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The CIA-Leak Fiasco. Back where it started, after three years of investigation.
NRO ^ | August 28, 2006, 0:31 a.m. | By Byron York

Posted on 08/28/2006 2:38:02 PM PDT by .cnI redruM

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To: popdonnelly
>>>>Tomorrow, they'll be outraged about something else - maybe Katrina again


Don't get me started on the Katrina retrospective Crap. If I didn't know and like a small number of people from New Orleans, I'd want to turn the stinking place into a nuclear free-fire zone and sink it to save on the clean up costs. Any place that would reelect Mayor Nagin deserves the worst that God can brew with his weather machine.
221 posted on 08/29/2006 5:00:00 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (The investigation was a hoax. Fitz should be brought up on charges.)
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To: .cnI redruM

So Fitzgerald, the FBI and Powell knew within days that Armitage was the leaker.

That Fitzgerald went forward with the investigation is a disgrace and he should be disbarred.

That Powell didn't defend the President of the United States is so disloyal that I'll never defend him again. Ever.

Since Armitage wasn't charged with leaking Plame's name, we can all be gratified that we were correct and she wasn't a covert agent at the time so there was no crime.

And I see the leftists aren't demanding Armitage's head on a platter. So it's okay to "leak" if the leaker is a critic of the president.

And the Democrats aren't demanding that McCain stop all association with Armitage. When they just thought the leaker was Rove, they were demanding the president fire him. What a bunch of hypocrites.


222 posted on 08/29/2006 5:02:43 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach
>>>>And the Democrats aren't demanding that McCain stop all association with Armitage.

I like this aspect. This is how we dispose of John McCain in the GOP primaries.
223 posted on 08/29/2006 5:34:31 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (The investigation was a hoax. Fitz should be brought up on charges.)
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To: Txsleuth
I know this is a "what if"...but, what if Bush had lost in 2004 because of this...and Kerry got elected???

That would be more than "nonsense" that we would have gone through...ugh.

Although there was a great deal in the media about this supposed scandal, I do not think it was a great topic around the watercooler at the time. In other words, I do not think the average American even cared about this basically media-created scandal in 2004. But yes, that is too horrible to contemplate, but to tell the truth, it WAS contemplated by some, and that is why it happened.

224 posted on 08/29/2006 7:37:57 AM PDT by YepYep
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To: .cnI redruM

OOPS!!!


225 posted on 08/29/2006 7:43:35 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: YepYep
The Friday after Hurricane Wilma hit here in South Florida last year, I went over to a nearby bar because they were serving hot food on an outside barbeque. Anyway, I was getting my chow when some bar hag came running outside screaming that "THE VP HAS BEEN INDICTED. DICK CHENEY INDICTED!!!"

Of course, I was in shock because I thought Fitz had indicted Dick Cheney. As it turned out, the bar hag was so drunk she misinterpreted what she saw on the tube by the bar. It was Cheney's AIDE who had been indicted but for awhile there I believed that bar hag. BTW, have you ever noticed that a lot of bars have bar hags as regulars?

226 posted on 08/29/2006 7:49:16 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: Texas Songwriter

No, I think that Wilson's relationship to Plame and his report were the topic of a top secret memo to the State Dept. Anyway, that was the story that Armitage told.


227 posted on 08/29/2006 8:22:07 AM PDT by Eva
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To: woofie

I don't know what Fitzgerald is going to do about the Libby charges. He never had any case to begin with, so my guess is that he will run out the time and try to quietly drop the charges, some time after the November elections.

I wish we had some Republicans with some guts in Congress, who would stand up a make a fuss over this contrived investigation and the damage that it has done to an innocent man, two innocent men, actually, Rove and Libby. Newt would not have stayed silent.


228 posted on 08/29/2006 8:27:43 AM PDT by Eva
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To: .cnI redruM
David Corn is a partisan hack who is too busy hyperventilating to even realize the extent of his own hypocrisy.

This is very true. :)

229 posted on 08/29/2006 8:41:23 AM PDT by Wolfstar (Suffer the little children to come unto Me...for of such is the kingdom of God. [Mark 10:13-14])
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Our media at work.

230 posted on 08/29/2006 8:47:17 AM PDT by Mr Cobol (Quit swatting at flies and go after the manure pile. Curtis LeMay on VIET NAM WAR!)
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To: Texas Songwriter

Here's some more on the Wilson/Plame attempted Whitehouse frame, from the NRO. I think that it is pretty much the way that I described it, a trumped up case against Libby to try to tie Cheney and Rove to their invented conspiracy.

