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CA: Senate votes to ban smoking in cars carrying young kids (and much much more)
ap on Riverside Press Enterprise ^ | 8/28/06 | Steve Lawrence - ap

Posted on 08/28/2006 8:05:15 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: mojo114

Actually the Bloominidiot mayor of NYC gave the anti-smoker cartel 125 million dollars........

It's his money, he can do what he wants with it - but when he uses his taxpayer funded, elected office to promote it, I've got a majorly serious problem.

I was born and raised in NYC and come from 3 generations of NYPD.........Bloominidiot has made a mockery of that city.


61 posted on 08/28/2006 9:46:26 PM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: NormsRevenge

"We all know that secondhand smoke is hazardous," she said, particularly for young children whose lungs are still developing. "Children are effectively smoking a pack and a half a day for every hour they are exposed to smoke in a car."

Now, why aren't we suing her for fraud?

How is it that people can stand up and LIE LIE LIE and get away with it? where is the accountability? Not to mention the study that supports her theory?


62 posted on 08/28/2006 9:50:03 PM PDT by annelizly
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To: nopardons

I find this stop smoking thing really appalling. It is a legal substance it provides tons of money into every state, yet there are states that want it banned. The freedom part is one issue - make up the revenue is another isssue.


63 posted on 08/28/2006 9:50:25 PM PDT by mojo114
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To: FlingWingFlyer
"I live up in Northeastern Arizona"

Hi neighbor :) Renzi is my Rep too.

64 posted on 08/28/2006 9:51:27 PM PDT by Ros42
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To: eXe
The conundrum for gov't is they want the tax revenue so they can't prohibit and have a real problem claiming the moral high ground. Prohibit, show some principle, at your peril.
65 posted on 08/28/2006 9:53:11 PM PDT by caresistance
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To: dayglored
Could we go back to talking about cigarettes?

My dear FRiend, that is what I have been talking about the whole time.

Perhaps there is nothing in this world that you are willing to fight for.

Let me reverse this and ask you a very simple question:

What is still legal?

Be carefull....

The last time I asked this question, the result was: "You can legally have emotions."

66 posted on 08/28/2006 9:53:54 PM PDT by Hunble (Why?)
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To: mojo114
Exactly so!

This whole thing has REALLY gotten much too out of hand!

67 posted on 08/28/2006 10:01:03 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Hunble
> Perhaps there is nothing in this world that you are willing to fight for.

Perhaps you're dead wrong.

You clearly have not bothered to click on my name and read my profile page on FR, nor followed through to my profile on Wikipedia, to see what I believe, and what I would fight for.

Lighten up and read a little. Your attempt at an insult was uninformed, and I'll forgive your ignorance, in good humor, but only this once.

68 posted on 08/28/2006 10:01:19 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Ros42

Hi! Glad to see another Arizonan here! Renzi is doing what it takes to get re-elected. I don't think he is going to have any problems.


69 posted on 08/28/2006 10:02:10 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (What changes do you intend to make to your lifestyle now that Pluto is no longer "a planet?")
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To: dayglored
"Come and get me, coppers!"


70 posted on 08/28/2006 10:07:50 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: dayglored
"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."

—Samuel Adams

Well my FRiend, I would say the exact same words to you.

71 posted on 08/28/2006 10:07:57 PM PDT by Hunble (Why?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I think that must be the same ad I have heard on TV constantly. That woman's voice is one of the most annoying I have ever heard.


72 posted on 08/28/2006 10:09:03 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Irish Eyes

That's the one! I just read where we are going to have two of these smoking ban fiascos on the proposition ballot this time. One that adds 2 cents a pack to cigarettes for "enforcement" and one that is going to help a committee "officer" pimping the proposition to sell air "purifiers" to bars. Two beauties to go along with the Scratch Ticket Voter Ballot Lottery Fiasco Act proposition. These people who come up with these things are out of their minds.


