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Barkley sounds off on gay rights, religion and Katrina
AP, ESPN ^ | August 30, 2006

Posted on 08/30/2006 8:39:02 PM PDT by Dane

NEW YORK -- Charles Barkley was his usual outspoken self during a recent television interview in which he said, among other things, that he advocates gay marriage, believes Republicans have screwed up the country and is "struggling with my idea of what religion is."

The former NBA MVP, who is considering running as a Democratic candidate for governor in his home state of Alabama, also said Democrats have concentrated too much on criticizing President Bush in the last two years instead of focusing on what they can do to improve things in the country.

"They're criticizing a guy who can't run again, who can't get fired," Barkley said during an appearance on "CMI: The Chris Meyers Interview," which will air on Sunday night on Fox SportsNet. "So they spent the last two years criticizing him instead of saying, 'Some things aren't right. This is our game plan.' And now we're two years away from the election, and we have no solutions and no front-runner."

Barkley was a Republican until recently, saying he switched parties when the Republicans "lost their minds." He said he is troubled by some of the actions of people in the United States in the name of religion.

"Religious people in general are so discriminatory against other people, and that really disturbs me," he said. "My idea of religion is we all love and respect. We all sin, but we still have common decency and respect for other people. So right now I'm struggling with my idea of what religion is."

He also said he supports gay marriage.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: barkley; homosexualagenda; idiot; nba
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Hey Charles, politics is the real world, not the pampered PC gobledygook world of the NBA.
1 posted on 08/30/2006 8:39:04 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Dane

I wish that you read this Chuckie boy. You are an idiot, DUrat and your golf swing sucks.


2 posted on 08/30/2006 8:42:34 PM PDT by shankbear
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To: Dane

Barkley a gubner? lol.


3 posted on 08/30/2006 8:51:31 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: Dane

A role model, he isn't ...


4 posted on 08/30/2006 8:51:59 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: John Lenin

Arrogant! I loathe arrogance, because no one ever lives up to it.

Ole Charles makes me want to use the F word to tell him where to get off.

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5 posted on 08/30/2006 8:59:02 PM PDT by Shimmer128 (I see dumb people, they're everywhere. They don't even know they're dumb.)
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To: Dane
Barkley was a Republican until recently, saying he switched parties when the Republicans "lost their minds".

He may have a point about [some] republicans but just wait until he finds out what democrats are really about.
6 posted on 08/30/2006 9:00:13 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: Dane

"Democratic candidate for governor in his home state of Alabama, also said Democrats have concentrated too much on criticizing President Bush in the last two years instead of focusing on what they can do to improve things in the country.

"They're criticizing a guy who can't run again"

I'm glad all the dems aren't thinking like this. Even though his views are wrong, he seems to know what he's doing strategically.

7 posted on 08/30/2006 9:00:45 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: Dane

If I know anything about Alabama.... an article like this isn't going to do you any good, politically speaking.


8 posted on 08/30/2006 9:03:24 PM PDT by sdk7x7 ("This time I think the Americans are serious. Bush is not like Clinton. I think this is the end.")
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To: KoRn
I'm glad all the dems aren't thinking like this. Even though his views are wrong, he seems to know what he's doing strategically.

That is ture, but he is still offering up the same old democrat mantra of not promoting any new policies and criticizing people for their religion.

9 posted on 08/30/2006 9:03:39 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane
Very true. I think I was surprised to see a democrat who has managed to get off of step one by realizing Bush isn't running again. I'm still shocked lol.
10 posted on 08/30/2006 9:08:06 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: Liberty Valance
He may have a point about [some] republicans but just wait until he finds out what democrats are really about.

Y'know, that's how I see it, too.

I'm with him, on his opinion of the R party. I'm politically conservative. Conservative meant as in "conservative with our money". Careful. Deliberate. Plodding. Always moving forward one step at a time.

