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Ancient Gold Coins Found In Kyrgyz Mountain Lake
Novosti ^ | 8-30-2006

Posted on 08/30/2006 10:29:12 AM PDT by blam

Ancient gold coins found in Kyrgyz mountain lake

16:34 | 30/ 08/ 2006

BISHKEK, August 30 (RIA Novosti) - Possibly the world's most ancient gold coin has been discovered in a high mountain lake in Kyrgyzstan, the chief of an archeological expedition said Wednesday.

Academic Vladimir Ploskikh said an expedition from the Kyrgyz-Russian Slavic University found a 70-gram octagonal gold artifact on the northern side of Lake Issuk-Kul.

"This is probably the earliest form of metal money found in Central Asia, and may have served as an archetype for later gold coins," he said. "If this [hypothesis] is confirmed, the find will have a unique worldwide historical and cultural significance as a prototype for gold money."

The archeologists also recovered from the lake bronze daggers, sickles and hatchets, as well as household implements and jewelry dating back to approximately 1,000 BC.

Ploskikh said the finds could mark a "new page in history."


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ancient; coins; found; godsgravesglyphs; gold; kyrgyz; mountain

1 posted on 08/30/2006 10:29:14 AM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping.


2 posted on 08/30/2006 10:29:49 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

70 grams? That's hugh [sic].


3 posted on 08/30/2006 10:30:18 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: blam

Interesting, I wonder how they got into the lake.


4 posted on 08/30/2006 10:32:01 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: 1rudeboy

Thats about a couple of troy ounces if it is pure gold. As bullion alone its around $1200


5 posted on 08/30/2006 10:34:57 AM PDT by xp38
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To: No Blue States

Ancient charioteer Teddius Kennadius had a slight mishap after leaving the king's banquet..........


6 posted on 08/30/2006 10:36:01 AM PDT by Red Badger (Is Castro dead yet?........)
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7 posted on 08/30/2006 10:36:29 AM PDT by martin_fierro (B A H O G)
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To: Red Badger

LOL

They will soon discover his ancient brass whiskey jug.

The headline says coinS, but the article says coin...
I wonder if they stashed a few.

Maybe the lake wasnt there at the time the items were deposited...or it washed into the lake over the centuries..


9 posted on 08/30/2006 10:39:30 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: No Blue States

Maybe it was a sacrifice to the gods or some such event......


10 posted on 08/30/2006 10:42:41 AM PDT by Red Badger (Is Castro dead yet?........)
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To: blam

A picture would be nice.

The world's previous oldest coin was made of electrum, a gold and silver alloy.

11 posted on 08/30/2006 10:43:57 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: fffff

Get off the crack mack, your claim is wack!


12 posted on 08/30/2006 10:44:00 AM PDT by RedRightReturn (Even a broken clock is right twice a day...)
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To: No Blue States

According to ancient legends, there are four lost cities under the lake. While a lot of the myth is just that, it does appear that the lake changed level at some point and flooded out the civilization that previously lived along its shores. Treasure hunters and archaeologists have worked the area for centuries looking to validate the legends and get rich at the same time. While they have made some interesting finds, it's likely that the four "cities" were really just villages of some sort. I would assume that these coins and artifacts belonged to the people who lived there before the shoreline rose.

Nowadays, the shoreline is dropping by about 2 inches a year, so lots of previously deep areas are gradually becoming accessible.

For those not familiar with this particular lake, it's the second largest mountain lake on the planet, and it's about the size of Lake Ontario.


13 posted on 08/30/2006 10:47:39 AM PDT by Arthalion
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To: Arthalion
Wow, thats fascinating. Thanks. Maybe a glacier melted and flooded their villages.

Ive always been into artifacts and treasure, havent found much but a few arrowheads:

I wonder what those brass daggers look like.

14 posted on 08/30/2006 10:54:00 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: Arthalion

Sounds like the Quabbin Reservoir in Mass. There are four lost towns under that man-made lake, but alas, no gold yet.


17 posted on 08/30/2006 10:57:26 AM PDT by Big Digger (I)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

Hey! That's the button I lost off my coat last winter!!


18 posted on 08/30/2006 10:58:24 AM PDT by Twinkie (Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.)
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19 posted on 08/30/2006 11:00:06 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, August 10, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
... found a 70-gram octagonal gold artifact on the northern side of Lake Issuk-Kul.

Just one of these...never mind ;-)


20 posted on 08/30/2006 11:03:44 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: No Blue States

"Interesting, I wonder how they got into the lake."



A drunken coin-skipping dare that went horribly wrong.


21 posted on 08/30/2006 11:05:23 AM PDT by freedomlover (This tagline has been pulled - - - - Okay?)
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To: blam

(Bush's fault)


22 posted on 08/30/2006 11:05:55 AM PDT by BaBaStooey (I heart Emma Caulfield.)
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To: SunkenCiv; blam

What civilization produced these artifacts?


23 posted on 08/30/2006 11:09:01 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: 1rudeboy

thats some series coin!


24 posted on 08/30/2006 11:10:05 AM PDT by rahbert
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To: colorado tanker
a 70-gram octagonal gold artifact on the northern side of Lake Issuk-Kul... The archeologists also recovered from the lake bronze daggers, sickles and hatchets, as well as household implements and jewelry dating back to approximately 1,000 BC.
No civ is known which made what we'd call coins until about 700 BC (Kingdom of Lydia, in Anatolia). My wild guess is, the octagonal gold artifact was some kind of decoration, an ostentatious show of success. This looks like it's on the silk route. Lake Issuk-kul probably got its name because the water is so cold. Little joke. [west end of Issuk-Kul]
25 posted on 08/30/2006 11:20:11 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, August 10, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: No Blue States

Nice points! Where are you located? Where did you find them?


