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California Korean grocery group sues Andrew Young over remarks
ap on Riverside Press Enterprise ^ | 8/30/06 | AP - Los Angeles

Posted on 08/30/2006 10:05:45 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

LOS ANGELES

A Korean grocers' group sued former U.N. ambassador Andrew Young for libel for claiming that they and other market owners "ripped off" blacks.

The suit, filed last week in Los Angeles County Superior Court, also names the Wal-Mart store chain and seeks at least $7.5 million in damages.

The former Atlanta mayor resigned as head of a Wal-Mart advocacy group on Aug. 18 amid controversy over comments he made to the weekly, black-owned Los Angeles Sentinel.

In an interview, Young said that Wal-Mart competition had forced smaller, "mom-and-pop" stores out of his neighborhood.

"But you see, those are the people who have been overcharging us, selling us stale bread and bad meat and wilted vegetables," Young said. "And they sold out and moved to Florida. I think they've ripped off our communities enough. First it was Jews, then it was Koreans and now it's Arabs; very few black people own these stores."

He apologized later.

The libel suit was filed by the California Korean American Grocery Retailer Association.

"Most members are very upset," said Gene Park, the association's secretary and owner of a liquor store in Los Angeles. "There is no evidence that members sold those kinds of spoiled items. ... If people think we charge higher prices or sell bad food, they won't come in anymore."

"Until we can finish studying the complaint, it wouldn't be right to comment on it," Wal-Mart spokesman John Simley said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: andrewyoung; blackmarket; blackracism; blackracist; california; grocery; group; korean; lawsuit; racism; racist; remarks; sues; walmart
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1 posted on 08/30/2006 10:05:46 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Andy done crapped in his kim chi.


2 posted on 08/30/2006 10:09:55 AM PDT by shankbear
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To: NormsRevenge

I thought Andrew Young was in prison.


3 posted on 08/30/2006 10:11:17 AM PDT by capt. norm (Bumper Sticker: Honk if you've never seen an Uzi shoot from a car window.)
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To: NormsRevenge

With their filing of a lawsuit because they are racially offended, Korean-American grocers become fully assimilated at last.


4 posted on 08/30/2006 10:11:29 AM PDT by untenured
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To: NormsRevenge
""But you see, those are the people who have been overcharging us, selling us stale bread and bad meat and wilted vegetables," Young said. "And they sold out and moved to Florida. I think they've ripped off our communities enough. First it was Jews, then it was Koreans and now it's Arabs; very few black people own these stores." "

Of course whites are taken to a back room where they can get fresh meat and produce. Blacks will just have to be satisfied with the spoiled and wilted stuff
/sarc
5 posted on 08/30/2006 10:11:58 AM PDT by stm (Good people sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence)
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To: NormsRevenge

Here is the problem, they will probably have civil servants on the jury so they are basically screwed unless they settle.


6 posted on 08/30/2006 10:13:26 AM PDT by Walkingfeather (u)
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To: untenured
ROTFLMAO ~ then there was the day the Rodney King riot took place, and when the bad boys of LA decided to attack Koreatown they discovered all those guys had semi-automatic weapons, and maybe some automatics as well, and whatever it was, they had a lot of them, were organized in military style small unit formations, and were ready to take out tens of thousands of rioting latinos and blacks.

Young should have known to keep his mouth shut about the Koreans ~ they get a bad case about as easy as any people on earth.

7 posted on 08/30/2006 10:15:31 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: NormsRevenge
He apologized later.

Apology NOT ACCEPTED...
8 posted on 08/30/2006 10:15:52 AM PDT by Edgerunner (The greatest impediment to world peace is the UN and the Peaceniks)
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To: muawiyah
The 1992 riots were, in no small part, a pogrom against the Korean business owners in Los Angeles -- particularly in South Central.
9 posted on 08/30/2006 10:17:24 AM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: NormsRevenge
Maybe these other ethnic groups own these businesses because they are willing to put their lives and fortunes at risk to make a moderate profit, serving an ungrateful community that probably would starve if they weren't there to provide a local service that no one else would do.

I wonder how many countless legal immigrants have died in convenience store/gas station robberies at the hands of those who complain about the price and quality of the products that they provide?

Walmart ain't going to put up with that cr@p!
10 posted on 08/30/2006 10:23:37 AM PDT by anymouse
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To: untenured

IMO, sarcastic reply award winner for the day (which is still young). Thank you and congratulations.