Socially, I could give a rat's bum. Live and let live. Drugs, consentual sex, etc. As long as it isn't a problem to me and mine, do what you want.

Therefore, I'm not really welcome in the R party.

But I vote R 85% of the time -- because I can't believe what the D party is. And it isn't the 'liberals' so much. They're just fun to talk to, now.

It's these new, self-styled "progressives". They don't even like the old-school liberals. They are the ones that have made the D party so scary. They believe they can say things like "Katrina was Bush's fault" and "Bush Lied" without anyone noticing that it just isn't true.

11 posted on 08/30/2006 9:09:01 PM PDT by Dominic Harr (Conservative: The "ant", to a liberal's "grasshopper".)
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To: Dane
[Barkley] said Democrats have concentrated too much on criticizing President Bush in the last two years instead of focusing on what they can do to improve things in the country.

...

"So they spent the last two years criticizing him [President Bush] instead of saying, 'Some things aren't right. This is our game plan.' And now we're two years away from the election, and we have no solutions and no front-runner."

Even Barkley, who appears to not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, can see the problem the RAT organization can't: they have no game plan. Oh, Nancy rattles on about the American Dream, etc. But I've not seen any concrete, realistic, group tested, written down on paper plan.

Have you?

And I wonder how The Hildabeaste reacted to Sir Charles' claim that the RATS have no front runner? Maybe he's smarter than we thought? LOL!!

12 posted on 08/30/2006 9:15:39 PM PDT by upchuck (Q:Why does President Bush support amnesty for illegal aliens? A:Read this: http://tinyurl.com/nyvno)
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To: Dane
Who gives a .......... what someone like him thinks?

Why should anybody care what any celebrity thinks about anything?

If I want to know about basketball, I'll ask this mental midget. If I want to know about anything even remotely cerebral, I'll ask somebody else.

13 posted on 08/30/2006 9:17:38 PM PDT by LouAvul
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To: Dane

would ALA elect a black republican for gov. ?


14 posted on 08/30/2006 9:18:53 PM PDT by stylin19a
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To: Dane

Makes you wonder why he got involved with dwarf tossing.


15 posted on 08/30/2006 9:25:11 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: LouAvul



A former felons basketball league player wants to run for Governor of Glabama?

Good luck charles, hire Schrum as your campaign manager, you'll go far....


16 posted on 08/30/2006 9:26:32 PM PDT by p[adre29 (Arma in armatos)
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To: Dane

Tell us something that isn't inane, Barkley. What a chucklehead. Is there not one person around you who is honest with you and says, Charles, you are out of your league? Or is everyone afraid of being called a racist?


17 posted on 08/30/2006 9:27:58 PM PDT by macamadamia ("You've been ruining everybody's lives and eating all our steak!")
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To: Dane
couple of points:

The former NBA MVP, who is considering running as a Democratic candidate for governor in his home state of Alabama.....

Newsflash, sparky: there's nothing democratic about the Democrat party. In evidence, I give you exhibit A: the shameful treatment and shunning of Joe Lieberman by his own party for daring to exercise his right to run as an Independent candidate and for supporting what in his opinion is best for the country.

"Religious people in general are so discriminatory against other people, and that really disturbs me," he said.

Someone should give CB a copy of the latest talking points. Ahem.... "As many "religious" people have a "D" on their voter card as have an "R"." Religious Republican. Open your eyes, doofus, long enough to notice exhibit B: the number of proudly open homosexual ministers in their various denominations, sects, cults, and yes even religions.

"My idea of religion is we all love and respect. We all sin, but we still have common decency and respect for other people. So right now I'm struggling with my idea of what religion is."

Sounds like a good start actually. (although, strangely, I'm channeling Mr. Rogers speaking with Lady Aberlin here) Just don't forget to add the salt with all that sugar, CB. Decency and respect for others, BTW, is also known as morals, and is not a mutually exclusive concept with "hating the sin while still loving the sinner".

