Posted on 08/28/2006 7:22:45 PM PDT by Pyro7480
Not content with all the profanity already on TV, CBS has decided to air the profanity-laden unedited version of "9/11" on Sept. 10. The decision by CBS is a slap in the face to the FCC and Congress, which recently raised indecency fines to $325,000 per incident.
"9/11," which will be shown in prime-time, contains a tremendous amount of hardcore profanity. CBS has stated they have not, and will not, make any cuts in the amount and degree of profanity. CBS will ignore the law. The network is suing the FCC over the indecency law, saying they should be able to show whatever they desire whenever they desire. CBS wants no limits.
This is a test case for CBS to see how far they can go. If there is no out-pouring of complaints from the public, they will go further the next time.
(Excerpt) Read more at afa.net ...
This is the famed documentary by brothers Gedeon and Jules Naudet, who were with FDNY personnel on 9/11, and captured rare footage of the first plane hitting the World Trade Center.
"The updated version, which has been in the works for a year, will include interviews with 20 of the firefighters from the downtown Manhattan firehouse where the Naudets had been filming for months. Robert De Niro, who narrated the film, will tape new portions next week. More than 39 million people watched the documentary during its first airing in March 2002."
While I can certainly understand the concern, this documentary, in its original form, has already aired on CBS. According to the related story above, "CBS is taking steps to make sure that no one is caught by surprise, including informing affiliates of its plans to air the broadcast and, like the previous two telecasts, including strong warnings in the promos before the broadcast and at various points during the two-hour telecast."
Decencey Bump.
Oh please. This documentary is one of the most powerful pieces of work I have ever seen in my life. Everyone should be required to see it. If the profanity in it offends you, deal with it. Life sucks, wear a helmet.
There was noting decent about September 11th.
I think this same group would object to "Saving Private Ryan" being shown, and I think in both instances, that is overkill.
The AFA has some misplaced priorities.
That's not what he's saying. He is saying that the DOCUMENTARY is powerful. Editing it will just detract from its message.
I am actually glad CBS has decided to do this. Good for them.
I didn't see the documentary yet,but if it wakes up an America that seems to be losing the sting of what happened on 9\11 I say show it uncut !!!
OHHHH PULEEZZE.
Don Wildeman strikes again, distorting truth until it's almost as indecent as the stuff he complains about.
There's a radical difference between broadcasting live footage of a terrible tragidy, and watching the obviously-staged Janet Jackson nipple exposure. There's a ton of difference between watching the carnage of 9-11 as it unfolded, and watching made-for-TV violence in any number of movies and TV shows.
And while we're at it, there is a radical difference between showing genitals during videos of child birth, and watching those same parts during a sex film. There is a world of difference showing our young people photos of VD-ridden genitals and showing them an old Hustler mag.
Too bad that some people just don't see that difference.
I follow what Pyro had to say... I prefer to be less diplomatic.
Maybe the AFA can send out some burkas to cover the eyes an ears of the poor little children who may be damaged by the 'bad words' in the 9/11 documentary.
It is available on DVD and yes, it will wake you up.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00006B1HI/sr=8-1/qid=1156818817/
Same here. I have it on my computer and have watched it every year since 2001. I suppose the Pat Robertson types would have us believe no profanity was used when two airliners crash into two different sky scrapers causing them to fall, killing thousands of people. What a bunch of f'cking(self censorship) morons!
I hope the FCC fines the hell out of CBS. This is just another "camel-nose in the tent" tactic by CBS to try to get more profanity onto the public airwaves.
The feds should fine them the max then. There's no reason why profanity could not be edited out and no reason to leave it in.
That is AFA's argument, and I think is understandable, but I disagree.
The version without the cursing and profanity. You have proven the case that CBS does not need it to make a powerful show.
This is a test case for CBS to see how far they can go. If there is no out-pouring of complaints from the public, they will go further the next time.
IMHO, this is the issue. They are using a powerful documentary to try to eliminate any and all limits on what they air in prime time.
I don't condone profanity on network TV for "entertainment" value. But this is news. This is commentary.
And while I don't make it a practice, I said a whole lot of "poopy" words that day.
Sledgehammer! Apply directly to the forehead!
Sledgehammer! Apply directly to the forehead!
