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KATHERINE HARRIS ON HARDBALL
8/30/2006 | hardball

Posted on 08/31/2006 3:13:35 PM PDT by luckycin

katherine harris supports the fair tax


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: hotfloridababe; katherineharris; niceprofile; senaterace; whathappenedtoher
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1 posted on 08/31/2006 3:13:36 PM PDT by luckycin
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To: luckycin

I statred watching. Nora O'Donnell is the host. Katherine has not been on yet but Bush's councel (Dan Bartlett) sounded great articulating the presidens positions.


2 posted on 08/31/2006 4:16:51 PM PDT by dubie
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To: luckycin

She sounds good to me... If I were in Florida, I would vote for her...


3 posted on 08/31/2006 4:48:53 PM PDT by dubie
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To: luckycin

"Across the board Republicans have supported me."

Katherine is either lying or deluded.


4 posted on 08/31/2006 4:49:18 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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To: luckycin

Countdown for the hysterical bashers to show up and pollute the thread.


5 posted on 08/31/2006 4:49:41 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (404 Page Error Found)
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To: dubie

Floridians, why is she such a pariah in Florida, and why doesn't the national Republican party support her?


6 posted on 08/31/2006 4:50:07 PM PDT by Uncle Vlad (You cannot protect the peoples' civil liberties if you refuse to protect the people.)
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To: luckycin

Did she make sure all the panelists were Christians?


7 posted on 08/31/2006 4:50:52 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (the war on poverty should include health club memberships for the morbidly poor)
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To: gcruse

"That's kind of old news. Let's move on."

Yeah, let's forget that you are and have been a flake. Feh.


8 posted on 08/31/2006 4:51:02 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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To: Uncle Vlad
Floridians, why is she such a pariah in Florida, and why doesn't the national Republican party support her?

Katherine Harris: God Didn't Want Secular U.S.

9 posted on 08/31/2006 4:51:52 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (the war on poverty should include health club memberships for the morbidly poor)
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To: Uncle Vlad
Because some conservatives and RNC insiders are hypocrites.
10 posted on 08/31/2006 4:52:11 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (404 Page Error Found)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Countdown for the hysterical bashers to show up and pollute the thread.

The clock is ticking and I don't see 'em.

I can't vote in Florida but hey, she's hot looking and seems to have her head on straight.

11 posted on 08/31/2006 4:52:32 PM PDT by humblegunner (If you're gonna die, die with your boots on.)
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To: luckycin
No she doesn't. She uses it as a campaign tool. If she supported the Fair Tax then she would cosponsor the bill (HR25) which she has not done.
12 posted on 08/31/2006 4:54:25 PM PDT by FloridianBushFan (I support National Security. I SUPPORT HR4437 . Will McBride for US Senate)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

The gratitude of princes...


13 posted on 08/31/2006 4:55:31 PM PDT by Uncle Vlad (You cannot protect the peoples' civil liberties if you refuse to protect the people.)
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To: FloridianBushFan

What has McBride co-sponsored or sponsored besides lawsuits?


14 posted on 08/31/2006 4:55:52 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (404 Page Error Found)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Katherine Harris is the one in elected office and can prove she supports the Fair Tax by cosponsoring the bill and she refuses to do so.


15 posted on 08/31/2006 4:57:31 PM PDT by FloridianBushFan (I support National Security. I SUPPORT HR4437 . Will McBride for US Senate)
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To: FloridianBushFan
Katherine Harris is the one in elected office and can prove she supports the Fair Tax by cosponsoring the bill and she refuses to do so.

The bill was introduced in 1999, and Harris didn't come into Congress until 2002. Kinda hard to be a co-sponsor when you're in Congress for just four years.

Since then Harris had more pressing concerns, such as the WOT, than worrying about the FairTax.

16 posted on 08/31/2006 5:05:09 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (404 Page Error Found)
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To: luckycin

Just great. With supporters like her for the Fair Tax, it has NO HOPE of passing.

Two soft heads on Hardball tonight.


17 posted on 08/31/2006 5:08:10 PM PDT by 308MBR (Dar el Harb feels one 1,400 year long "Jihad" is enough for one planet. Bye, goat pokers.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
You need to check your research.

H.R.25 Title: To promote freedom, fairness, and economic opportunity by repealing the income tax and other taxes, abolishing the Internal Revenue Service, and enacting a national sales tax to be administered primarily by the States.
Sponsor: Rep Linder, John [GA-7] (introduced 1/4/2005) Cosponsors (55)

Related Bills: S.25, S.1921

Latest Major Action: 1/4/2005 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Ways and Means.