18 posted on 08/30/2006 9:31:13 PM PDT by YankeeinOkieville (Clinton will be recorded in history as the only President to do Hanky-Panky between the Bushes.)
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To: Dane

Charles, the dems criticize Bush cause they DON'T have a plan either! Don't you understand that?


19 posted on 08/30/2006 9:35:40 PM PDT by blondee123
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To: YankeeinOkieville; All
..."He's right," Charles Barkley said of Mellencamp. "The word conservative means discriminatory practically. It's a form of political discrimination. What do the Republicans run on? Against gay marriage and for a war that makes no sense. A war that was based on faulty intelligence. That's all they ever talk about. That and immigration. Another discriminatory argument for political gain."

In mid show Friday night, Mellencamp introduced a song with "This next one is for all the poor people who've been ignored by the current administration," according to witnesses.

Quayle almost immediately marched towards the exit from his high profile seat at the outdoor venue.

"I didn't appreciate the comment and besides I didn't think the show was very good," Quayle told an observer as he bolted.

Barkley argued that attacking George W. Bush is a waste of energy that frustrates him, but he wasn't going to dispute the premise.

"The Democrats have done a horrible job," Barkley said. "A really crappy job. They spend all this time and energy getting on George Bush. They're going after a guy who's on the way out in two years no matter what they say anyways. He can't run again. He can't get fired. Why are you worrying about him?

"Democrats have wasted the last two years going after this guy and two years from another election, we don't have a frontrunner or a plan."

Hearing Barkley saying "we" with the Democrats would be surprise to many. For years, the NBA Hall of Famer was a very public card carrying member of the Republican party.

Link

So Barkley thinks that the word conservative means "discrimination".

20 posted on 08/30/2006 9:35:41 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane

Timeline

20 Feb 1963 Charles Barkley born, Leeds, AL.
1984 Drafted fifth, Philadelphia 76'ers.
21 Dec 1991 Arrested in Milwaukee for disorderly conduct, after breaking Joseph McCarthy's nose in a bar.
Jun 1992 Acquitted of assault charge resulting from his December arrest.
7 Jul 1996 Jeb Tyler files an assault complaint against Barkley over an altercation in The Basement, a Cleveland dance bar. Tyler: "He said it like three times, 'You got to leave.' I said, 'No, I'm not leaving the bar.' Then I said, 'How about you leave the bar?' As soon as I said that, he punched me in the nose."
2 Aug 1997 Jury rejects Jeb Tyler's claim of $550,000 against Barkley, over the July 1996 bar fight.
26 Oct 1997 Basketball great Charles Barkley is charged with aggravated battery and resisting arrest after throwing 20-year-old man Jorge Lugo through a plate glass window in an Orlando, Florida dance club. Barkley later tells reporters: "I regret we weren't on a higher floor."
19 Apr 2000 Retires from NBA basketball. "Now I'm just what America needs: another unemployed black man."
1 Oct 2002 Book, I May Be Wrong, But I Doubt It.

21 posted on 08/30/2006 9:38:49 PM PDT by blondee123
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To: sdk7x7

You know something about Alabama. LOL


22 posted on 08/30/2006 9:39:24 PM PDT by Condor 63
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To: Dane

He sounds quite stupid.


23 posted on 08/30/2006 9:40:25 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: Dane

Who cares? Basketball sucks. : )


24 posted on 08/30/2006 9:42:31 PM PDT by Tim Long (I spit in the face of people who don't want to be cool.)
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To: stylin19a

You damn right they would as long as he was a CONSERVATIVE.But chuck wont stand a chance.


25 posted on 08/30/2006 9:47:28 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: Liberty Valance

Judging from his sense of loyalty, he's a perfect fit for the democrats.


26 posted on 08/30/2006 9:56:01 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: KoRn

"They're criticizing a guy who can't run again"

Lookee here, Barkley's too smart to be a moonbat.
I hope he wises up more and becomes a Republican again.


