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Trump Dumps His Firing-Squad Aide Carolyn
The New York Post ^ | August 31, 2006 | Richard Johnson

Posted on 08/31/2006 6:36:01 AM PDT by khnyny

August 31, 2006 -- CAROLYN KEPCHER, Donald Trump's co-star on "The Apprentice," has heard him say "You're fired!" for the last time - because this time he said it to her, sources told The Post. The icy, 36-year-old blonde - who was running the Trump National Golf Club in Briarcliff in Westchester and helping supervise the Trump National in Bedminster, N.J. - was let go earlier this week.

"She became a prima donna," said one insider. "Being on 'The Apprentice' went to her head. She was no longer focused on business. She was giving speeches for $25,000 and doing endorsements."

Kepcher - who is married and has a son, Connor, 6, and a daughter Cassidy, 4 - had agents at ICM handling book and TV offers, and Westport Entertainment weighing speaking engagements and endorsements. She came out two years ago with a book, "Carolyn 101: Business Lessons from 'The Apprentice's' Straight Shooter."

Insiders say that when Trump tried to reach her recently, she was off on a trip to make a speech. Another time, while giving a tour of the pro shop at the Briarcliff club, she didn't seem to know the prices on any of the merchandise.

Trump has been in Los Angeles for five weeks filming the next season of "The Apprentice." His daughter, Ivanka, has replaced Carolyn as one of Trump's two on-air sidekicks, while son Don Jr. is the successor to gruff real-estate lawyer George Ross, 78.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons; US: New York
KEYWORDS: apprentice; bosseswithegos; carolynkepcher; greed; icemaiden; kepcher; kissitgoodbye; momwithkids; nepostism; ratings; somuchforloyalty; stupid; superego; trump; yourefired
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Well, I was never a big Carolyn fan, but this is still surprising. Trump always prides himself on "loyalty", but to sack a ten-year employee whom he's publicly complimented many times, seems a little harsh. Obviously nepotism comes into play, keep that money from speaking engagements, speeches, etc. in the family, lol. I wonder if the fact that Carolyn is a mom had anything to do with it, maybe she wasn't available for Trump's every beck and call.

From the article: "Kepcher was replaced at Briarcliff by Dan Scavino, her No. 2 at the course, which boasts a 102-foot-tall waterfall at the par-3 13th hole."

I guess it's good to watch your back, maybe Scavino saw an opportunity.

1 posted on 08/31/2006 6:36:02 AM PDT by khnyny
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To: khnyny

Replacing her with Ivanka shows what it really takes to get ahead in the Trump organization.


2 posted on 08/31/2006 6:39:43 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: khnyny

Obviously nepotism comes into play, keep that money from speaking engagements, speeches, etc. in the family,


Yep. Donald played his trump card.


3 posted on 08/31/2006 6:40:06 AM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: khnyny
I'm disappointed. I really admired Carolyn. She seemed too level headed for that kind of behavior. I guess Look-At-Me syndrome can happen to anyone.

I think this will probably be my last season. She and George really made the show.

4 posted on 08/31/2006 6:40:13 AM PDT by meowmeow (In Loving Memory of Our Dear Viking Kitty (1987-2006))
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To: khnyny

Carolyn sounds like an egomaniac. But then, she had a good teacher.


5 posted on 08/31/2006 6:40:27 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: meowmeow
I guess Look-At-Me syndrome can happen to anyone.

Yes. Thank goodness "The Donald" doesn't engage in that sort of unseemly behavior.

6 posted on 08/31/2006 6:42:15 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: meowmeow
I think this will probably be my last season. She and George really made the show.

I'm done, too.

They were business professionals. At least they criticized from a position of authority. I'm not in the least bit interested in the Trump Family Hour.

7 posted on 08/31/2006 6:42:25 AM PDT by highball (Proud to announce the birth of little Highball, Junior - Feb. 7, 2006!)
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To: khnyny

Not too suprising. Only so much ego is allowed on a TV show, and Trump uses up all of it.


8 posted on 08/31/2006 6:44:31 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: RexBeach
[Carolyn sounds like an egomaniac. But then, she had a good teacher.]

Trump once said, "show me a person without an ego, and I'll show you a loser", or words to that effect. Trump has some common sense, but he is not a brilliant businessman. Atlantic City is a prime example - what was he thinking?? If Trump was his own employee, he would have been fired a long time ago.
9 posted on 08/31/2006 6:44:45 AM PDT by khnyny (Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.- Winston Churchill)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

He's a master of it. That's why Carolyn and George stood out - they seemed so much more professional. Look-at-Me people don't like to share the limelight with other Look-at-Me people.