26 posted on 08/30/2006 11:28:21 AM PDT by navyguy
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To: navyguy

Thanks..Im in Texas, all of those were found within 150 miles of the DFW area.

Rivers, lake shores, plowed fields, and ATV trails.

But the Paleos were found at a construction site.
There was no evidence of water nearby, strange...there must have been a spring back when they camped there because it was more than a hunting camp...too big for that.

A subdivision is there now, no doubt homeowners digging their flower beds have found a few nice ones.


27 posted on 08/30/2006 11:32:31 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: rahbert
Oh keep clam, it's not like they found a cheese eating møøse.
28 posted on 08/30/2006 11:33:05 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Deliberate ignorance is a sad thing to witness.)
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To: freedomlover

lol

Someone made a very serious wish before tossing it into
the lake.


29 posted on 08/30/2006 11:33:23 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: SunkenCiv
It does seem rather high in elevation to be attractive to a purely agricultural community, so the Silk Road makes sense. Possibly connecting with trade routes to steppe peoples to the north as well.
30 posted on 08/30/2006 11:33:42 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: blam

Most ancient coins & most ancient sandals, right here on FR


31 posted on 08/30/2006 11:38:22 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Cold Heart
"Most ancient coins & most ancient sandals, right here on FR"

You bet. We got'em.

32 posted on 08/30/2006 11:40:13 AM PDT by blam
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To: No Blue States

Spring thaw can be a real b!tch sometimes...


33 posted on 08/30/2006 11:53:29 AM PDT by GoLightly
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To: blam
Kyrgyz

Maybe it will be worth enough to finally let them buy some vowels.

34 posted on 08/30/2006 12:04:55 PM PDT by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1600 knives and counting!)
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To: GoLightly

Spring thaw can be a real b!tch sometimes...




My dad was raised in Chicago, but ended up a DamnYankee. He used to tell us stories about how as a kid he and buddies knew where to start poking around for lost change in melting snow. I don't know if that was BS but it sounded pretty cool to a Ga kid who rarely saw over an inch of snow.


35 posted on 08/30/2006 12:06:24 PM PDT by freedomlover (This tagline has been pulled - - - - Okay?)
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My precious!

36 posted on 08/30/2006 12:07:37 PM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: Twinkie

I've got a couple of the others.

Was it a nice coat?


37 posted on 08/30/2006 12:36:00 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

LOL!!

That's the first coin I thought of.


38 posted on 08/30/2006 12:36:37 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: freedomlover
Did your dad ever say anything about the Polar Bear "club"? They only meet one day of the year. New Years Day, a number of people take a dip in Lake Michigan.

Most areas don't stay covered with snow all winter, every winter where I live & I'm north of Chicago. The big piles created by snow plows usually last all season, specially the ones by big parking lots. Can't say I ever found any buried coins, but finding the snow shovel again in the spring... snow plows seem to come around the moment you take a break from shoveling out the last batch of hard frozen joy they've ditched at the end of your driveway.

As soon as lakes freeze around here, many become populated with ice shanties, from the very basic to some quite elaborate dwellings. Every spring some of them fall through the melting ice.

Fish cribs are placed or built on the ice of some lakes. It's easier to get huge logs out in the middle of a lake when you can walk & drive your truck on the lake. In the spring, nature takes its course & the good game fish have a new place to breed.

Some of my Norwegian ancestors operated a couple of huge saw mills & a portion of handling logs involved sledding them. When you're talking about big timber for the ship building industry & horse power involved horses, a northern climate was very helpful.

I don't know if the lake in the article freezes over very often, cuz of its size. I couldn't ignore the possibility... Oh look, here's a nice flat place to build our village. :o)
39 posted on 08/30/2006 12:53:51 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: GoLightly

My father's father was from Finland so you and I have something in common.

Don't know about the PBClub but I know I won't jump in a pool that is 60 degrees much less friggen freezing


40 posted on 08/30/2006 12:59:05 PM PDT by freedomlover (This tagline has been pulled - - - - Okay?)
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To: freedomlover

I think the PBClub is nutz. If they took their dip later in the season, they'd be really nutz. Sixty degrees is way too cold for my delicate self.


41 posted on 08/30/2006 1:30:53 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

Nope, the coat wasn't all that nice, but the buttons were fantastic. I always thought they looked like they belonged on a much more expensive coat. - I wonder how I might go about reclaiming these "buttons"?


42 posted on 08/30/2006 4:25:17 PM PDT by Twinkie (Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.)
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To: No Blue States

cool arrowheads.


43 posted on 08/30/2006 8:19:33 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Leaning on the everlasting arms.)
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To: Twinkie

If they're in bad shape you can probably get one for $500 or so.

To get one that's like the picture could run you as much as $5000.

Anyone interested in collecting ancient coins should spend a couple hundred dollars on coin books first. It will save you a lot of money and headaches.


44 posted on 08/31/2006 5:34:43 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

I just wanted to reclaim my coat buttons. I can't afford to buy anything.


45 posted on 08/31/2006 8:47:07 AM PDT by Twinkie (Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.)
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To: Twinkie

LOL!


46 posted on 08/31/2006 9:56:52 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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