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Arizona: NRCC Backs GOP centrist in open CD-8 primary
Politics 1 ^ | Aug. 31, 2006 | Ron Gunzburger

Posted on 08/31/2006 11:17:40 AM PDT by PhilCollins

THURSDAY NEWS UPDATE.

ARIZONA: NRCC BACKS GOP CENTRIST IN OPEN CD-8 PRIMARY. Retiring eleven-term Congressman Jim Kolbe (R) is strongly supporting State Representative Steve Huffman as his successor -- and now Kolbe has some powerful allies in his vocal efforts to derail the candidacy of former State Representative Randy Graf. The National Republican Congressional Committee spent $122,292 to purchase TV time for a spot in support of Huffman scheduled to start airing later this week, according to the Wall Street Journal. The Journal also reported the individual leadership PACs of House Speaker Dennis Hastert, House Majority Leader John Boehner and House Majority Whip Roy Blunt each gave $5,000 to Huffman within the last week. The NRCC and House Republican leaders purportedly share Kolbe's concern that Graf is far too conservative to win this swing district in November. Graf's campaign responded by claiming these contributions to Huffman will "tick off a whole lot of people." Huffman, like Kolbe, is a GOP centrist. Graf -- a hardcore conservative who has embraced the anti-immigration views of Congressman Tom Tancredo (R-CO) -- lost to Kolbe by a 14-point margin in the 2004 GOP primary. Graf is endorsed by Tancredo, Congressman Trent Franks (R-AZ), gubernatorial candidate Don Goldwater, National Right to Life, and the Fraternal Order of Police. Huffman is backed by Kolbe, the NRCC, BIPAC, and Tucson Mayor Bob Walkup. Former State GOP Chair Mike Hellon and two others are also running in the Republican primary. Former State Senator Gabrielle Giffords is the frontrunner for the Democratic nomination. Giffords is endorsed by Emily's List, the AFL-CIO, the National Education Association, the Arizona Police Association, the League of Conservation Voters, and the Sierra Club.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
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Many people, on Free Republic, said that they don't donate to the NRCC because the money might be given to RINO's. Here's an example of that. One republican candidate is conservative, and the NRCC donated to another candidate.
1 posted on 08/31/2006 11:17:42 AM PDT by PhilCollins
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To: PhilCollins

All the GOP support and big name endorsements like Bush and McCain didn't help Joe Schwarz a bit here in Michigan.


2 posted on 08/31/2006 11:26:02 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: PhilCollins; fieldmarshaldj; JohnnyZ; Clintonfatigued; Kuksool; Spiff

The NRCCC is almost as bad as the NRSC; I will never donate to either one again. BTW, the NRCCC is stepping in with money that could be better spent supporting Republicans who are already the party's nominee (such as Meier in NY-24, Gerlach, Fitzpatrick, Weldon and Irey in PA, etc.) in order to prop up a RINO who has very little chance of defeating the conservative, battle-tested Graf in the primary. Here's the latest poll for the AZ-08, courtesy of Politics1.com:

ARIZONA - CD-8 - GOP PRIMARY: Former State Representative Randy Graf - 36%, State Representative Steve Huffman - 13%, former State GOP Chair Mike Hellon - 10%, Others - 2%. (San Pedro Valley News-Sun/Wick).


3 posted on 08/31/2006 11:28:50 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: PhilCollins
Many people, on Free Republic, said that they don't donate to the NRCC because the money might be given to RINO's.

Just remember to give to individual conservatives like Randy Graf!

4 posted on 08/31/2006 11:29:17 AM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002)
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To: PhilCollins

Mainstream GOP organization, if given the choice, is clearly more comfortable with Big Government, establishment, squishy candidates than they are with anti-Big Government conservatives.


5 posted on 08/31/2006 11:31:54 AM PDT by reelfoot
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To: AuH2ORepublican; JohnnyZ

You are right!

Give to the individual politician of your choice.


6 posted on 08/31/2006 11:33:14 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW.)
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To: cripplecreek

Graff is right... this is going to tickoff alot of folks.