10 posted on 08/31/2006 6:46:15 AM PDT by meowmeow (In Loving Memory of Our Dear Viking Kitty (1987-2006))
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To: khnyny
Atlantic City is a prime example - what was he thinking??

He was thinking "OPM". Other Peoples Money. He walked away with nary a scratch.

11 posted on 08/31/2006 6:46:32 AM PDT by capydick (Not to know is bad; not to wish to know is worse.)
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To: highball
His show has run it's course with me also. I didn't watch last season and have no plans to watch the up coming show either. I'm more of a My Name is Earl fan. It's far more entertaining with far less ego.
12 posted on 08/31/2006 6:47:36 AM PDT by submarinerswife
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To: highball

[They were business professionals. At least they criticized from a position of authority. I'm not in the least bit interested in the Trump Family Hour.]

Right. I agree. Not to blast the children, but they've never really been in the real corporate world and they certainly have not had to work their way up (understatement).


13 posted on 08/31/2006 6:48:29 AM PDT by khnyny (Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.- Winston Churchill)
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To: capydick

She didn't seem to know the prices in the pro shop? Why should she? That's why they put tags and labels on merchandise. Heck, the pro in our shop doesn't know the prices without looking.


14 posted on 08/31/2006 6:49:29 AM PDT by Russ
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To: Always Right

[Not too suprising. Only so much ego is allowed on a TV show, and Trump uses up all of it.]

I wonder if he sucks all the oxygen out of a room when he enters it too.


15 posted on 08/31/2006 6:51:46 AM PDT by khnyny (Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.- Winston Churchill)
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To: khnyny

16 posted on 08/31/2006 6:52:52 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Russ

[She didn't seem to know the prices in the pro shop? Why should she? That's why they put tags and labels on merchandise. Heck, the pro in our shop doesn't know the prices without looking.]

That is pretty lame, isn't it? I would worry about someone in her high position knowing that kind of minutia, that's not her job.


17 posted on 08/31/2006 6:54:48 AM PDT by khnyny (Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.- Winston Churchill)
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To: khnyny

WOW

That's all I got to say about that!


18 posted on 08/31/2006 6:57:31 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (If you don't love Jesus, you can go to hell.)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

Why should Trump be any different from his Dad?


Had his dad not bailed him out during his crash (a fact he conviently leaves out whenever he tells the story of his fall and re-emergence) by walking into one of Trump's casinos buying several million dollars in chips and just walking out of the Casino with them (IE A below the board cash infusion that Trump Senior did end up paying a fine for) Trump would just have been another flash in the pan flame out.

Not to mention he always leaves out Daddy's original backing that got him started as well.

I definately personally think Caroline had been putting her celebrity above her daily job, at least it appeared to me to be... So I'm not overly suprised that she was let go.

She'll be fine, hardly is she going to be hurting due to this action.


19 posted on 08/31/2006 7:01:55 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: khnyny

Ivanka has got what it takes.


20 posted on 08/31/2006 7:04:21 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: HamiltonJay

Thanks for the interesting background info. I knew Trump got his start because of his dad, but was not aware of the casino anecdote, lol. If Trump wanted Carolyn off the show, fine. If he wanted her to stop being a "prima dona", fine. Talk to her about it, but to fire this woman completely after ten years just makes Trump look bad. From a PR standpoint, it may have been better to let Carolyn find another position before making this public. It almost makes me think there is more to this story, perhaps it is personal.


21 posted on 08/31/2006 7:08:42 AM PDT by khnyny (Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.- Winston Churchill)
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To: bonfire
Ivanka has got what it takes.

I agree with you, to an extent. While she isn't quite as business-savy as Carolyn appears to be, she certainly isn't a ditz either. She seems to know her stuff, for the most part.

Plus, she is very pleasant on the eyes!

22 posted on 08/31/2006 7:09:00 AM PDT by CT-Freeper (Said the perpetually dejected Mets fan.)
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To: bonfire
[Ivanka has got what it takes.]

She should, she's been groomed from birth and she better, if she doesn't want to be eaten alive. Ivanka is a pretty, smart girl, but there are lots of pretty, smart girls in this world, the only problem is, their last name isn't Trump.
23 posted on 08/31/2006 7:12:54 AM PDT by khnyny (Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.- Winston Churchill)
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To: khnyny

I can't believe that he is hiring his two kids. I mean now it is three people in the same family. Oh well the show jumped the shark two years ago anyway. I can't believe that Carolyn is only 36. She looks so much older. I guess she had a rough life (possibly childhood).