11 posted on 08/30/2006 10:26:07 AM PDT by Harrius Magnus (Self-loathing, self-destructive, and selfish = commonalities of Leftists and Jihadists. Not Welcome.)
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To: anymouse
Don't forget that most of the time Wal-Mart tries to open a store in an inner-city neighborhood, the living-wage folks get together with the NIMBY's and keep it out.
12 posted on 08/30/2006 10:26:16 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: BenLurkin; untenured; muawiyah

I heard somewhere that the riots stopped on a Tuesday night because the USPS would not deliver welfare checks into a riot zone (they go out on Wednesdays). Any truth to that?


13 posted on 08/30/2006 10:26:26 AM PDT by printhead
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To: capt. norm

Maybe its his twin. Most of them from the neighborhood are in jail frequently


14 posted on 08/30/2006 10:26:39 AM PDT by sportsterinred
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To: NormsRevenge

The LA riots were stopped by the Koreans with weapons and the US Post Office by forcing the rioters to line up at the post offices to collect their welfare checks.


15 posted on 08/30/2006 10:26:55 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: NormsRevenge

It's just not right...The blacks should have their opportunity to shaft the neighborhoods as well...


16 posted on 08/30/2006 10:27:14 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: NormsRevenge

Just doing jobs that Blacks won,t do.


17 posted on 08/30/2006 10:28:46 AM PDT by BIGZ
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Google Search:

"Andrew Young" "racial slur" = 607 hits
"Joe Biden" "racial slur" = 823 hits
"George Allen" "racial slur" = 90,300 hits


18 posted on 08/30/2006 10:33:00 AM PDT by falcon1966
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To: Walkingfeather
Yes , Andy's jury will most likely nullify the evidence .
19 posted on 08/30/2006 10:36:20 AM PDT by lionheart 247365 (( I.S.L.A.M. stands for - Islams Spiritual Leaders Advocate Murder .. .. .. ))
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To: NormsRevenge
The suit, filed last week in Los Angeles County Superior Court, also names the Wal-Mart store chain and seeks at least $7.5 million in damages.

This, of course, is the point. I expect Wal-Mart will pay them off.

20 posted on 08/30/2006 10:38:52 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: printhead

Probably no truth to it ~ but almost all welfare "checks" all over the country have been on "direct deposit" for quite some time.


21 posted on 08/30/2006 10:41:48 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: falcon1966

And George didn't even utter a cognizable "racial slur". On the other hand, he's the only one on your list with a Jewish mother, and that draws its own crowd.


22 posted on 08/30/2006 10:42:50 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: anymouse
Maybe these other ethnic groups own these businesses because they are willing to put their lives and fortunes at risk to make a moderate profit, serving an ungrateful community that probably would starve if they weren't there to provide a local service that no one else would do.

You are correct. Here in Detroit the black community insists that the US government pays Arabs to come here and "take over" all the small businesses.

Here's the reality:

I know some Iraqi brothers (Chaldeans - Christians, not Moslems) who own a gas station on the east side of Detroit.

They got no government help to buy the gas station. Here's how they did it: Their uncle in Iraq cashed in his insurance policy to buy the 4 brothers airline tickets to Detroit.

When they got here they took a bus from the airport to Hammtramck and rented a sleeping room. Each of them got 2 full time minimum wage jobs (sweeping floors, washing dishes and the like). They lived in a single room for 2 years, only paying rent and buying beans and rice. They did not buy a car, they did not buy a TV, they literally saved almost every dime they made.

After two years of working 16 hours a day, living 4 to one room on beans and rice, they finally had saved enough money to make a down payment on a gas station.

Ten years later they each have a nice home, a nice car and live a decent life.

This option is open to ANYBODY in this country. Any of us can work hard, scrimp and save and go into business for ourselves.

How many of us are actually willing to do it?

It's easy to sit back and complain about "foreigners takeing over all our businesses". It's not so easy to go out and do it for yourself.

With all our problems - America is still the Land of Opportunity - for all.

23 posted on 08/30/2006 10:46:23 AM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: NormsRevenge
This is nucking futs.

Andrew Young is a pos, BUT he was 100% correct in his comment. In Chicago there has been numerous investigations over the years into exactly what Young said - and it was proved correct. Blacks WERE being ripped off by small grocery stores.

The last scam that I recall was that the grocers were messing with the scales. A person would order a pound of lunch meat and they'd get like 3/4 pound. And YES, the produce WAS stale as was the bread.

Young's ONLY mistake was being un p.c. and telling the truth. And yes, Jews were the 1st grocers to do this as typically a Jewish neighborhood (Chicago's West side and South Side) would be the 1st to 'turn black', but the grocers stayed. They then sold to Asians (typically Koreans), and now 'Arabs' own the stores (or vise versa in some areas).