7 posted on 08/31/2006 11:34:33 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW.)
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To: PhilCollins
Huffman has been rated by just about every conservative organizations with the lowest ratings of any Republican in the State House of Representatives. He votes with the Democrats most of the time and even turned coat against the Republicans as one of 12 Republicans who went with the Democrats to pass the liberal governor's budget instead of the Republican majority budget. He's consistantly voted pro-abortion and is rated as one of the "biggest spenders" in the House. He's opposed nearly every immigration reform/border security measure and has always been at odds with the conservatives in the party.

Yet, when he was hand picked by RINO Rep. Jim Kolbe to run for his seat to replace him he tried to reinvent himself as a border hawk conservative. It is riduculous to see someone with a liberal record like Huffman's to try to convince the voter that he's a conservative. His ads even claim that he is a conservative and he, especially if you look at his actual record and views, is NOT.

Graf has been running a campaign based mostly upon grassroots support and volunteers. He's pulled in a few more dollars than when he ran against Kolbe 2 years ago, but Huffman has been plugged in to Kolbe's massive fundraising apparatus and his raking in the big bucks and has made massive media buys.

Graf is the true Republican in this race, a conservative, was elected by his peers in the State House of Representatives to serve as House Majority Whip, and he is very strong on the border issue which is the most important isse (according to the latest opinion poll) by a large margin to 60% of Republicans in the district.

Huffman has based him campaigns on lies about his record and outright lies told in his attack ads againt Randy Graf. The other contender, Mike Hellon, is also somewhat liberal but he too has complained about Huffman's lies and tactics and has even loudly proclaimed that Huffman lacks good character while all of his opponents are playing fair.

Huffman met with scandal as Hellon's home was stalked and photographed by Huffman's campaign treasurer and the photos posted on a website with a bunch of questionable allegations about Hellon's wife (a State Senator) misusing campaign funds. Hellon has obtained a restraining order against Huffman's treasurer and has filed a lawsuit. The treasurer resigned amid the scandal but the stain has not left Huffman's campaign. In fact, last night at a candidate forum there was a character dressed in a long trench coat and dark glasses "stalking" and greeting everyone while wearing a Huffman for Congress sticker.

Despite the fact that this is an open seat (there is no Republican incumbent) and despite the fact that Huffman has pulled in massive amounts of cash, the NRCC took the unprecedented and inappropriate move to interfere with this race and do a massive media buy in support of Huffman. This is wrong! They have never interfered with a open seat primary race and they should not start to now. That they've lent their support to the most liberal of the candidates who consistantly votes with the Democrats more than with the Republicans adds insult.

The NRCC should be condemned for this unprecedented interference in a local, open seat race and pull their advertisements immediately. Further, they should attempt to compensate the affected candidates for any damage they have caused. And they need to NEVER do this again!

I suggest that we get everyone to call the NRCC and deluge them with demands that they pull the ads immediately and attempt to compensate the other candidates for the damage the NRCC did to them through this unprecedented and inappropriate interference in a local, open seat, congressional race.

The NRCC can be contacted at:
Main: (202)479-7000
Communications: (202)479-7070
Politics Dept: (202)479-7050

You can also email website@nrcc.org

Graf was polling ahead of Huffman by a significant margin in the latest opinion polls. Huffman enjoys only 1/3rd of the support that Graf has. And in Cochise County, Huffman only gets 6% of the voters supporting him. Huffman planned to spend $500,000 in the last two weeks of the campaign (right now) in ads to spread more lies and distortions in attack ads against Graf. Graf's conservative Republican record is admirable and worthy of support. Graf's website is at votegraf.com. He's been endorsed by the National Right to Life, Rep. Tom Tancredo, Rep. Trent Franks, and other conservative organizations and representatives who support him to be MY next Congressman.

8 posted on 08/31/2006 11:41:26 AM PDT by Spiff (Death before Dhimmitude)
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To: AZBear; sasafras; DLfromthedesert; SandRat; HiJinx; AZHSer
Ping.

Why don't you all chime in here about this and ping the other FReepers in this area to this thread? Thanks.

9 posted on 08/31/2006 11:44:15 AM PDT by Spiff (Death before Dhimmitude)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

The article says this is a swing district. What are this districts voting patterns?


10 posted on 08/31/2006 11:44:15 AM PDT by wmfights (Psalm : 27)
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To: Spiff

Thanks for the update, Spiff.


