Skip to comments.America's Muslims Aren't as Assimilated as You Think
Posted on 08/29/2006 11:35:38 AM PDT by thehumanlynx
If only the Muslims in Europe -- with their hearts focused on the Islamic world and their carry-on liquids poised for destruction in the West -- could behave like the well-educated, secular and Americanizing Muslims in the United States, no one would have to worry.
So runs the comforting media narrative that has developed around the approximately 6 million Muslims in the United States, who are often portrayed as well-assimilated and willing to leave their religion and culture behind in pursuit of American values and lifestyle. But over the past two years, I have traveled the country, visiting mosques, interviewing Muslim leaders and speaking to Muslim youths in universities and Islamic centers from New York to Michigan to California -- and I have encountered a different truth. I found few signs of London-style radicalism among Muslims in the United States. At the same time, the real story of American Muslims is one of accelerating alienation from the mainstream of U.S. life, with Muslims in this country choosing their Islamic identity over their American one.
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Why would they have to assimilate when morons in our country do everything they can to cater to them. Change noice ordinances so they can blast their prayers over loud speakers. Change dress codes so as not to offend the muslims.
Any one else see this blatant effort to refuse to actually become an american as a problem. Reminds me a lot of the Mexicans that were talking about a revolution during the protests. I dont know why we dont wake up to see that our country is being abused and taked over by a number of different subgroups.. Homosexuals, Muslims, Illegal immigrants, terrorists, and the apologists for all of them. Its sick. They dont want to be americans they want to take it over. Ask them if they wish we were under Islamic rule... Yes they do.
"The "enemies" Yusuf referred to that day were not non-Muslims, but rather those who use Islam as a rationale for violence."
No, Yusuf meant Christians and Jews. This reporter is an idiot and needs to read the koran.
Even the Mormans want a little fiefdom in Utah. It never ends. The difference between the US and Europe is that our country's history is to tolerate this nonsense for only so long before the federal government comes in with troops. Heck, even the L.A.P.D. here in California opened up with rubber bullets on a La Raza riot last year. The Muslims are the minority and not yet the problem that the flood of illegals from Mexico have become. In one estimate, we have absorbed up to 10% of their population already.
I can't really worry about losing our country to Muslims. Not yet anyway. Not with 10's of millions of Mexicans coming into our country over the last decade.
This is a very dangerous situation for our country. If these muslims won't assimilate, there could be violence from home grown muslim terrorists. I think some government officials in Australia had said that muslims should go home if they can't assimilate to Australia's culture. I think we should welcome legal immigrants who want to assimilate to America's culture. They have no right to impose Sharia on America and they should be stopped.
In the next ten or twenty years, the geographical/cultural area formerly known as Christendom will have to decide whether to expel all Moslems.
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I can't really worry about losing our country to Muslims.
Oh, yeah? How about the ones in suicide vests?
Can you really believe anything in the comPost?
You know, it's interesting. We Freep and rail against these things and say things like "when these guys actually do something bad like domestic terror... They are doing it now, we aren't doing anything about it, most people probably will meekly get into the cattle cars with some faint hope that somehow things will work out. I predict that, like the people on the airplane who fought the hijackers on 9/11, some of us will take the battle to the @ssholes and we'll have us a civil war. As of now, we could win, I think, but watching Hizballa in Lebanon, it might not be too long until they will be able to match us.
You said it, fellow FReeper!
That hasn't happened to us yet. I am sure that the Muslims can cause a great deal of havoc. Fortunately, their numbers in this country are still relatively small. We also are limiting their immigration to a certain degree. Unfortunately, we are witnessing the the destruction of the entire hospital system, school system, prison system and welfare system to illegals here in Southern California right now. Our country is being overrun by this madness and our politicians are encouraging it.
As a matter of fact, there are reports of the Islamo-nazis coming in through our southern border with them. I also think that the fact that their are acive Islamo-nazi public protests in certain parts of California have a great deal to do with a societal break down encouraged by massive illegal immigration.
I don't think they are assimilated at all.
The ones that are here are either active Islamic fascists or enablers of active Islamic fascism.
The only other kind are the lapsed Muslims. They are our best allies.
Muslim sleeper cells are shown on a map as red states, which include among many, California, Oregon and Washington states. Thanks for "posting personal report here." I hope everyone reads it.
"...making it harder still for Americans to realize that there is a difference between their Muslim neighbor and the plotter in London or the kidnapper in Baghdad."