Now this wasn't some organized conspiracy but it WAS a pattern. And yes Wal-Mart does sell food cheaper - duh! I'm sorry the Koreans had their feelings hurt but too bucking fad - it happened and STILL happens in Black neighborhoods.

(Hades must have frozen over, I'm sticking up for Andy Young.)

24 posted on 08/30/2006 11:33:22 AM PDT by Condor51 (Better to fight for something than live for nothing - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: muawiyah
This is the value of compulsory Republic of Korea military training for young men just out of high school. Everyone does it, (unless they are rich enough to escape, or handicapped or retarded) and they learn very valuable lessons on self defense, martial arts, courage and stamina, weapons training, tactics, and military style organization. These are exactly the skill sets you and millions of others saw on live TV from L.A. during Rodney King with the ghetto and barrio boys decided to go picking on the WRONG 'model' minority.

Korean Power. Love it.

25 posted on 08/30/2006 12:18:42 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (..is an American allright, but is not in Japan, folks. Thanks for letting me keep the moniker.)
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To: All

He should be forced to account for his own racism. He has made a career out of accusing others of it.


26 posted on 08/30/2006 12:19:59 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: Tokra
Aint that the truth.

Vietnamese refugees who came here with an ICRC i.d. card, and maybe $500, and little else, 25 years ago, are now largely doctors, lawyers, real estate agents, donut shop chain owners, professors, business people--if not their children and grand children. It puts to rest the yelling from one victimized, lazy segment of the our society that America is somehow inherently rigged against the 'poor' and 'disadvantaged'.

The hard work and RESULTS of some immigrants and minorities are an inconvenient EMBARRASMENT to some other immigrants and minorities in this country.

27 posted on 08/30/2006 12:22:39 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (..is an American allright, but is not in Japan, folks. Thanks for letting me keep the moniker.)
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To: falcon1966

Google Search:

"Andrew Young" "racial slur" = 607 hits
"Joe Biden" "racial slur" = 823 hits
"George Allen" "racial slur" = 90,300 hits


Funny. I thought wow that can't be right. lol. So I took the trust but verify approach and did a search on George Allen myself and found that it is now 128,000. Can you believe that? I am shocked!!!!! I guess that will teach me for not accepting the word from a FREEPER from now on right away.


28 posted on 08/30/2006 12:35:47 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: shankbear

This suit will go nowhere. Democrats can't be touched--it must say so in the rules.


29 posted on 08/30/2006 12:42:21 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: falcon1966
Google Search: "Andrew Young" "racial slur" = 607 hits
"Joe Biden" "racial slur" = 823 hits
"George Allen" "racial slur" = 90,300 hits

"Hillary Clinton" "Racial Slur" = 22,000 hits--better than Young of Biden, but still way behind Allen.

30 posted on 08/30/2006 12:43:11 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: everyone

Wal-Mart isn't to blame. Andy Young is.

By suing Wal-Mart, they are perpetuating the same kind of mentality Young is.


31 posted on 08/30/2006 12:44:08 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: All; AmericanInTokyo

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Even the Governor of California, Gov. ARNOLD, honors the Freedom-loving example set by the Golden State's sterling Vietnamese-American Community:

http://gov.ca.gov/index.php?/press-release/3162/
(Governor's official website's Press-Release & Photo Essay)

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32 posted on 08/30/2006 12:58:20 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.comr)
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To: Condor51
And black people, like the rest of us, are free to shop where they please.

Still, the day of the mini-mart as a primary source for food is over half a century in the past.

33 posted on 08/30/2006 1:51:20 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: AmericanInTokyo
We had 24,000 of the immigrant Vietnamese population in this area pull up stakes and relocate to Oklahoma City a couple of decades ago.

Not that all of them are doing well, but people we know still love OK City.

34 posted on 08/30/2006 1:53:27 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Horatio Gates; Squantos
"YU GO NOW!!! Ping
35 posted on 08/30/2006 1:57:04 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (Life is tough. It's even tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Condor51
Well who isn't corrupt in Chicago (regardless of ethnicity)? :)

When you concentrate poor folks in areas with no easy access to the larger social infrastructure, you set them up to be preyed upon by predatory types of all kinds (mostly of their own kind.)

The petty fraud that you describe has been going on in big cities for at least the last century and usually targets those who are too unsophisticated to realize they are being had, don't have other options or themselves are crooked.

Usually the marketplace takes care of weeding out fraudsters (by legal means or otherwise), but if there is a larger culture of corruption, then this kind of stuff is just part of the landscape.