11 posted on 08/31/2006 11:45:43 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: wmfights
The article says this is a swing district. What are this districts voting patterns?

This district has a Republican majority and consistantly voted for Republicans for President.

12 posted on 08/31/2006 11:45:47 AM PDT by Spiff (Death before Dhimmitude)
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To: Spiff; wmfights

"The article says this is a swing district. What are this districts voting patterns?"



The district leans Republican, having given President Bush 53% in 2004. Its rural precincts are far more conservative than its Tucson precincts, but heavily democrat West Tucson is in the Hispanic-majority AZ-07 and thus the Tucson precincts in the AZ-08 are fairly evenly split between Republicans and Democrats. There is no reason why a conservative Republican with strong positions against illegal immigration such as Graf should not defeat a liberal Democrat such as Giffords in the AZ-08.


13 posted on 08/31/2006 11:50:08 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Who's running the NRCC these days?? Tom Reynolds of NY, I guess. Can't expect much out of him.


14 posted on 08/31/2006 11:50:15 AM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002)
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To: wmfights

In 2004, Rep. Kolbe got 60% of the vote.


15 posted on 08/31/2006 11:52:27 AM PDT by PhilCollins
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To: JohnnyZ

"Who's running the NRCC these days?? Tom Reynolds of NY, I guess. Can't expect much out of him."



It seems to me that they could name the most conservative guy in the House to lead the NRCCC, and within a year he'd be supporting RINO candidates in conservative districts under the canard that "he can wiiiiiiin." That's why I give to individual candidates, not these national party groups.


16 posted on 08/31/2006 11:53:45 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

If only Graf were capable of raising money. :-(

I think this seat is a goner, but at least we're rid of RINO Kolbe.


17 posted on 08/31/2006 1:15:06 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: PhilCollins

I think Graf has it, Huffman and Hellion are splitting the RINO/moderate vote and Graf really only has to worry about Hellion dropping out.


18 posted on 08/31/2006 3:13:07 PM PDT by youthgonewild
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To: The Old Hoosier
I think this seat is a goner, but at least we're rid of RINO Kolbe.

The seat is not a goner. The Republican candidate will likely win unless he's lying sack of crap like Huffman. I'd take Hellon WAY before I would accept Huffman.

Graf has raised more than 3 times what he raised 2 years ago. Yes, in comparison to Huffman and the massive fundraising machine that Kolbe and the good-old-boys plugged him in to, that's not much. But it came mostly from grassroots Republicans sending in $10's and $20's individually. Graf is a principled conservative candidate who appeals to the grassroots and that's why he deserves support and to win the election.

19 posted on 08/31/2006 3:37:33 PM PDT by Spiff (Death before Dhimmitude)
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To: youthgonewild
I think Graf has it, Huffman and Hellion are splitting the RINO/moderate vote and Graf really only has to worry about Hellion dropping out.

It is too late for Hellon to drop out because he's already on the ballot and early ballots are already being submitted. Plus, through some miracle, Huffman and Hellon got into the feud they're in and Hellon isn't going to back down now. My hope is that he goes for Huffman's jugular in the last days of the campaign and won't let go until Huffman goes down hard on election day. Hellon is pretty mild-mannered though and may not do it.

He reminds me alot of the warden in the movie Shawshank Redemption. The photo comparison here doesn't do it justice. You'd have to meet him.


20 posted on 08/31/2006 3:45:48 PM PDT by Spiff (Death before Dhimmitude)
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To: Spiff

Look, I am a Graf-type guy and I hope he wins the primary.

But I also think he'll lose the general.


21 posted on 08/31/2006 4:12:37 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: The Old Hoosier
But I also think he'll lose the general.

Well, since I live here and am very involved with this District's politics and have been for years...I think you're wrong.

22 posted on 08/31/2006 4:17:41 PM PDT by Spiff (Death before Dhimmitude)
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To: PhilCollins

It really shouldn't be a surprise by now. The Rove's Gallery in Washington *always* takes the side of the RINO. Always.

From the time they turned their backs on Bret Schundler in New Jersey for upsetting their annointed RINO, they've always shown their support for the "electable" RINO instead of the conservative.

Arlen Specter was the final straw. Any thought I had of giving to any nattional GOP organization went out the window with that little sabotage.