27 posted on 08/30/2006 10:02:20 PM PDT by WOSG (Broken-glass time, Republicans! Save the Congress!)
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To: Dominic Harr

It's these new, self-styled "progressives". They don't even like the old-school liberals. They are the ones that have made the D party so scary. They believe they can say things like "Katrina was Bush's fault" and "Bush Lied" without anyone noticing that it just isn't true."

It's worse.

THEY DONT CARE IF IT IS TRUE. Ends justifies means and all. Read between lines of dailyKos banter and their willingness to do anything (lie, steal, cheat) to win comes out - mixed in with the moral smugness that they are morally superior to us on the 'right' who want normal civilization.

Horowitz's FrontPage mag is all over the Gramscian roots of the new left.


28 posted on 08/30/2006 10:05:49 PM PDT by WOSG (Broken-glass time, Republicans! Save the Congress!)
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To: blondee123

Barkley was on Howard Stern years ago and talked about his exploits at sex parties at Donald Trumps home.

He's all yours democrats!


29 posted on 08/30/2006 10:06:33 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Dane

Maybe it's like this:

When he was a high income worker paying bigtime taxes, he was GOP.
Now that he is a loafer, he fits more with Democrats.


30 posted on 08/30/2006 10:07:29 PM PDT by WOSG (Broken-glass time, Republicans! Save the Congress!)
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To: Dane

"Charles Barkley was his usual outspoken self during a recent television interview in which he said, among other things, that he advocates gay marriage, believes Republicans have screwed up the country and is "struggling with my idea of what religion is."


Honestly, who cares what this idiot has to say? At least 5 years out of the NBA and he is still running his mouth. Can't he just shut up?


31 posted on 08/30/2006 10:27:59 PM PDT by FarRightFanatic
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To: Dane

IQ of 13


32 posted on 08/30/2006 10:50:21 PM PDT by pissant
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To: Dane

PWN3D!!

33 posted on 08/30/2006 10:56:18 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (404 Page Error Found)
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To: WOSG
"When he was a high income worker paying bigtime taxes, he was GOP.
Now that he is a loafer, he fits more with Democrats."

Unfortunately that doesn't necessarily change his tax bracket. It could if he didn't have as much income and most of his money was invested in tax deferred investments. This is a problem for me. While it is popular on free republic to discount the import of the middle, I firmly believe the middle has a decisive impact. I recognize that motivating the base is imperative I also believe that winning over the populace is equally if not more imperative critical. Barkley is an honest and straight speaking individual, whether anybody questions his intelligence or not. I like him. This is likely a non event but in no way should it be discounted entirely.
34 posted on 08/30/2006 10:57:41 PM PDT by Bogeygolfer
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To: WOSG
I hope he wises up more and becomes a Republican again.

Who needs a back-stabbing traitor like him? I hope the dhimms keep him!
35 posted on 08/30/2006 10:58:01 PM PDT by snuffy smiff (All skill is in vain when an Angel pisses in the flintlock of yer musket.)
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To: Dane
The Menu never changes at these joints....


36 posted on 08/30/2006 11:02:49 PM PDT by Dallas59 (ISLAMOFASCISM!!!!)
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To: pissant
"IQ of 13"

Not even close to reality. A healthy dose of denial sure. This is the equivalent of saying Bush has an IQ of 14...neither of which is true. As a Larry Bird die hard fan I have followed Charles. He is nothing if not plain speaking and very straight forward. Ignore this if you will but I don't like it. I think this is likely a non story but losing a Repub is never good. Console yourself that he was a RHINO or a dem all along but don't fool yourself. We need all votes and the name of the game is how well we sell the truth and converting folks who are dems or in the middle. It doesn't begin and end with get out the base. We need to grow the base.
37 posted on 08/30/2006 11:04:22 PM PDT by Bogeygolfer
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To: Bogeygolfer

RGink what you want. He's a buffoon. ALways has been.