24 posted on 08/31/2006 7:13:23 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: khnyny
Trump's turned the show into an info-mercial. Now it looks like he wants a family cash cow:

daughter, Ivanka, has replaced Carolyn as one of Trump's two on-air sidekicks, while son Don Jr. is the successor

25 posted on 08/31/2006 7:14:51 AM PDT by D-fendr
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To: D-fendr

[Trump's turned the show into an info-mercial. Now it looks like he wants a family cash cow:]

When Trump showcased "Trump Bottled Water" on his show, that really made me laugh. Also, the endless payola for featuring products on the show is a little much. This is just one more nail in his coffin of greed.


26 posted on 08/31/2006 7:18:11 AM PDT by khnyny (Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.- Winston Churchill)
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To: khnyny

Two good examples. He seems determined to find out how blatantly he can sell out the show until it dies.

He's and example of a man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.


27 posted on 08/31/2006 7:20:45 AM PDT by D-fendr
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To: khnyny

If you ever get a chance watch this:

http://www.hbo.com/docs/programs/born_rich/

Very eye opening. The ONLY kid on the film that had it "together" was Ivanka.


28 posted on 08/31/2006 7:23:36 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: khnyny

Only room for one prima donna in the organization.


29 posted on 08/31/2006 7:25:23 AM PDT by UB355 (Slower Traffic Keep Right)
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To: khnyny
This is just one more nail in his coffin of greed.

If you have a product that sells it's called capitalism...not greed.

30 posted on 08/31/2006 7:26:52 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (If you don't love Jesus, you can go to hell.)
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To: submarinerswife

My list of priorities as it pertains to TV shows:

1. 24
2. Rescue Me
3. Prison Break
4. My Name is Earl
5. Futurama

I stopped watching "The Apprentice" after the first season. Vanished seems to be an okay so too thus far, nothing spectacular though.


31 posted on 08/31/2006 7:39:34 AM PDT by kx9088
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To: khnyny

Glad my job is secure here at Enron.


32 posted on 08/31/2006 7:44:19 AM PDT by pke
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To: khnyny

Well,

For all we know, he may have given her warnings in the past. Remember, this is a press report, who knows what really happened.

From a PR standpoint, Trump is a master of PR... if there is one thing to admire him for (while I think he's an OK businessman) its his ability to self promote... he is definately a modern guy with the PT Barnum flair.

After everything that Trumps been through, from the Ivana divorce, etc etc etc I don't think an employees termination is going to have much negative impact on Trump or his companies.

What I think Trump has been good at is attracting good people around him... which is indeed the sign of a good leader. I know if I had the opportunity I'd probably be willing to do a stint at Trump, not so much to be around "the donald" as I've been in many situations where I've been around the "poster boy" for a particular field, and often have been less than impressed with the guy who gets the media focus... but have found that the people around them are often very very good and I have learned a lot from.

And I'm not trying to take away what Trump has accomplished, even with the backing he had, most would not have been able to turn that into what he has. I'm just saying if I was going to pick a business leader to be my mentor, I don't think I would pick Trump.


33 posted on 08/31/2006 7:45:21 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: khnyny
so she was fired for acting exactly the way trump does.

only room for one hen in that house. i like them both, and i know she will land on her feet making tons of dough.

34 posted on 08/31/2006 7:47:42 AM PDT by thefactor
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To: submarinerswife

Apparently the advice she peddles didn't do her a bit of good:

"But if anyone knows what to do to impress Donald Trump, it's Carolyn, his longtime employee and trusted adviser. In Carolyn 101, she reveals the secrets of her own success and provides listeners with guidance for their professional lives. She tells listeners how to:
• Deal with a difficult boss"

But Trump is an ego maniac. The only person I know that can lose millions and millions of other peoples' dollars and still be considered a success by some parts of this nation. He builds one ice rink in New York and people think he is some contracting god. Let us count all the projects he has blown, marriages that have failed, and basically utter waste of nice suits. He needs to be blasted off to space to a super nova and disappear.


35 posted on 08/31/2006 9:32:02 AM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?")
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To: kx9088

That's a good list. You should add House to it this season.


36 posted on 08/31/2006 9:33:51 AM PDT by GreenAccord (I just spell-checked MOONBAT. Shouldn't that be in the FR lexicon as a valid word?)
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To: khnyny

Probably this scenario:

She is getting her own press, Trump doens't like it.
She is making money outside of his operations, he doesn't like it.

Andrew Carnegie taught his employees how to become millionaires and many did so.

