Posted on 08/29/2006 9:19:00 AM PDT by meandog
Why? Because some pollsters are telling you so?
Wow, I missed the Republican primaries.
Why do Freeper of all people fall for this media led polling on who they think the nominees should be?
In actual polling done at state conventions, RINOs like McCain barely show up, but that is not enough for the drive-by-media, all of whom LOVE John McCain (RINO - Drive-By-Media)
alot of his numbers are very suspect...
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/info-flash05a.html?project=elections06-ft&h=495&w=778&hasAd=1&mod=blogs
I take it you don't believe in polls?
I doubt Giuliani will even run, but that may be my own personal wishful thinking.
I don't think either of those clowns could win. They're only leading polls now because of their names, and that will change when the primary draws nearer and the candidates become more known as it always does. Polls now are trash, completly irrelevent in regards to the 2008 presidential election.
It would be nothing short of disastrous if Allen were to get beaten. Not only does this mean the loss of a Senate seat they cannot afford to lose, but it will further indicate VA is trending Dem, and the GOP candidate for president in '08 can't take it for granted. Not to mention it will probably boost Gov Warner's prospects in '08.
Zogby polls = caca
I agree, and for the reasons you state.
What is wrong with the party, that we keep throwing away very winnable races?
Yes it would. He needs to keep his Senate Seat! If he wants to run for president in 2008 he needs to win his seat back.
If Allen wins narrowly, he's still probably finished as Presidential matter.
Back in '96, Congressman Jim Ross Lightfoot challenged Sen Tom Harkin in Iowa's Senate race.
Harkin's name was occasionally bounced around as possible Presidential material.
Harkin won 54-46% - but was perceived afterwards to be damaged goods because he didn't decisively destroy Lightfoot.
Allen did this to himself with his idiotic apology.
Who said anything about the primaries?
Why do Freeper of all people fall for this media led polling on who they think the nominees should be?
Some of us actually know things you don't read about in the paper, about organization, internal polls, etc. I never said a word about who I thought should be in the lead, and I never said these were who I "thought the nominees should be", but you go right ahead making assumptions if it gives you hope that Allen is somehow not in trouble. If you think the media pushing McCain and Giuliani doesn't affect their being in the lead, you go right on believing that.
I never said who I THOUGHT should be in the lead, merely looked beyond the media--MSM and conservative--to what things look like to me. You don't like it, too bad. But if you keep dreaming that organization, internal polling, fundraising, and plain old talk among party workers means nothing, you go right ahead and believe that comforting delusion.
What is VA now? Is it half and half or mostly Repub?
What I take from all this media-inspired hysteria:
1) Good. Let folks go on believing Allen has lost his chances for President. I disagree, but I am SICK and TIRED of talking about '08 (which started in Nov '04.) So I'm gonna enjoy the break.
2) The media is in a full-court press, and has been, for two weeks now. The best Webb can do is a tie in some recent polls, with Allen at his weakest? And it's in AUGUST?? I'm not impressed.
3) Allen's still got a ton of money. This will likely serve as a wake-up call.
4) Webb's a name-calling lightweight. Can't really see him beating a name-calling heavyweight. Especially an incumbent in a conservative-leaning state.
VA is considered a swing state I guess though it has been reliably Republican at the presidential level since 1968. The Dems thought they had a shot in '04 but GWB won it by 54-45, as I recall. A solid margin but I fear if a "moderate" Dem were the nominee, he could win it.
The state legislature has been GOP controlled for several years, and they have both US Senate seats now. But unfortunately Dems have won the last 2 governor's races.
Good point. A damaged candidate for senator isn't in a good position. But then, NO senator is in a good position to win the presidency. Unfortunately, HRC is different in so many ways that the model doesn't work for her. Although I would'nt be surprised if we have two senatros for the ultimate party noms this time, either.
Further indicate? Nope. Quite the opposite is true. VA has been trending to the right for the past few elections.
Look in the mirror.
Holy macaca!
Or is it Macqueque?
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