Same thing happens in 3rd world countries, when the same culture of corruption is the norm.
36 posted on 08/30/2006 1:58:38 PM PDT by anymouse
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To: Horatio Gates; Squantos
"YU GO NOW!!! Ping


37 posted on 08/30/2006 2:00:52 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (Life is tough. It's even tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Tokra
two years of working 16 hours a day, living 4 to one room on beans and rice, they finally had saved enough money to make a down payment on a gas station.

No thank you. I'd rather rob, cheat and steal. It's quicker. Failing that, I'll just try to win the lottery. ;-)

38 posted on 08/30/2006 3:41:00 PM PDT by lowbridge (I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming, like his passengers.)
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To: Tokra
Better idea: Sue the pants off of some rich person.

Whoops! I slipped and fell on the floor of Trump Towers! Whiplash!

39 posted on 08/30/2006 3:43:07 PM PDT by lowbridge (I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming, like his passengers.)
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To: lowbridge
Image hosted by Photobucket.com did you say WHIPLASH???

40 posted on 08/30/2006 4:04:30 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: stm

I love that room. It always smells so nice. Not like the rest of the store.

I love the local gas station owned by the Indian folk. They are nice. The locally owned gas station employees are just blah. Indian people have a certain spice.
I guess they're citizens, I never asked. I'll do that when I fill up in the 'morn.


41 posted on 08/30/2006 4:09:18 PM PDT by Albert Barr (Freedom without intolerance is like a sandwhich without mustard.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Black peole could open their own grocery stores if the wanted.....



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42 posted on 08/30/2006 4:11:15 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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To: ncountylee; printhead

Please.

The riots stopped when, the rioters got tired, and Daryl Gates got off his ass and ordered a full deployment and curfew.


43 posted on 08/30/2006 4:14:36 PM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: muawiyah

.....all those guys had semi-automatic weapons......

I listened to just such a first hand report from a French Quarter Katrina evacuee. The Asians protectected their stores from black looters just as you have described.

He was more or less forced to leave but left a dry apartment and the Asian stores were still occupied on day 11 when he flew to Tennessee.


44 posted on 08/30/2006 4:15:38 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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To: untenured
With their filing of a lawsuit because they are racially offended, Korean-American grocers become fully assimilated at last.""""

LOL - or am I crying? Either way, you've spoken truth.

45 posted on 08/30/2006 4:16:10 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: muawiyah
ROTFLMAO ~ then there was the day the Rodney King riot took place, and when the bad boys of LA decided to attack Koreatown they discovered all those guys had semi-automatic weapons, and maybe some automatics as well, and whatever it was, they had a lot of them, were organized in military style small unit formations, and were ready to take out tens of thousands of rioting latinos and blacks."""

True - and impressive. But before they could organize, the rioters had done a lot of damage to Korean businesses. It was like an anti-Korean pogram.

46 posted on 08/30/2006 4:18:27 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: anymouse
I wonder how many countless legal immigrants have died in convenience store/gas station robberies at the hands of those who complain about the price and quality of the products that they provide?

A lot. I lived in Philly from 85-97. It was common for a Korean or Vietnamese store owner to be shot or killed by a black robber. I recall one sad case of a young girl, engaged to be married, who was killed. No one ever talks about the black on Asian crime in big cities, but it's certainly there. I'm glad I'm out of that hell hole, and I'm a colored gal myself.

47 posted on 08/30/2006 4:20:59 PM PDT by radiohead (Hey Kerry, I'm still here; still hating your lying, stinking, guts you coward.)
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To: ncountylee
The LA riots were stopped by the Koreans with weapons and the US Post Office by forcing the rioters to line up at the post offices to collect their welfare checks."""

Where is this claim reported? Never heard it before.

48 posted on 08/30/2006 4:23:42 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: Tokra
After two years of working 16 hours a day, living 4 to one room on beans and rice, they finally had saved enough money to make a down payment on a gas station.

That's a nice story, but gas stations run between 300K (not including inventory or a lease) to several million dollars. It seems unlikely that they would be able to afford the downpayment (a considerably higher percentage then a home) or be extended credit by a bank since they supposedly never purchased anything and therefore had no credit.

When you see Arabs, Koreans, Chinese, and what have you coming to a America and buying these types of businesses it's genrally because they were middle class to upper middle class business owners in their own countries. They sold everything, came here and bought something.

The poor do not escape from China, Iran, Iraq, Korea, etc.

49 posted on 08/30/2006 4:24:34 PM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: madprof98
This, of course, is the point. I expect Wal-Mart will pay them off.

It is very smart on the Koreans' part. Why settle for a phony apology?
50 posted on 08/30/2006 4:45:09 PM PDT by kenavi (Save romance. Stop teen sex.)
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