrBayb]

If I want the Taliban, I'll go to the Midle East.

Maybe it would do you good to spend some time living under the rule of the Taliban. Then you can come back and repeat that statement. Tell us how difficult it is to see the difference between Christians and Taliban. Unless your head comes back before the rest of you.

[BykrBayb]

Our Constitution specifically forbids selecting politicians based on any religious test.

Since when am I forbidden to consider a politician's religion when deciding who to vote for? I must have missed that Constitutional Amendment. Can you give me a breakdown of who voted for and against it? Am I allowed to use their voting records, even on issues involving religion, in deciding my vote? Are there any loopholes? Can I vote against a politician who voted for that amendment, using the excuse that they altered the Constitution, thereby skirting the whole religion issue?

[bjs1779]

>Maybe it would do you good to spend some time living under the rule of the Taliban.



I hope we can save this person in time.

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[BykrBayb]

Maybe you mention the fact that it was not Christians doing the sawing. Some people have a hard time telling the difference.

[bjs1779]

Maybe you mention the fact that it was not Christians doing the sawing. Some people have a hard time telling the difference

I thought the sound track was enough.

[BykrBayb]

It was more than enough for me, but then, I know the difference between Talibans and Christians. Anyone who hates all things Christian might think they were singing hymns, as it all sound the same to them.

[bjs1779]

It was more than enough for me, but then, I know the difference between Talibans and Christians. Anyone who hates all things Christian might think they were singing hymns, as it all sound the same to them.

Don't worry, they are hard at work to get that post deleted.

[BykrBayb]

I wouldn't doubt it. Some people forgot 9/11 on 9/12, and they want us all to forget what's happening now, before it's even over.

[LowOiL]

She should run for office in Iran. I'ts more her style.

Wow, the Jesusphobes have came out in full force.

Jesus said, "Blessed is he who is not offended because of Me" (Mat. 11:6; Luke 7:23).

Why don't you just nail her to the cross buddy?

Jesus promised his followers, "you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake. And then many will be offended" (Mat. 24:9-10).

She would have my vote in a heart beat if I could. You can vote your bloodthirsty taliban state godless society in if you wish.

Gentiles (as symbols of the godless) and sodomites are called "dogs" in the Bible (Mat. 7:6; 15:26; Deut. 23:17-18; Ps. 22:16; 59:5-6; Phil. 3:2; Rev. 22:15). Perhaps I should scream and shout about it to the Jews on this forum for dare letting Jews think such of us.... Perhaps I should (and I do) understand that our rightousness and such, we are dogs and filthy rags to Jesus. But He loves us anyway... He loves the Jews, the lowest of society people, and cared so much for us that he died on the cross for our sins (everyone that will come to him). Even Jesus called us dogs (lap dogs) in Matthew when dealing with the woman that would not let him alone, but her faith (which he called great) pervailed. Jesus had bread for his children (the Jews) but found that us gentiles were happy to just have the scraps that fall from the table.

Talk about a group that whines when given the full loaf, and how even the scraps were worthy of great praise. Heck, any fool will see that when Jesus breaks bread and shares it, baskets of it are left over. Twice this was demostrated in the NT.

Perhaps the Jews are screaming because they fear Christians hate them? Huh... I know of no other religion that purely and simply says "BE ISRAELS FRIEND" or else. No other group has supported Israel as soundly as Christians, even after being spit on continually (as this thread has shown). No other religion says to let unbelievers alone (other than to preach to them), as far as religious tolerance goes, you can't beat a Christian. Yes, they will not be shut up, but as far a forcing their religion on others, our very Constitution shows that Christians don't care to to that, God wants people to come to Him of their own free will.

We just saw two Fox reporters that were FORCED to covert for show anyways (though, no one can really force your heart to do what it doesn't want to do), and you want to draw parrallels between the two. Civil words fail me sir. Jesus called people "fools" but never without reason. You give a good case for reason.

[LowOiL]

Correction...

He loves the Jews, the lowest of society people

It should read (in keeping of my theme of Jesus calling us gentiles "dogs")... He loves the Jews, AND the lowest of society people (Us Gentiles)...

Christians respect the Jews far better than we have been treated by them, and for good reason, we know Jesus was a Jew and that they were His choosen people they followed Him.

[DoctorMichael]

....God and the nation's founding fathers did not intend the country be "a nation of secular laws".....

.....and Thomas Jefferson?

[floriduh voter]

Moses was Jewish and I think he knew something about sin too. Sin is heavy, especially on big stone tablets.

[floriduh voter]

Your posts are so true. I can't believe all the liberal style arguments we are faced with at FR in this election cycle.

When it's GOP v. GOP, it's nastier than we are just here bashing all the democrat candidates.

If the GOP doesn't recognize that their base has a problem with republicans in name only, their base is going to walk out, like walking out of a bad marriage.

[floriduh voter]

Attention freepers: I do not worship Katherine Harris. I admire her that she's been through a lot this year with her father passing away and the media making her life a living hell.

She's still standing. She has stayed the course. Who's afraid of freedom of religion? Friends of the Constitution, Katherine Harris enjoys freedom of religion too and she's an inclusive person and this article is just another attempt of the media to SMEAR HER.

[LowOiL]

.....and Thomas Jefferson?

Good grief Doctor... you have been here long enough to read more than one tiny sound bit from TJ to know that he didn't want a secular America anymore than the rest did. When not tromping around Europe, his very actions and words proved it..

Here is just a small tidbit of threads on FR about this...

America is a Christian Nation?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1192745/posts

Religion and the Constitution (Kinda long but it's an important subject)

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b1e98126aee.htm

Scalia: Church-state separation didn't protect Jews in Holocaust

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1313826/posts

THE BIG LIBERAL LIE (Separation of Church and State)

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a54a9ed63d1.htm

The Mythical "Wall of Separation": How a Misused Metaphor Changed Church–State Law . . .

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1655028/posts

William Rehnquist totally destroys "Separation of Church and State" myth

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/971381/posts

My personal favorite is from a local long timer here on FR... Ohioan... He has a book called the "Conservative Debate Handbook" (I liked it so well I bought it)... Chapter three..

Leftist Word Games & The First Amendment Guarantee of Religious Freedom

Great Read if truly concerned about how the left misleads you on TJ

Love his use of Thomas Jefferson quotes in the above article.. Love how simply beautiful he puts things in perspective.

[TradicalRC]

The Costitution of the United States of America says she is wrong. Read it someday (Article IV and Amendment I).

I did. Am I missing something?

[DoctorMichael]

I went through your first citation and could not find either:
1) That Jefferson was a Christian (in the sense that Ms. Harris is)
2) That Jefferson either intended, or did not intend, the country be "a nation of secular laws".

However, I did find this:

"Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law."
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814

....or this:

"In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own."
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Horatio G. Spafford, March 17, 1814

Hope this helps.

[ChessExpert]

Thanks for posting this question and answer. It presents Katherine Harris' views more fully than do any of the articles posted.. As a rule, the larger the textual context the better. There is less room for an editor to manipulate, and less likelihood that someone will misunderstand. No one at FreeRepublic seems to have dissented from this more extensive discussion.