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Student can wear Bush-mocking T-shirt: court
Herald Sun ^ | 31 August 2006

Posted on 08/30/2006 9:00:34 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher

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Don't yer love the 'justice' system?
1 posted on 08/30/2006 9:00:35 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher
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To: Aussie Dasher

What about shirts that support Bush?

Ah never mind that question.


2 posted on 08/30/2006 9:01:53 PM PDT by Mrs.Nooseman (Proud supporter of our Troops and President GW!!!)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Yeah I am sure as a 12,13, maybe 14 year old these are HIS views and not you know his parents.


3 posted on 08/30/2006 9:03:35 PM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by there fruity little club.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Forget dress code, that kid needs a good, solid, parental ass-whoopin'!


4 posted on 08/30/2006 9:03:56 PM PDT by Rawlings (Tipton Time!)
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To: Aussie Dasher

I hope the "justice" system will be equally eager to protect the rights of one or two kids to express their displeasure towards this punk.


5 posted on 08/30/2006 9:04:19 PM PDT by JRios1968 (This kid knows how to wallop a baseball!!!!!!)
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To: Aussie Dasher

The kid.

6 posted on 08/30/2006 9:05:29 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Rawlings
Forget dress code, that kid needs a good, solid, parental ass-whoopin'!

Or a whoopin' delivered by peers.

7 posted on 08/30/2006 9:06:59 PM PDT by Numbers Guy
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To: Aussie Dasher

Call some toadie macaca and all hell breaks loose, but the left mocks on a daily basis without repercussion.

George is a monkey, Condi is a Parrot, Tony is a Poodle, its all good because the left would never belittle someone or mock them.



8 posted on 08/30/2006 9:07:37 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Aussie Dasher

The Christians in that school need to start exercising their "free speech" too!


9 posted on 08/30/2006 9:07:46 PM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Thank God he wasnt wearing an American flag shirt. He would have been suspended!


10 posted on 08/30/2006 9:07:55 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather be carrying a shotgun with Dick, than riding shotgun with a Kennedyl! *-0(:~{>)
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To: Rawlings
Forget dress code, that kid needs a good, solid, parental ass-whoopin'!

From this site:

At 14, Zachary Guiles is a focused and thoughtful citizen. He plays first trombone in the Vermont Youth Symphony Orchestra, likes to ride his dirt bike and to read — especially Michael Moore’s books. And he has a good relationship with both of his parents. ...

Meanwhile, Zach is getting on with his own life. Last year was the first time he had been in public school for several years. He is back to being home-schooled this year, although he attends music classes and plays in the school band at Williamstown Middle High School. ...

Tim Guiles said he is not surprised that his son is at the center of a First Amendment firestorm.

“I’ve been involved as an environmental activist for years, and I’ve brought Zach to anti-nuclear protests,” Guiles said. “He has grown up with activism around him … It’s really a natural progression to find this cropping up in his life.”


11 posted on 08/30/2006 9:10:04 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls

A few good belts in the ear should help him no-end!


12 posted on 08/30/2006 9:10:20 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: Aussie Dasher

The court was right; the kid has a right to express even offensive and boorish opinions.

The real story is that some poor seventh grader got brainwashed by his parent's sick delusions and dragged into a protracted court battle as a pawn for the moonbat left. I was around that age when Clinton was first elected; I was aware my parents didn't exactly like him but they certainly didn't shove it down my throat like this kid's parents did. Even if they had there's no way in he** they'd have let me wear a shirt like that with Clinton (or anyone else) on it.


13 posted on 08/30/2006 9:11:34 PM PDT by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Hopefully he'll be sporting Matching Black eyes and a wedgie too...whadda fug...


14 posted on 08/30/2006 9:11:59 PM PDT by RadioCirca1970
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To: Aussie Dasher

Would they have ruled the same way if it was a tshirt with Clinton on it pushing a wheelbarrow with Chinese campaign money in it?


15 posted on 08/30/2006 9:12:01 PM PDT by cardinal4 (America, despite the usual suspects, stands firmly with Israel..)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Why is a seventh grade wearing clothes with alcohol and drugs? That is against any policy that I would find around my area. Ridiculous.


16 posted on 08/30/2006 9:13:33 PM PDT by Augie Doggy
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To: Mrs.Nooseman
What about shirts that support Bush?

Actually - that is JUST what should now happen across the country. Get your kids Bush shirts - the court has ruled! How could they then say that PRO bush shirts are offensive while slanderous ones aren't?

Indeed, this ruling could be used to wear shirts with all kinds of messages from our side - can't beat 'em? Thney just gave us a weapon. Use their own methods against 'em

17 posted on 08/30/2006 9:14:04 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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To: FreedomCalls

Those parents need a good, solid, ass-whoopin'. Why am I not surprised. I'm a son-of-a-boomer and I'm pretty conservative. A lot of my collegiate peers are also conservative. Most kids are pretty pissed about what ninnies their parents are.