Once the MSM, ACLU and Loony-left have forced most Americans to "realize" this difference, we are done-for. If the US, Canada, UK, etc... doesn't start actively encouraging, to the point of forcing, Islamic followers to leave the country, with in a few years the die will be cast.
"Even the Mormans want a little fiefdom in Utah."
Remember 2020 is only a short time away, a time when like robots Islam will rear it's true head, and in its plan America will be conquered by the sword.
It's absurd to think that a Muslim can integrate himself into a Christian value-based society. They have completely different value system and their supremacist views forbid them to accept other cultures as equal.
When the big war starts, start building internment camps!!!
I should have used past tense with the Mormans.
The fact is, THEY are the ones who are biased against American culture and social and political institutions.
The onus is on them to make accommodation with our way of life, by facing and ridding themselves of their own prejudices.
We are a tolerant people. That doesn't mean we have nothing we hold up as ideal. And we are not obligated to tolerate and bolster belief systems which promote activities that threaten the existence of our own higher values and ideals.
Islam is (and historically has been) in conflict with the West. The test of our time is whether we will defend our values without apology, and demand respect for those values from all who choose to live in and benefit from our society.
For centuries, the islamics have never assimilated. To think they would do it now is ridiculous.
BS. I know Islam better than this idiot writer apparently.
Not so sure I can agree with that assessment. They named their first Territorial Capitol Fillmore and the County Millard in honor of the first U.S. President they felt treated them fairly.
Applications for statehood were consistently rejected even as terrirtories which were settled much later (Nevada, Idaho, Wyoming, Colorado, Montana, the Dakotas) were welcomed as new states.
While Wyoming terrirory's extension of the voting franchise to women was accepted, the federal government blocked the Utah legislature's bill to follow suit as a plot to beef up the number of Mormon voters.
It was six long years after the polygamy thing went away that Utah's application for statehood was finally approved, roughly 50 years after the first settlers arrived.
Fine, not the Mormans! :)
Oh, yeah? How about the ones in suicide vests?
That hasn't happened to us yet.
What university football game was it that the kid tried to get into and was denied because they wanted to search him for alcohol?? He went to a bench outside and blew himself up.
His Paki roommate didn't know anything about it. The apt was full of explosives as I recall.
You are presuming that non-Muslims would NEVER herd "suspected" Al-Qaeda into a ditch and shoot them out of hand, just on spec. The veneer of civilization is not so thick, and since Islam insists on screeching how it will kill the West, some day soon the West will take them at their word and the shooting will REALLY start. We can wipe out whole populations in days, and Islam is betting we won't. I think they are trying to draw to fill an inside straight.
This republic is being changed into a democracy(by sedition) and probably is already a democracy..
Unfortunately a lot of these a$$ holes are as mindless as the Borg collective.
One more 9/11 type terrorist attack and they won't have to worry about "assimilating." Every muslim swingin' dick will have to pack up his koran & family and go back to whatever hellhole they originated from.
I searched and didnt see it. My bad. I still don't get why people feel the need to post that a story has already been posted rather than make a comment. Seems like a waste to me, but w/e.
On the contrary, lapsed Muslims when pressed by Jihadists about their lack of faith will have something to prove.P
Religion of peace.
I'm not presuming that non-muslims (infidels like me) wouldn't do such a thing. I'm just wondering what it will take to get started. Lots of people will go along with almost anything so long as they are not directly affected. The problem is, they are already being directly affected whenever they get in line at the airport, pass through metal detectors, etc.
I hope you're correct in your assessment that they are trying to fill an inside straight.
I'm getting too old to do much more than sit on my porch and pop 'em when they pass by.
The reason a link is made to an earlier thread is so that the totality of comments on the story can be maintained. Duplicate threads fragment responses. Having said that, duplicate threads several days apart may allow a separate set of readers to view and comment on the story.
Trust a muslim? Nope. Never.
I might pretend I like them, I might be courteous to muslims during business transactions or on the street..but beneath my friendly smile is the same contempt for them and their kind that they have for me and mine.
Frightening to contemplate.
It will be a race then, between the illegals destroying our sovereignty and the Muslims taking over. Wonderful.
Contemplating tagline snag...
All we can do is the best we can with what we have.
I try to convince my kids that this is the real deal. On some levels they get it, and on others, not.
my issue is more with allowing separate readers to post. Even though it is posted once, not everyone reads it who would find it interesting. There are some, not you, who are militant in pointing out a repost of a story and make a huge deal out of it. I thought you were one of them. Now I see your intent. thanks.
Unlike Europe if some American muslims go the radical route people in this country are armed and will hit back.