23 posted on 08/31/2006 4:17:58 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (I wish a political party would come along that thinks like I do.)
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To: PhilCollins

I'll say it again: NRCC, RNC, etc., have no legitimate business whatsoever in a primary.


24 posted on 08/31/2006 4:19:36 PM PDT by B Knotts (Newt '08!)
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To: Spiff

Well, I"m glad people aren't giving up.


25 posted on 08/31/2006 4:23:30 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: PhilCollins; Gelato; Taxman; Waywardson; Ladycalif

The sellout continues.


26 posted on 08/31/2006 4:26:50 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Spiff; AZBear; sasafras; DLfromthedesert; HiJinx; AZHSer

Read this this AM in the Tucson Red Star as they gleefully reported it as a way to keep a Kolbe Clone in office if it does go GOP. ARRRRRGGGGG!!!!!!!!


27 posted on 08/31/2006 5:19:54 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: PhilCollins

Huffman, like Kolbe, is a GOP centrist.



A centrist? I do not know Huffman, as I have not lived in Tucson or even AZ for many years, but I did know Jim Kolbe and he has never been a centrist. He has always been left of center. If Huffman is anything like Kolbe I would hope the citizens of Tucson and Green Valley pull together and elect Graff.


28 posted on 08/31/2006 5:41:03 PM PDT by John D
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To: Spiff
I can not believe DLfromthedesert has not contributed to this thread. I think she is a Graff supporter.
If you have a ping list for AZ politics I would appreciate if you could put me on it. While I do not still live there I am still interested in AZ politics. Most of our friends when my wife and I lived in Tucson were involved in the Republican party.
Thanks,
John
29 posted on 08/31/2006 5:52:29 PM PDT by John D
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To: PhilCollins

Don't donate to these committees until after the primaries are over.


30 posted on 08/31/2006 5:56:52 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: John D

Kolbe, unlike Huffman, was actually more loyal to the Republican Party and voted surprisingly often, given his liberal views, with the Party when it really counted. Huffman, on the other hand, has always been at odds with Republican majority leadership in the AZ House, he turned coat with a cabal of 12 reps and joined with the Dems to pass the liberal Dem governor's budget over the Republican majority budget, and he votes far too often with the Democrats. He's not a centrist, he's a liberal and he's worse than Kolbe. His record proves that.


31 posted on 08/31/2006 6:01:35 PM PDT by Spiff (Death before Dhimmitude)
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To: Spiff

Geez Louise! I thought it was a bad situation here in Tennessee when one conservative cancelled the other out (Van Hilleary vs. Ed Bryant) enabling blatant Democrat-appeasing RINO Bob Corker to run against Tennessee's Obama, John Ford Jr. - scion of one of the most corrupt politically connected families in recent history.

We don't know if Corker can take Frist's seat because of all the bad blood. Had one of the conservatives won it would have been no contest. It's looking like one (Van Hilleary) was pushed to stay in the race just to take votes away from the certain winner, Ed Bryant. I added it up myself and that's what happened.

So we have a weak psedo-conservative Republican famous for cutting deals versus a Democrat who's party is turning out all guns to get that Senate seat. I hope your state has better luck.


32 posted on 08/31/2006 6:46:05 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (Anti-NeoCon)
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To: AZRepublican; Arizona Carolyn; Delphinium; EternalVigilance; fieldmarshaldj; PhilDragoo; ...

This is inexcusable. This is all about the Washington, D.C. establishment not being serious about border security.


33 posted on 08/31/2006 6:48:53 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (illegal aliens commit crimes that Americans won't commit)
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To: Spiff

Typical.

It's about getting to the point where an endorsement from the GOP in a primary is going to have to be used as a red flag. Same as when the NYT's endorses someone.


34 posted on 08/31/2006 6:57:01 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Kobach: Amnesty is going from an illegal to a legal position, without imposing the original penalty.)
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To: PhilCollins

This makes me sick. The party should never have endorsed either, but if they felt like they should have, it should have been the Republican.


35 posted on 08/31/2006 8:08:07 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: Spiff

I called Randy this morning; had to go to work, but I asked him to send out a blast e-mail to his campaign supporters about contacting the NRCC.

I also spoke to Paula Maxwell from the Hellon campaign. We are united on this.