73 posted on 08/28/2006 10:16:19 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (What changes do you intend to make to your lifestyle now that Pluto is no longer "a planet?")
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To: Hunble
> Well my FRiend, I would say the exact same words to you.

We all must be reminded of Sam Adams' fine challenging words from time to time. I do not take your use of them to me any differently than when I say them to you. The challenge starts with "IF". May God grant that I never fail to answer it in the negative!

You are welcome to identify with Tim McVeigh, it's your right and (per your earlier query) it is legal.

I prefer to identify with less misguided individuals. But I daresay that we're aiming for roughly the same end, albeit in different ways. Getting and keeping oppressive government off the backs of free people is a constant battle, in America as well as around the world.

I am proud to live in America, and wouldn't trade places with anyone, anywhere else. But that doesn't blind me to the ways in which our government restricts our liberty in the name of security, safety, health, and whatnot. I resist those restrictions every day, and work for their elimination. In that, I believe we are the same.

74 posted on 08/28/2006 10:26:16 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: donmeaker; All

American Cancer Society catches the Surgeon General in an outright lie...

July 1, 2006

The Surgeon General showed up very regal looking to provide a press release rehashing the tired old argument that secondhand smoke is deadly and must be banned. And with his next statement:

Separate "no smoking" sections DO NOT protect you from secondhand smoke. Neither does filtering the air or opening a window.

It seemed a feable attempt to pre-empt any action short of a total smoking ban.....as if to confirm that pro-smoking ban activists' credibility in the public is failing miserably.

Well I am sorry to report that the American Cancer Society conducted air quality testing at several smoking venues which prove the Sugeon General flat out wrong.

 

 

Take a look at the above table, do you see the 20 reading? It represents a restaurant with an enclosed (separate) smoking area. And the 20 is actually 20 nanograms, a nanogram is 10 (-9).

So......let me put a number to that nanogram for you: 0.000000020 of a gram/cubic meter was the secondhand smoke concentration for the restaurant with the enclosed smoking area. Which is 25,000 times SAFER than OSHA regulations for the secondhand smoke measured airborne component. Thus the American Cancer Society destroys the Surgeon General's and RWJF (Nicoderm) funded James Repace argument that seperation and ventilation don't work.

The Surgeon General can stomp his feet, and scream at the top of his lungs...like a little Napoleon "....because I said so....." all he wants. But it doesn't change the facts........and the facts show he is telling a bold faced lie to the American public.
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75 posted on 08/28/2006 10:33:36 PM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: NormsRevenge

These leftist commies in California need to mind their own freaking business for once. The nanny state is so getting out of hand in this nation.


76 posted on 08/28/2006 10:34:49 PM PDT by ladyinred (Leftists, the enemy within.)
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To: SAJ
Thanks for the ping, aber nicht verstehen!!!
77 posted on 08/28/2006 10:35:06 PM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: TWohlford

I am missing your point.


78 posted on 08/28/2006 10:35:20 PM PDT by ladyinred (Leftists, the enemy within.)
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To: dayglored
My FRiend, you and I both share the same goals.

Where we may depart, is how we view what Sam Adams would do in this situation.

Sorry, but I highly doubt that Sam Adams would have only written a "strongly worded email" to his local government officials.

Actually, I think he did something rather important, as a result of, or closely related to, the government's tobacco laws.

Thank God that Sam Adams was able to write such an outstanding letter to his government and get such immediate results!

79 posted on 08/28/2006 10:37:00 PM PDT by Hunble (Why?)
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To: Gabz
Let me make sure I have this straight.............High pollution vehicles are ok - but the non-issue tobacco smoke in a vehicle is now illegal????? Where do these people get their brains from? There is obviously something in the air in California, and it sure as chit ain't tobacco smoke.

Thanks for the ping, Sis.  This is really nuts!

In California, let the kiddies breath SMOG! LOL



80 posted on 08/28/2006 10:37:37 PM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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