The kid looks real fruity. I'm betting he's already been beaten just for wearing that crappy jacket.


18 posted on 08/30/2006 9:14:26 PM PDT by Rawlings (Tipton Time!)
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To: FreedomCalls
“I’ve been involved as an environmental activist for years, and I’ve brought Zach to anti-nuclear protests,” Guiles said. “He has grown up with activism around him … It’s really a natural progression to find this cropping up in his life.”

Yep, just like I said in post 13. Poor kid never had a chance to form an independent thought.

The only bright side I see is that he's just about at the age where he'll start to rebel, and since his parents appear to be as far out there as it gets, the only way he can rebel is to become an America-loving, pro-capitalist, preppy Reaganite conservative :-p

19 posted on 08/30/2006 9:15:33 PM PDT by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Good thing he didn't have a two inch tall plastic Army man with bayonet.

Zero tolerance would have gotten him tossed.


20 posted on 08/30/2006 9:16:07 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: FreedomCalls

One would hope that when he's older and free from his lunatic parents the kid will be able to think for himself and look back on this part of his life as when he was young and stupid. And drive his parents nuts by voting Republican...


21 posted on 08/30/2006 9:16:09 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Common sense will do to liberalism what the atomic bomb did to Nagasaki-Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Rawlings
Forget dress code, that kid needs a good, solid, parental ass-whoopin'!

by whom?

the same parents that probably provided the shirt and then took it all the way to the supreme court?

A good solid ass-whoopin is needed - on the parents

22 posted on 08/30/2006 9:16:15 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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To: Aussie Dasher

The triumph of tawdry demoralizing low-class behavior.

We are become a nation of slobs.


23 posted on 08/30/2006 9:16:38 PM PDT by WOSG (Broken-glass time, Republicans! Save the Congress!)
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To: Turbopilot

It worked for Alex Keaton : )


24 posted on 08/30/2006 9:17:00 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Common sense will do to liberalism what the atomic bomb did to Nagasaki-Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Yes I do. We live in America, not the Soviet Union.


25 posted on 08/30/2006 9:17:01 PM PDT by The Cuban
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To: FreedomCalls
Last year was the first time he had been in public school for several years. He is back to being home-schooled this year.

Hmmmm.....

26 posted on 08/30/2006 9:17:14 PM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
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To: maine-iac7

That's a good point you are making.


27 posted on 08/30/2006 9:17:43 PM PDT by Mrs.Nooseman (Proud supporter of our Troops and President GW!!!)
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To: FreedomCalls
“I’ve been involved as an environmental activist for years, and I’ve brought Zach to anti-nuclear protests,” Guiles said. ... Trained as a leftist from the crib

Red diaper baby alert!

28 posted on 08/30/2006 9:17:48 PM PDT by WOSG (Broken-glass time, Republicans! Save the Congress!)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Since this kid is now a "public figure" due to this I suggest some of his current fellow students wear t-shirts with his likenss and an appropriate message about his IQ.

You can bet his parents won't think someone with a t-shirt of their little s**thead is free speech.


29 posted on 08/30/2006 9:18:29 PM PDT by feedback doctor (HATE - The core value of liberalism)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Time to break out the Hitlary T-shirts and see how well this ruling works.


30 posted on 08/30/2006 9:18:38 PM PDT by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: Aussie Dasher

And how many US presidents in YOUR family, Zac?


31 posted on 08/30/2006 9:20:33 PM PDT by Graymatter (TV-free and clean for 3 years, 2 months.)
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To: WOSG

Have you checked out Myspace......????


32 posted on 08/30/2006 9:21:12 PM PDT by goodnesswins (I think the real problem is islamo-bombia! (Rummyfan))
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To: G Larry

who cares if he wears a anti-bush shirt?


33 posted on 08/30/2006 9:21:14 PM PDT by m3d1um
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To: Aussie Dasher
These idiot kids are working towards their own demise. Their future will be death and want.


34 posted on 08/30/2006 9:21:42 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Aussie Dasher
The back of the T-shirt showed lines of cocaine, a martini glass and smaller print that accused Bush of being a "Crook", "Cocaine Addict", AWOL", "Draft Dodger" and "Lying Drunk Driver".

Isn't this the CV for the Chap of Quiddick?

35 posted on 08/30/2006 9:26:50 PM PDT by Nomorjer Kinov (If the opposite of "pro" is "con" , what is the opposite of progress?)
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To: maine-iac7

I know, I know. You can imagine how this situation played itself out:

Mom: Now Jimmy, go put on your Coke and Bush shirt.

Kid: No Mom! The kids at school make fun of me for it!

Mom: Dammit Jimmy! Just because your friends' parents drive SUVs, vote Republican, and are anti-gay homophobe theocrats doesn't make them right. I need you to wear that shirt so the kids know that Bush lied and people died.