36 posted on 08/31/2006 8:16:09 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert (Texas Cowboy...graduated to Glory)
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To: Clintonfatigued

I've met Randy a couple of times. He's an awesome candidate.

Personally, I think he's going to win in spite of this treachery by our squishy GOP leadership.

Once again, they've put their base's hard-earned money on a broken-down liberal nag.





37 posted on 08/31/2006 9:27:26 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: NewRomeTacitus
On Randy Graf's website there's a downloadable copy of one of the campaign mailers which compares Randy Graf's and Steve Huffman's views and records.

Here are the main points:

Issue Graf Huffman
National Guard on the Border Supports Voted "No"
In-State Tuition for Illegals? Opposes Voted "Yes"
Proposition 200
(No Benefits for Illegals)
Supported Opposed
School Choice Supports Opposes
Taxes & Spending Rated "Friend of the
Taxpayer"
Wors Grade of any
Republican State Rep.
Protecting your
2nd Amendment Rights
"A+" NRA Rating
GOA Endorsed
8-Year Record of Anti-
Gun Owner Votes
Marriage Only Between One
Man and One Woman
Supports Voted "No"
Eliminating Marriage
Penalty Tax
Supports Eliminating
the Tax
Voted to KEEP
the Tax
Pro-Life Yes - Only Pro-Life
Candidate in Race
No - Earned Pro
Abortion Rating
Parental Consent for
Abortions for Minor Children
Yes Voted "No"
Tort Reform to End
Frivilous Lawsuits
Supports Opposes
Taxpayer Bill of Rights
(TABOR)
Supports Opposes
Arizona Tax Revolt Supports Opposes

Graf is clearly the real Republican in this race. Huffman can run but he can't hide from his liberal record.

38 posted on 08/31/2006 9:52:15 PM PDT by Spiff (Death before Dhimmitude)
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To: PhilCollins
Many people, on Free Republic, said that they don't donate to the NRCC because the money might be given to RINO's.

(raising hand) Yep, that's me. I cut 'em off because of crap like this.

39 posted on 08/31/2006 9:57:48 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Spiff

Yes, there is only one Republican in this primary, yet the GOP gives money to the scumbag liberal.
Un-friggin-believable.


40 posted on 08/31/2006 9:59:29 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Soul Seeker
It's about getting to the point where an endorsement from the GOP in a primary is going to have to be used as a red flag. Same as when the NYT's endorses someone.

That is an excellent point.

41 posted on 08/31/2006 10:00:59 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
Yes, there is only one Republican in this primary, yet the GOP gives money to the scumbag liberal. Un-friggin-believable.

They do it all the time but every time before the scumbag liberal RINO was tne incumbent. This time there is no incumbent in the race and the NRCC has acted inappropriately.

42 posted on 08/31/2006 10:02:33 PM PDT by Spiff (Death before Dhimmitude)
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To: NormsRevenge

(( ping ))

Check this out. Sounds like the Kalifornia GOP.


43 posted on 08/31/2006 10:03:00 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


44 posted on 09/01/2006 8:56:39 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: EternalVigilance

IMHO, the GOP establishment's stand is not so much about electability as it is support for open borders. A Graf victory would force the open borders crowd to take notice.


45 posted on 09/01/2006 9:40:23 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (illegal aliens commit crimes that Americans won't commit)
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To: Clintonfatigued

I totally agree.


46 posted on 09/01/2006 10:02:34 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Clintonfatigued

Exactly. They could care less what we, the (informed) voters, think.


47 posted on 09/01/2006 4:45:15 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: The Old Hoosier

I am originally from Tucson. My brother (a conservative business owner) is helping Graf out. He told me last weekend that Randy is slightly ahead in the polls.


48 posted on 09/01/2006 8:08:20 PM PDT by wjcsux (I would prefer to have the German army in front of me than the French army behind me- Gen. G. Patton)
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To: EternalVigilance

The NRCC clearly thinks that Graf cannot win the General Election, and I agree with that judgment. I don't think it suggests that the NRCC has gone "Torie" as it were, as to ideology.


49 posted on 09/01/2006 9:20:17 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie

They rarely think a conservative can win anything...which of course often becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy...especially because they withhold the resources needed to succeed.


50 posted on 09/02/2006 5:43:16 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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