Sledgehammer! Apply directly to the forehead!
So, 3000 people are killed: No problem with showing that.
People are shocked and cuss/swear in response: Oh, you must censor that.
odd, that is just odd.
Surely you are joking. Do you think they should not show the documentary?
"Oh please. This documentary is one of the most powerful pieces of work I have ever seen in my life. Everyone should be required to see it. If the profanity in it offends you, deal with it. Life sucks, wear a helmet."
So you are all for children learning any and all language that is aired on broadcast tv?
Is this videotape of 9/11 actual events or is it a recreation?
I could not agree with you more. Good for CBS, this should get more viewers since it will be on CBS and not one of the cable channels (History etc.)
If you're a parent, you must ACT like one. If you know it's being aired, you must be PROACTIVE.
No, I'm for parents raising their children, not the feds, what about you?
Oh come on get a life.There's hardly a show on tv that doesn't use profanity for the sake of using profanity,and in the case of this show editing the REAL language to emphasize the honest feelings of what was going on is ridiculous !!!
It's very real. Just by chance two French journalists were doing a documentary with a crew of fire fighters, and it shows everything from the night before, and when it happened. It even has footage of the first impact while a fireman was out investigating a gas leak near the WTC. There was also allot of footage from inside the WTC while it was all going on. The thing that got to me the worst was the sound of bodies crashing on the roof of where the firemen were in the lobby. The whole thing is VERY intense, it's like being there.
I don't remember making any comment to that effect. If it's so important to CBS to leave all the profanity in, then they should be willing to pay the fines. What's so hard about that? Let them put their money where their mouth is.
After the initial airing, I went out and bought the DVD. I don't want to forget and I definitely don't want to see a cleaned up, girlyman version of 9-11. Send the kids to bed or use the remote. Islam's actions on 9-11 were profane. It shouldn't be sugar-coated.
"If you're a parent, you must ACT like one. If you know it's being aired, you must be PROACTIVE."
And what about the parents that do not know about this airing?
They should show it, unedited.
If you have ever had a rocket fired at you, there's a good chance
someone in your crowd yelled "HOLY @&#K".
Sorry folks that's the way it is.
After they show it, CBS should be fined 10 times what they booked in advertising.
I'm all for the parents ability to turn the channel, or having the children get the hell out of the room. I'd say that's allot better than government regulation. I always send the kids to bed before I watch South Park. =)
The AFA seems to have a certain amount of misplaced indignation. While some times they go after a good legit target (Ford's big $$$ donations towards homosexual advocacy) other times I think they take away power from parents and dilute personal responsibility by seeming to insist that all television be suitable for small children.
Given that it's real and a clearly non-contrived actual and important event, I'd say to go ahead and broadcast it.
Not everything needs to be shown raw just because it's real. Not everything is important, and many "real" things are contrived.
"No, I'm for parents raising their children, not the feds, what about you?"
This is not about the feds. This is about raising children.
This is happening on broadcast tv, in other words, it is on one of the very few channels that every tv in America will pick up.
I would look at this issue completely differently if it were on a cable channel late at night, or simply sold on DVD. I have no problem with the profanity being aired. I do have a problem with the venue this is being aired on. CBS knows that also and is pushing the envelope and working to make this the feds fault, but it is CBS that is ignoring their responsibility to the parents of America.
"So you are all for children learning any and all language that is aired on broadcast tv? "
No. Which is why I wouldn't let a child watch it.
And, see my first post. You obviously don't get it either.
It is a documentary! It shows what happened INSIDE the World Trade Center on 9/11. Profanity was a part of that. Deal with it.
Since you are so angry that a child might be exposed to reality, why don't you call up the NY City Fire Department and tell them that they acted unprofessionally on 9/11 by using profanity? Please let me know what they say.
Isn't the AFA responsible for better than 98% of all FCC indecency complaint?
People weren't sitting around eating milk & cookies that horrible day. The language was a little tough, just like life itself.
~ Blue Jays ~
You know what, children learn that language earlier than you think.
But it does offer a pretty simple rule to teach your children: If your friends or co-workers dies in a terrorist attack on a building where you work, you can say Sh*t, F*ck, etc... as much as you want, but anything short of that you are eating the Ivory Soap.
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