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Webb overtakes Allen in new poll
WAVY TV/Daily Press ^ | 9.28.06 | n/a

Posted on 08/29/2006 9:19:00 AM PDT by meandog

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To: COEXERJ145
This has been posted ad nauseum.

And will be posted another dozen times before the end of the day. I can't believe WSJ still associates its good brand with Zogby's worst set of polls.
41 posted on 08/29/2006 9:43:05 AM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: zarf
The George "Jet Puffed" Allen faithful are getting a nice preview of their Messiah.

LOL! Nice, accurate nickname. ;)

42 posted on 08/29/2006 9:43:27 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: lormand
At least you are being as consistent as your hero McCain, which is to bash fellow Conservatives, in the hopes of making yourself look better...

If DUH-be-yuh is a conservative (just consider the deficits my grandchildren's grandchildren will pay) then I'm John McCain's most trusted political adviser (NOT)!
Regardless, I bash him not on principle but because he is the principal reason those same grandchildren's grandchildren will probably be fighting the GWOT BECAUSE he is managing quite well to LOSE it!
Just like his incompetent old man, who I remind you at one time had a 90 percent approval rating from his countrymen, Iraq was his for the taking when "Shock and Awe" was in progress. But, for some unexplained reason, he followed a bizarre strategy of "limited presence" (so as not to disuade our Iraqi "hosts" into thinking we were an occupying force) instead of mopping up with an all out overwhelming armed presence--therefore preventing the possibility of WMDs evaporating to Syria, quickly bagging both Sadaam and Zawkawri, and subduing any developing insurgency. But he couldn't do it.
And, although I voted for him (twice), Bush is the epitome of arrogant inability to get the job done...he listens only to his sycophantic buddies and not to the people who elected him. And, if the Washington political pundits are correct, we'll be using terms like "Speaker Pelosi" and "Majority Leader Reid" on Jan. 20, 2007 because of it!

43 posted on 08/29/2006 9:43:51 AM PDT by meandog (While Clinton isn't fit even to scrape Reagan's shoes, Bush will never fill them!)
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To: Darkwolf377

I don't view Allen as in much trouble. And I'm pretty familiar with VA politics. So am I a dreamer?


44 posted on 08/29/2006 9:44:43 AM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Coop

I beg to disagree. Not only have Dems won the governorship in '01 and 05, but the GOP has lost some ground in the state legislature I think. Now Allen's seat is seen as vulnerable. Analysts say the increasing numbers of Dems in the northern VA/DC area are a bad omen for Republicans. At the moment I would say they still are a GOP leaning state but that might not last.


45 posted on 08/29/2006 9:45:10 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: TNCMAXQ

Thanks. I'm in NY So I really don't have an idea how VA swings.


46 posted on 08/29/2006 9:45:12 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: meandog

Don't sweat this too much. We have one saving grace. Whether Senator Allen deserves to win or not, he will win because of the gay marriage on the ballot. He is very lucky that this is important to people or he could have wound up in a very bad position. He will win for sure!!!!


47 posted on 08/29/2006 9:45:25 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: TNCMAXQ
Not only have Dems won the governorship in '01 and 05,

So? Are you familiar with our gubernatorial history? The last ten races have split 50/50.

48 posted on 08/29/2006 9:46:44 AM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: TNCMAXQ

The current state of affairs in Virginia is that Democrats have to do everything right and run as conservatives in order to reach their potential statewide ceiling of about 53%. It's still a Republican-leaning state.


49 posted on 08/29/2006 9:48:12 AM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: meandog

This poll is a load of ma-kaka.


50 posted on 08/29/2006 9:48:58 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Coop

I have no idea. Does everyone familiar with VA politics think Allen isn't in trouble?


51 posted on 08/29/2006 9:49:54 AM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Allen did this to himself with his idiotic apology.

LOL - no, he did it to himself with his idiotic comments to the Webb campaign operative. He might get away with it in the Senate race, but this guy ain't presidential timber.
52 posted on 08/29/2006 9:55:39 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Coop

Zogby International telephoned about 2% of respondents who completed the interactive survey to validate their personal data. To solicit participation, Zogby sent emails to individuals who had asked to join its online-polling database, inviting them to complete an interactive poll. Many individuals who have participated in Zogby's telephone surveys also have submitted e-mail addresses so they may take part in online polls.

The Interactive polls were supplemented by 20 to 50 telephone calls in 19 states (AR, CA, CO, FL, GA, IL, MD, MI, MO, NV, NM, NJ, NY, OH, PA, TN, TX, VA, WI) to ensure proper representation of all demographic groups. In Connecticut, 180 phone calls were used to supplement the Interactive polls.


53 posted on 08/29/2006 9:56:10 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" 10% are fundamentalists, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: TNCMAXQ; Corin Stormhands; Gopher Broke
VA 1996:

Congressional delegation: Seven Democrats, six Republicans. Senate: 1 Dem, 1 Repub. Gov: Pubbie

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,985490,00.html

VA 2006:

Congressional delegation: Three Democrats, eight Republicans. Senate: 0 Dem, 2 Repub. Gov: Dem

Hey Corin, you have the numbers handy. What was the switch in the state Senate and House of Delegates? I believe 2001 was the first time since Reconstruction the GOP had the majority. Is that correct?

54 posted on 08/29/2006 9:56:24 AM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Darkwolf377
I don't trust Zogby but Allen is damaged.

He should win in VA but he'll prolly have to spend his financial war chest to do so.

His stock for being on top of the ticket in 08 has collapsed.
55 posted on 08/29/2006 9:57:27 AM PDT by Blackirish
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To: Darkwolf377
Does everyone familiar with VA politics think Allen isn't in trouble?

I'm sure some do. I just don't sweat the small stuff, especially in August. I'd be much more worried had this gaffe occurred in mid October.

56 posted on 08/29/2006 9:57:39 AM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: areafiftyone

The majority of the state is conservative. Northern VA and the Norfolk area are liberal hotbeds and have very large populations. Turnout is how conservatives keep the legislature in GOP hands.


57 posted on 08/29/2006 9:58:14 AM PDT by LetsRok
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To: meandog

Allen is a Senate Republican who has the guts to take a stand against amnesty and open borders.

Zogby is the brother of one of the leading Arabist/Islamist spokesmen who constantly rants against Bush and anyone who says a bad word about aliens, especially Muslim ones..

Zogby guessed nearly right on a presidential election many years back, and has been riding that horse for years.

I'd give Dan Rather more credibility than Zogby.


58 posted on 08/29/2006 9:58:55 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: Darkwolf377
Well, Webb is campaigning heavily here in Arlington County, which is more liberal. I went to Guitar Center this weekend and saw this in the parking lot for a resturaunt and had to snap a picture. Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting
59 posted on 08/29/2006 10:00:22 AM PDT by jack_napier
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To: Blackirish; AnotherUnixGeek

If you remove Allen from Presidential consideration, then please remove McCain from your list as well. I'd say the Keating 5 scandal is just a wee bit more serious than some alleged, media-driven racist remark.


60 posted on 08/29/2006 10:01:39 AM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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