Posted on 08/30/2006 2:16:58 AM PDT by George Maschke
A California teenager suspected of attending a terrorist training camp and his father are being denied re-entry to the United States after spending four years in Pakistan unless they submit to interviews and lie-detector tests, their attorney says.
Julia Mass says the rights of her clients, Muhammad Ismail, a naturalized U.S. citizen born in Pakistan, and his 18-year-old son, Jaber Ismail, to return to the United States are being violated because they are on the "no fly" list.
Miss Mass said an official at the U.S. Embassy in Islamabad told Jaber Ismail that he and his father would be allowed to return only if he submitted to a lie-detector test. Airlines have refused to sell the Ismails tickets without "clearance" from the embassy.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...
These Pakistanis should never have been allowed in the USA.
My husband and I had a new home built in an area near to Lodi where these people live, and then it was a good area.
But so much immigration to this part of California that it became a place where I do not want to live. My husband died and I sold my home, and left the place where my family had lived since 1870.
Actually, one of those being denied entry to the U.S. is a native-born citizen. But in any event, the only distinction that our Constitution makes between the rights of native-born and naturalized citizens is that the latter may not serve as President of the United States.
Right to remain silent when you have spent time in a terrorist training camp? OK - so it's just a suspicion, but I would imagine that there is some evidence to cause the suspicion.
Club Gitmo sounds like a good place for them to visit for a while until cleared or convicted.
But the oath taken by the naturalized citizen implies a contract. If it's later found that the oath was taken without "good faith", citizenship can be revoked and they can be sent packing. Most recently used with former Nazis who lied to get into the US.
"hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God. In acknowledgement whereof I have hereunto affixed my signature."
What sort of training did they get in Pak? Blowing up an airplane, perhaps?
This is war and I am not one who believes that it is right and proper that an airplane and hundreds of passengers be destroyed in order to spare a terrorist profile fellow's feelings.
Of course. But there is a legal process for addressing such situations, and those who commit fraud in seeking U.S. citzenship may be legally stripped of it.
But the U.S. Government's conduct in this case appears to be outside the law. No U.S. citizen -- naturalized or native-born -- should be stripped of his right to enter our country simply because some government official suspects he has broken a law.
The U.S. Government has not alleged that these two U.S. citizens received terrorist training of any sort, nor has it charged them with any crime.
Ah, that's your angle.
Does anybody know if there are any differences between natural and naturalized citizen? Could it be that naturalized citizens do not enjoy a full complement of rights that people who were born in the US do? Can anyone educate us on the matter?
OK. Thanks.
Sorry for your loss of both your husband and your home.
Illegal aliens are flooding most of the country. Yours just happens to be one of the harder hit areas.
You're on the no-fly list you don't fly. Too bad. Maybe they can swim back.
Oh! Hahahaha...duh. I didn't even notice that.
It will take Congress to change this, but all House bills have died on the floor when ever such was presented.
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