Much of Donald Trump's successes are due to his father, who handed him a spectacular fortune. He is not the business leader I would pic as a model, as I think he is entirely too arrogant.

The comment about hiring good people is a very good one, although Trump has not done as well as others in this regard. I have worked for a number of wealthy people who have no talent for business other than hiring good employees. It appears that this type of talent is the only one you need.


37 posted on 08/31/2006 9:41:47 AM PDT by TexanToTheCore (This space for hire...)
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To: GreenAccord

I like House, I watch it most of the time but towards the end of last season there was something running parallel to it that drew my attention away, can't remember what it was though.


38 posted on 08/31/2006 9:58:20 AM PDT by kx9088
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To: RexBeach

My guess is that people took Carolyn more seriously than Donald.

He has a huge ego, and he doesn't want anyone else to get the limelight.


39 posted on 08/31/2006 10:25:24 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: luckystarmom
Donald has never been "loyal" to a woman in his life..why should Carolyn have thought she was any different?

So maybe he will fire "George" so he can replace him with his Dorky son..?

sw

40 posted on 08/31/2006 10:41:05 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: kx9088
My list of priorities as it pertains to TV shows:
1. 24
2. Rescue Me
3. Prison Break
4. My Name is Earl
5. Futurama

I stopped watching "The Apprentice" after the first season. Vanished seems to be an okay so too thus far, nothing spectacular though.


Do you mean Lost?
If so, I had to force myself to watch it last season.
Supernatural is a great show, too, Thursdays at 9pm on the WB.

I can always trust that the History Channel or A&E has something on that has more substance than watching jackarses back stabbing each other in the back.
41 posted on 08/31/2006 10:42:00 AM PDT by submarinerswife
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To: khnyny

He should dump that heinous comb-over. Yikes!


42 posted on 08/31/2006 10:44:03 AM PDT by drew
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To: submarinerswife

Carolyn impressed me as a very competent executive, as did George Ross. I even bought her book and gave it to my daughter who is in business.
Trump is a joke from his goofy hair down to his overpriced shoes.
But he's famous because he's famous, sort of like most bogus "celebs" around today.


43 posted on 08/31/2006 10:47:32 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: khnyny
"She was giving speeches for $25,000 and doing endorsements."

In other words, she was being entreprenurial like Trump. Oh, the shame! < /sarc>

In my mind, she was part of what made the show work and you could tell that most when Trump had his *daughter* sit in her chair. Carolyn's "disapproving mom" glares were great comedy.

I don't doubt she'll land on her feet.

44 posted on 08/31/2006 10:49:49 AM PDT by Tall_Texan (I wish a political party would come along that thinks like I do.)
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To: khnyny

Rich's Undeniable Truth of the Day: It's a bad idea to get crosswise with your boss...especially when his name is on the building.


45 posted on 08/31/2006 10:53:22 AM PDT by RichInOC (Ivanka?...w00t!)
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To: submarinerswife

Yes, that's it. My wife would call me from work and ask if I was watching Lost. She told me that I had to give her a play-by-play when she got home. Now we have DVR ;)


46 posted on 08/31/2006 10:53:48 AM PDT by kx9088
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To: D-fendr

I stopped watching after season three. The first season was brilliant..because it was SIMPLE..sending Harvard Grads out to sell Lemonade is what we want to see. Once he hooked them up with big advertising agencies and marketing companies...hell, I could have done it....and better. Then it became one big money making scheme. When the pizzas they made started being marketed and all that crap, I realized that we were all pawns in the Donald's business machine. I want no part of it.


47 posted on 08/31/2006 10:58:11 AM PDT by Hildy (Faith is not believing that God can. It is knowing that God will.)
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To: kx9088

Add THE SHIELD to your list.


48 posted on 08/31/2006 10:58:33 AM PDT by Hildy (Faith is not believing that God can. It is knowing that God will.)
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To: khnyny
Trump has been in Los Angeles for five weeks filming the next season of "The Apprentice."

I smell a surprise episode ending....

"You and you...you're FIRED!"

"Oh, and you, Carolyn, you're fired too! Go! Out!"

49 posted on 08/31/2006 11:01:57 AM PDT by Tall_Texan (I wish a political party would come along that thinks like I do.)
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To: khnyny

It will be interesting to hear her side of the story.

I stopped watching when the show was on opposite '24'. (Haven't missed it at all!)


50 posted on 08/31/2006 2:31:00 PM PDT by CarolinaGOP ("Within the covers of the Bible are the answers for all the problems men face." - Ronald Reagan)
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