Kid: Mom, please....

Mom: Listen. If you wear the shirt I'll let you pick out your own organic wheat at the co-op. No more spelt for you, trooper! Since you're teaching your friends about Herr Bush the Cokehead, I think you're responsible enough to decide what flavor tofu you want.

Kid: I'm gonna get an ass-whoopin' for this.


36 posted on 08/30/2006 9:27:09 PM PDT by Rawlings (Tipton Time!)
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who cares if he wears a anti-bush shirt?

Nobody. The whole flap is over him wearing a shirt that promotes drug use by showing a pile of cocaine, a razor blade, and a martini glass. The fact that it is anti-Bush is being waived about by lefties to distract from the actual problem. Do you think a tee-shirt showing a pile of cocaine, a razor blade, and a martini glass is appropriate for the seventh grade?

37 posted on 08/30/2006 9:27:21 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Aussie Dasher

Fine with me so long as the same standard is used when looking at non-liberal t-shirts.


38 posted on 08/30/2006 9:28:35 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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a Bush image surrounded by cocaine, a razor blade, a straw and a martini.

That sounds inappropriate for school to me even without the President.

Sad.

And typical.

39 posted on 08/30/2006 9:30:44 PM PDT by Condor 63
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To: FreedomCalls

Looks like Son of Sam, David Berkowitz, has been
allowed a few congual visits in the big house.

40 posted on 08/30/2006 9:31:45 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (New York Times? Get a rope!)
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To: Aussie Dasher

AD, nothing surprises me anymore.


41 posted on 08/30/2006 9:32:05 PM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Aussie Dasher

My son wears a Club Gitmo shirt (Rush RULES) and a John Kerry Waffle House shirt to school....no problems so far....


42 posted on 08/30/2006 9:32:41 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (JOHN BOLTON FOR PRESIDENT)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Good, he gets to where that shirt then I`m sure that they`ll have no problem with my kid wearing "Bill Clinton is a rapist yet liberals elected him twice" or "Marion Barry smoked crack on video yet liberals elected him twice" Then have on the other side of the shirt: "Liberals; Wanting only the best for you"


43 posted on 08/30/2006 9:33:32 PM PDT by Screamname (A second plane has just hit the second tower, this is a coincidence. - Katie Couric, Sept 11th 2001)
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To: FreedomCalls

You should see what Detroit teachers wear - shoulder holsters.


44 posted on 08/30/2006 9:34:49 PM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: FreedomCalls
And he has a good relationship with both of his parents.

Apparently it's a wonder to the author.

45 posted on 08/30/2006 9:42:47 PM PDT by skr (We cannot play innocents abroad in a world that is not innocent.-- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Turbopilot
The court was right; the kid has a right to express even offensive and boorish opinions.

Really..... the "right" for a child to express himself miraculously appeared in the constitution about the same time abortion became a right in 1973?

Too bad I graduated just before that. Girls could only wear skirts...that touched the floor when kneeling. No culottes were allowed unless they had the flap in the front and back, looking like a skirt. Boys could not wear jeans. Nor could they wear t-shirts at all, as I recall.

Tennis shoes were for gym class. Jeans could not be worn at post game dances. Lockers were searched if and whenever the principle felt like it. You could not leave the school grounds during lunch without special written excuse from your parent.

If you were tardy a certain number of times, you got detention. If you were a smart mouth, you were sent to the principle's office and were usually given detention. Parents were notified of all of the above, which meant you were in more trouble at home.

We were taught history, geography, government, english, math, reading/literature, science and basic health/hygiene. When we graduated from high school we knew more than most college graduates of today.

We were kids. There were rules. The rules were enforced. We learned.
And all of this in a public school before 1973.

46 posted on 08/30/2006 9:49:43 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: FreedomCalls
Do you think a tee-shirt showing a pile of cocaine, a razor blade, and a martini glass is appropriate for the seventh grade?

No. But someone sitting in this judge's courtroom wearing a Clinton shirt with a picture of a stained dress, wet tipped cigar, and a picture of a condom with a red line through it might be appropriate.

Bet the judge doesn't feel that much towards free speech.

47 posted on 08/30/2006 9:52:22 PM PDT by uptoolate (The U.N. will be the tool of the Anti-Christ)
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To: Doctor Raoul
lol!!


48 posted on 08/30/2006 9:54:56 PM PDT by Screamname (A second plane has just hit the second tower, this is a coincidence. - Katie Couric, Sept 11th 2001)
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To: G Larry
Time to break out the Hitlary T-shirts

Yes, a nice red tone with this on the front and back.

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49 posted on 08/30/2006 9:55:24 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: Just A Nobody
And look how bad we turned out, huh?

I'm sick to death of this political crap.

50 posted on 08/30/2006 9:57:21 PM PDT by Howlin
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