The article starts with a response from Corn to yesterday's article on NRO.


Corn: Conspiracy theorist—moi? Where have I proposed a conspiracy theory?

Perhaps a first stop in a tour of Corn's works would be "Rove Scandal: A Conspiracy Charge for the White House?" posted on bushlies.com and davidcorn.com on July 22, 2005. In that article, Corn wrote:

As I write, the news is zapping across the Internet that Bloomberg has reported that Karl Rove and Scooter Libby have given testimony to the Plame/CIA leak grand jury that was contradicted by the accounts of others. Here's the lead:

Two top White House aides have given accounts to the special prosecutor about how reporters told them the identity of a CIA agent that are at odds with what the reporters have said, according to persons familiar with the case…

Corn then recounted a conversation he had with a Democratic lawyer friend in Washington. What did the lawyer think was going on in the CIA leak case? Corn asked:

Obviously, he says, it would be easier for [Fitzgerald] to make a "false statements case" than to prosecute a case under the Intelligence Identities Protection Act. (Regular readers by now know why.) But, he goes on, there's another way he could tackle this; check out Title 18, Section 371, of the US Code, he advises. It's entitled "Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud the United States"…

Under this law, if there was any conspiring among the leakers—say, one White House aide suggested to another that they use the classified information in hand to disclose Valerie Wilson's connection to the CIA in order to undermine Wilson's account of his trip to Niger—then the acts of each conspirator can essentially be charged to the other(s). If I understand this correctly—did I say I was no lawyer?—that means if one person violated the Intelligence Identities Protection Act (or lied to Fitzgerald or the grand jury) any one who conspired with them to make the leak happen (or concoct the false account) could be nailed. "From a prosecutor's standpoint," this former prosecutor says, "a conspiracy charge is how you get in each strand—all the strands—of what happened."

Nabbing Karl Rove on a conspiracy? To some that might sound rather appropriate.

Corn will no doubt say that he wasn't actually accusing anybody of conspiracy — after all, he put a question mark after the title, didn't he?

Posted at 10:44 AM


231 posted on 08/29/2006 9:49:46 AM PDT by Eva
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To: windchime

I don't know how I can thank you enough for digging up those links re: Kerry and his e-mail.

I remember being shocked at the time, that he did it...but not as shocked as I was when NO ONE in the media seemed to make it that big of a deal...

We haven't had diplomatic relations with Iran...and that letter, IMHO, STILL damns Kerry and the Democrat Party as one that can be trusted with foreign policy...especially with Ahmanutjob in power.

Thanks again.


232 posted on 08/29/2006 10:32:28 AM PDT by Txsleuth (,((((((((ISRAEL))))))))) Steve and Olaf have been released...pray for the release of the Israelis..)
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To: .cnI redruM

How did this investigation help to feed a hungry child?


233 posted on 08/29/2006 10:33:13 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Peach

I see you are as angry as I am about this revelation about the Plame story...

You do realize that Kerry could have ended up as POTUS because of this...and Soros would have accomplished his goal...

Do you believe this was a set up from the get-go...when Joe Wilson was sent to Niger??


234 posted on 08/29/2006 10:34:32 AM PDT by Txsleuth (,((((((((ISRAEL))))))))) Steve and Olaf have been released...pray for the release of the Israelis..)
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To: Txsleuth

You're welcome, Txsleuth! I've been saving stuff like that in (fairly) accessible files for years. We need all the ammunition we can get to expose the dems as untrustworthy with our national security.

From your posts on this thread yesterday, I noticed we share a suspicion of all things Soros. I've got lots of Soros material, so if you need specific info just ping me and I'll see if I have it. I come and go on the forum, but will get back to you.


235 posted on 08/29/2006 1:25:44 PM PDT by windchime (One war~many fronts.)
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To: Valin; Kenny Bunk

see #168


236 posted on 08/29/2006 6:07:47 PM PDT by bitt ("And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm.")
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To: bitt
Valerie Plame did not need to be "outed." Joe Wilson dined out in DC for years on the strength of HER CIA connection.

He was picked by her for the African mission for private business reasons. Libby is going to the cooler essentially for Joe wilson's African consulting business, which in and of itself, stinks to Clinton-Ron Brown-CBC-Conyers-Heaven.

237 posted on 08/30/2006 9:15:55 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (If your Mercedes Benz is missing, try looking in Tirana.)
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To: Txsleuth

I have read elsewhere that FITZ told Armitage not to tell anyone.. I wonder why?


238 posted on 09/05/2006 2:46:19 PM PDT by t2buckeye
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