Posted on 08/27/2006 1:07:14 PM PDT by SandRat
WASHINGTON, Aug. 27, 2006 Iraq is not now and will never be in a civil war, the countrys prime minister told Wolf Blitzer today on CNN Late Edition. Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, speaking from Baghdad, praised strides being made in Iraq on the political, economic and security fronts and said that despite news reports to the contrary, violence is on the downswing and Iraqs new government is succeeding.
Maliki insisted that a spirit of reconciliation is taking hold in Iraq. The violence is not increasing, he said. Iraq is not in a civil war. Iraq will never be in a civil war.
While declining to specify exactly how long Iraq will need coalition forces to reinforce its own security efforts, Maliki said the believes it wont be long, possibly within a year or less.
I dont want to commit to a certain time or a certain period, but I want to have my best efforts to decrease this time for a year or less, or a few months, he said.
But Maliki emphasized that hes not anxious to see the coalition leave until the Iraqi security forces are prepared to handle the job alone to ensure progress already made can continue.
He noted that Iraqs security forces are slated to take control of all provinces by the years end and said theyre gaining in both numbers and capability every day. Our security ability is increasing, he said.
Meanwhile, Iraq wont allow its neighbors, including Iran, to interfere in its affairs and disrupt this progress, Maliki said.
It's funny, the media has been predicting a civil war for a while now, it's almost as if they are WISHING for a civil war to occur. Yet time and time again there seems to be no outright civil war. I'm not saying that there isn't sectarian violence, but still.
This is a kick in the stomach to the lamestream media who have been pinning their hopes on chaos in Iraq in time for the mid-term elections.
I don't want to sound negative, but he would have to be damn stupid to say there IS a civil war, even if there was one.
Mate, I was at a function over this past weekend and, over cocktails the discussion inevitably led to the war in Iraq. My viewpoint was and is that the liberation of Iraq was absolutely essential to the WOT. My liberal-and-somewhat-inebriated (but otherwise perfectly OK) mate exclaimed:
"What! Do you seriously mean to say that Iraq is better off now than it was under Saddam Hussein???"
"Yup." says I.
"But what about all the people who have been killed? What about the carnage?" says he, bug-eyed and outraged.
"Mate, Saddam Hussein and his psycho sons were Bad-Heads and Scroats who desperately needed to be removed from power. Now, the good people of Iraq have a Vote. Used to be they didn't need one. We can thank the Yanks for that. And the good people of Iraq will fight to keep their Vote, by civil war if that need be the Price. And when they are done, they'll hang Hussein and his mob from lamp-posts as an example to encourage the others."
Somehow, he just didn't get it.
I'd prefer the point of kick impact to be about a foot lower.
An Iraqi civil war is a creation of the MSM, same as the "quagmire".
Murtha, eat your words!
I have no intention to go over definitions again. I still think this sectarian violence bears a striking resemblance to the ideological violence in Spain from 1936 to 1939, but then again, I've never been down there and I don't really care anyway.
It was more than we Yanks, your Nortern cousins that did it. You Diggers had a big hand in it too as well as the Free-Polish Forces, and the Queen's Own all helped. Funny, those who love real freedom, be it dreived from the Magna Carta, our Constitution or some other document, were and are there as MEN doing a MAN's job.
It would not be stupid to speak the truth about civil war.
If there is one, then it is necessary to marshall ones allies for the struggles.
In our own civil war, there were not too many whose fear extended to "announcing" the existence of a war. Their fear was their capital city being taken by the opposing force in some Napoleanic grand, decisive battle.
Yeah, but the announcement of civil war would probably rather lead to lost allies than to reinforcements this time. This conflict has been played down since that statue fell. But time plays for you I'd say. Chances are democracy will be established.
> ...were and are there as MEN doing a MAN's job.
(Embarassed silence)
New Zealand should have been there, too: our troops are in Afghanistan, including our elite NZ SAS. They should have been allowed to go to Iraq.
Possibly the NZ SAS are there, too -- who knows where the Lads get posted or seconded? Probably not even our Prime Minister. But in an official capacity, NZ is absent from Iraq.
We can thank our Prime Minister for that oversight.
Cheers to the countries who went and made it happen in Iraq. Heroes and patriots all!
*DieHard*
I think this will be the key, if border control will finally become the high priority it should have been from the start.
We'll see.
I understand your point and it's definitely a strong one.
But there comes a time when a leader has to be honest about a war going on around him. At least...if he wants to stay in power.
True. Securing the Iraq-Iran border will probably be a priority for the Coalition by now anyway, with that Iran conflict looming ahead.
I guess HE need time more than anything else. I'm not one to believe there's no majority for democracy in Iraq. I just believe a majority for democracy that is well-trained, well-organized and well-armed needs all the time the Coalition can buy them.
Time for the MSM to move on to the issue of the '08 elections in hopes that their directive can find a ray of hope in coming to be.
Great post. Thanks.
Though I have seen several Aussie Officers and NCOs "Seconded" to US units here at Fort Huachuca AZ (Jimmies assigned deploying with and fighting as unit members to the 11th Signal Group) I have not seen any from NZ. I've seen a few of your lads going through the Intelligence Center School training but, none that I'm in my limited first hand knowledge, aware of "Seconded." The Aussies have aquitted themselves honorably and are seen as Brothers in arms.
A "civil war" might be a valid term if there were a reasonable number of people, allied together, who sought to replace the present government, or to break away and form their own country under their own rule.
But there is no popular support for that. A poll reported on TV today indicated that 90% of the Iraqi people support the present government, and 70% of the people are against partitioning the country into separate independent regions.
No - what we have is 90% of the population wanting things to progress and improve. We have perhaps 5% of the population that are no more than gangsters, and they want to run the Coalition forces out of the country so that the gangsters can take over.
Think of the gangster probelm in Chicago in the 1920's and 1930's. Imagine if someone suggested that the Federal government agencies (FBI, etc) should have cut and run from the areas that had significant amounts of crime due to gangsters. There isn't much difference, in my opinion.
Mike
> The Aussies have aquitted themselves honorably and are seen as Brothers in arms.
The Aussies are indeed fine soldiers and good neighbors. I would have hoped that our Government would have remembered NZ's longstanding association with our ANZAC heritage and stood beside Australia in this important conflict.
(sigh) 'Twas not to be. Maybe next government...
I'll continue to keep an eye peeled for any of your lads that come through here and try to make them as welcome as folks are over at the FR Canteen.
> I'll continue to keep an eye peeled for any of your lads that come through here and try to make them as welcome as folks are over at the FR Canteen.
Thanks, Sandrat. Stay safe.
ping
And every "news" outlet, most of the DemonRAT party, some of the Republican party, code pink and the rest of the commie groups in the country.
There is no civil war here and there never has been, except for the one that has dwelt in the media's fertile imaginations since early '04.
The freely elected government is in place and is showing great signs of leadership. The country's reconstruction is well underway and moving right along. The Iraqi people are embracing their freedom and are resolute and determined to make this work.
While there will still be bumps in the road for a while, Iraq is a success.
A victory.
Poor, poor MSM...
Like in England, Canada and URP... and increasingly the United States..
While there will still be bumps in the road for a while.....
We are having quite a few "bumps" in the road around here as well. Does that mean WE are in a civil war? LOL!
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