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Posted on 08/30/2006 9:00:34 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher
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Disrupting the educational environment trumps free speech in schools. I can't believe this ruling can(nor will) stand.
The issue is that the kid was being punished for the content on his t-shirt. If the school had a dress code that forbade all t-shirts, which public schools can and some do have, there would be no issue. But the argument is that the kid wouldn't have gotten in trouble if the shirt had had pictures of sunshine and lollipops; he got in trouble for expressing an offensive message, and government agents (public school employees) are bound by the Constitution not to selectively discriminate for or against any given message, even offensive ones. See the difference between your list of rules (which penalize behavior) and this case (which was an attempt to penalize content)?
All of which has nothing to do with the most important issue in this story, that being that this poor kid was raised by moonbats who dumped enough nonsense down this kid's throat that by age 12 he was permitted (if not forced) to wear clothing with stupid and offensive messages in public because those messages represented the parents' geriatric-hippie worldview.
Ditto! What is scary is that some feel that a 12 y/o child has all these rights.
I caught a horrible cold and have been on the sofa watching TV most of last night and today.
I happened upon Spike Lee's "When the Leeves Broke."
I tell you this, from the lies that they are telling, we are lost as a country.
On part has Harry Belafonte talking about how he and a bunch of black leaders (Danny Glover) went to see old Hugo Chavez to see what HE can/would do for the blacks in America, you know, the people "Bush won't do anything for."
Right that moment, I felt like we are in a losing battle.
Red herring. The issue is the depiction of illegal drugs and drug paraphenalia which schools have a right to ban. Could he have worn a t-shirt with an image of Monica getting down on Clinton? I say no, because the content being forbidden is not the political content, but the sexual content. In this case it is the drugs.
As I understand it the school has a policy that forbids the depiction of illegal drugs and drug paraphernalia.
The court was quite wrong. Schools are not free speech zones. The speech is not allowed to be disruptive to the learning environment. The F-word or a racial slur on a shirt would be disruptive to the learning environment. So would this shirt.
BS Kids do not have 1st amendment rights at schools
Clearly, that is not the case. If it were, there would have been no lawsuit and no thread.
However, the have nothing to do with the legal issue in this case
The point was.....30 years ago, there would have been NO legal issue and NO case.
(and I have no idea what any of it has to do with abortion).
Nothing to do with abortion other than when our judicial tyrants granted abortion "rights" the country as a whole began to go downhill rapidly. Children that were granted the privilege of birth suddenly were given "rights" that up to then adults didn't have. The anti-war, free-love hippies of the late 60's/early 70's were behind the degeneration of our society.
Many of them are the leaders behind the anti-war, anarchist movement of today.
If you keep watching that trash you will have to be hospitalized for depression.
I feel like we are in a losing battle almost daily just reading FR. No one wants to fight the lies and will allow history to be written as pure fiction.
The worst part of FR to me now is the ones who are supposed to be on our side who are more than willing to hand this country over to the liberals to "teach the GOP a lesson."
Great job! In fact, hearing about y'all on the news may have been what led me to FR. ;*)
Yes, that is worrisome. I doubt that if/when it comes down to it, they will do it. However, the GOP should start listening to the folks and get the message before it comes to that.
Funny how we find our way here, huh?
That was a great night.
And I (GASP!) even had a paddling or 10!!! And I happened to turn out just fine-at 48 never have I even seen the inside of a jail cell. And I don't ever plan to.
It sure sounds like it! Thank you all again from one grateful sKerry hater. ;*)
Meanwhile on the other side of the country, the 9th circuit rules against a tee shirt against Homosexuality.
When the left says "Free Speech", they don't mean for us....
The left is known the world over for its double standards.
I bet having a shirt that says "I love Jesus" on it would be out of line, though.
Wacko parents ..Gee , what a surprise.
I'd love to contact a parent from that school and talk them into letting his kid wear a t shirt that mocked Klinton..Damn , that would be perfect ..What could they say ?
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I would have tossed the TV through the window. I couldn't take watching that crap for 5 min .
Unfortunately for FReeper parents, our kids become idiots even though they should know better. My 14 year old defends Islam. :::sigh:::
Have him do a book report on the Koran
The other 98% who think it "cool" would in turn prolly try to whoop their hineys. Herd of independents don'tcha know.
Okay, where is a Bill Clinton rape shirt?
Here's a scene from a future Oval Office for him then as the future President an a few members of his cabinet take a break and watch an intern make her "presentation".
Or even a "I did not have sex with that girl" shirt?
I should clarify. He thinks the terrorists are just a few bad apples (despite the pages long list I printed for him of Muslim attacks throughout the world).
Islam is a perfectly acceptable religion. There are six types of jihad and "only one" says anything about killing infidels (geez, mom!).
Profiling is evil, and hundreds of Muslims were killed in the US after 9-11 (he didn't take me up on the challenge to find more than 5 incidents in a population of what, 300 million people?).
He doesn't throw McVey at me, only because he don't remember Oklahoma City well enough. I get to hear about the Crusades.
He also claims to be a Buddhist. He is, at heart, a sensible and reasonable kid. I think he's mostly just trying to irritate me and separate from mom. I give him information but I don't make a huge big deal out of it. I don't want to push him further into it.
You're assuming this twit has a mom.
I'm betting two daddies.
I suggest Bush supporters (or even those who want to piss the Bush-haters off) wear shirts that support Bush.
I have 2 I wear often. One simply has a red 'W' in the upper left corner, the other is a green T with the messsage 'Go George' (as opposed to Go Green).
I get lots of comments of support, and a few quizzical comments on 'why would I wear that shirt?'.
I think the weird part about is those who voice comments of support do so under their breath, so to speak, and those who do not like the shirt are pretty vocal and seem to be offended by my support of the President.
I get the feeling that support for Bush is a 'dirty little secret' for many. It's probably more the silent majority's good manners than anything, but their muted responses usually catche me off guard.
I expect the loud expressions of disgust from the angry left.... but why so many timid, secretive whispers of support?
Nice photo line up.
My daughter-in-law comes here from Canada to buy school uniforms for her kids.
Yes, your kids can start with that shirt I've seen advertised that has a picture of Hillary with a circle-slash over her and the slogan "Re-defeat Communism 2008."
That's the one! :-)
The kid. The twirp.
twirp with a smirk
It's not just on FR. Rush had a substitute host recently who featured a guest (sorry, I didn't catch the name) who was expounding this very plan.
It sickened me to hear it and certainly was not up to Rush Limbaugh show standards, even for a substitute host. IMO.
We'll see who cares when kids start wearing shirts with the picture from post #49.
Doc, you're usually funny, but you're scraping the bottom of the barrel with that one.
Yep, nothing warms the cockles like deliberately associating someone we don't like with a murderer. What could be better? /s
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