38 posted on 08/30/2006 11:06:14 PM PDT by pissant
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To: WOSG

OH that is hilarious!!; I wish I'd thought of that!


39 posted on 08/30/2006 11:07:02 PM PDT by Proud2BAmerican
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To: pissant

RGink = think


40 posted on 08/30/2006 11:07:36 PM PDT by pissant
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To: Dominic Harr

Why would anyone vote for a person like Charles for anything? If he gambled away millons of his own money what would he do with the taxpayers money?


41 posted on 08/30/2006 11:30:18 PM PDT by jerry639
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To: pissant

My general points are that we need to expand the base and not to jump to the conclusion that someone who disagrees or becomes disenchanted is therefore an idiot. I don't mean to imply you are calling the man an idiot merely because his change of view but many are. I've never found him particularly intelligent but I've always enjoyed his refreshing straight talk. He doesn't get coy or play games. It's refreshing given the times. I've also seen him on TV several dozen times and never left with the impression he's lacking in intelligence. I'm open to evidence to the contrary but you're not going to find it easily, nor in conservative circles as he's often a poster boy for being black, conservative and outspoken.


42 posted on 08/30/2006 11:33:43 PM PDT by Bogeygolfer
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To: Dane

What do we expect from a NBA player?

Barkley is a mental midget and living in his own fantasy, absolutely clueless about politics and society.


43 posted on 08/30/2006 11:41:58 PM PDT by GregH
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To: Dallas59

Could we change the second to last one, to "The If Kerry were president WAFFLE"?

Good list, nonetheless.

As for Charles Barkley, he said something in 1987, while a member of the 76ers, that perfectly symbolizes his new affiliation with the Democrats:

"Bad team, man...we're just a bad f**kin' team."


44 posted on 08/31/2006 12:24:16 AM PDT by Christian4Bush ("Ma'am, you don't have to thank us. You just go beat him for us." Soldier to Irey re: Murtha)
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To: Dane
He also said he supports gay marriage. Got your eye on someone, Charles?
45 posted on 08/31/2006 12:29:25 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Dominic Harr
Conservative meant as in "conservative with our money"... Live and let live. Drugs, consentual sex, etc. As long as it isn't a problem to me and mine, do what you want.

So the outrageous medical welfare given to AIDS patients, teenage pregnancies with outrageous lavashing of public dollars to support them, drunk/drugged driving deaths with accidents and higher insurance rates, the lack of motivated people to develop new technologies due to drug addiction and the SSI/identity theft scams they use is not a problem for you?

It is a much longer list... and illegal immigration contributes to all of it as well...

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They believe they can say things like "Katrina was Bush's fault"..

They are on drugs... but, that isn't a problem for you, remember?

Besides, we all know Katrina was the result of that super secret Halliburton hurricane machine from an undisclosed location in Dick Cheney's basement... and Jeb Bush has no business letting any hurricane get past Florida to begin with...

47 posted on 08/31/2006 2:36:56 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: GregH; Dominic Harr
Barkley is a mental midget and living in his own fantasy, absolutely clueless about politics and society.

A lot of those athletes have lingering effects from steroids and other drugs... Barkley is no different I would suspect... I wonder if he parties with Kobe Bryant or Dennis Rodman...

48 posted on 08/31/2006 2:42:26 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Dominic Harr
"Socially, I could give a rat's bum. Live and let live. Drugs, consentual sex, etc. As long as it isn't a problem to me and mine, do what you want."

Translation: "I'm a flaming liberal."

49 posted on 08/31/2006 2:49:00 AM PDT by Godebert
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To: YankeeinOkieville

So, Barkley joins an anti-Semetic/pro-terrorist party.

Does anybody know Barkley's "Rules for Autographs?" He really slams the fans with his observations; it would help his public image...not.


50 posted on 08/31/2006 2:49:34 AM PDT by Loud Mime (An undefeated enemy is still an enemy.......war has a purpose.)
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