COSPONSORS(55), ALPHABETICAL [followed by Cosponsors withdrawn]: (Sort: by date),

Rep Akin, W. Todd [MO-2] - 3/1/2005 Rep Bachus, Spencer [AL-6] - 1/31/2006
Rep Baker, Richard H. [LA-6] - 3/8/2005 Rep Bartlett, Roscoe G. [MD-6] - 2/9/2005
Rep Bilirakis, Michael [FL-9] - 1/25/2005 Rep Bonilla, Henry [TX-23] - 2/8/2005
Rep Bonner, Jo [AL-1] - 3/14/2006 Rep Brady, Kevin [TX-8] - 1/4/2005
Rep Brown, Henry E., Jr. [SC-1] - 9/13/2005 Rep Burton, Dan [IN-5] - 9/29/2005
Rep Carter, John R. [TX-31] - 10/18/2005 Rep Conaway, K. Michael [TX-11] - 3/8/2005
Rep Crenshaw, Ander [FL-4] - 3/16/2006 Rep Cubin, Barbara [WY] - 2/8/2005
Rep Culberson, John Abney [TX-7] - 1/4/2005 Rep Davis, Jo Ann [VA-1] - 10/28/2005
Rep Deal, Nathan [GA-10] - 1/4/2005 Rep DeLay, Tom [TX-22] - 1/4/2005
Rep Drake, Thelma D. [VA-2] - 6/8/2006 Rep Duncan, John J., Jr. [TN-2] - 10/18/2005
Rep Feeney, Tom [FL-24] - 3/14/2006 Rep Flake, Jeff [AZ-6] - 1/4/2005
Rep Franks, Trent [AZ-2] - 4/26/2005 Rep Gingrey, Phil [GA-11] - 3/15/2005
Rep Granger, Kay [TX-12] - 6/19/2006 Rep Graves, Sam [MO-6] - 4/13/2005
Rep Gutknecht, Gil [MN-1] - 1/4/2005 Rep Hall, Ralph M. [TX-4] - 2/8/2005
Rep Hefley, Joel [CO-5] - 5/19/2005 Rep Hensarling, Jeb [TX-5] - 2/1/2005
Rep Hunter, Duncan [CA-52] - 10/6/2005 Rep Keller, Ric [FL-8] - 5/3/2005
Rep King, Steve [IA-5] - 1/4/2005 Rep Kingston, Jack [GA-1] - 1/4/2005
Rep Lewis, Jerry [CA-41] - 5/3/2005 Rep McCaul, Michael T. [TX-10] - 1/25/2005
Rep Mica, John L. [FL-7] - 6/12/2006 Rep Miller, Gary G. [CA-42] - 2/9/2005
Rep Miller, Jeff [FL-1] - 1/25/2005 Rep Moran, Jerry [KS-1] - 2/28/2006
Rep Myrick, Sue [NC-9] - 4/12/2005 Rep Neugebauer, Randy [TX-19] - 2/1/2005
Rep Ney, Robert W. [OH-18] - 3/2/2005 Rep Norwood, Charlie [GA-9] - 1/6/2005
Rep Pearce, Stevan [NM-2] - 2/8/2005 Rep Poe, Ted [TX-2] - 10/27/2005
Rep Price, Tom [GA-6] - 1/4/2005 Rep Sodrel, Michael E. [IN-9] - 3/1/2005
Rep Stearns, Cliff [FL-6] - 3/1/2005 Rep Sullivan, John [OK-1] - 1/31/2006
Rep Tancredo, Thomas G. [CO-6] - 9/13/2005 Rep Thornberry, Mac [TX-13] - 4/6/2005
Rep Tiahrt, Todd [KS-4] - 2/8/2006 Rep Westmoreland, Lynn A. [GA-8] - 1/4/2005
Rep Young, Don [AK] - 5/5/2005
18 posted on 08/31/2006 5:17:46 PM PDT by FloridianBushFan (I support National Security. I SUPPORT HR4437 . Will McBride for US Senate)
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To: dubie

Yes Norah tried her best to sandbag her. Ms.Odonnell is a mean little bitch. Her next guest was Christopher Hitchen, who, after being introduced by Norah, Hitchens corrected her facts and said he was sure she wouldn't mind if he corrected her. She replied, "Not at all dear." She was royally pissed off.


19 posted on 08/31/2006 5:26:41 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: Texas Songwriter

Yeah, a bitc* but easy on the eyes. I was half tempted just to turn the volume down...


20 posted on 08/31/2006 5:40:31 PM PDT by dubie
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To: luckycin

One more reason not to vote for her. Thanks.


21 posted on 08/31/2006 5:50:40 PM PDT by balrog666 (Ignorance is never better than knowledge. - Enrico Fermi)
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To: dubie

She made a REALLY STOOPID remark a few days ago. It smacked of religious bigotry. I don't remember the details.


22 posted on 08/31/2006 5:55:21 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: gcruse
Katherine is either lying or deluded

I don't think she's too bright.

23 posted on 08/31/2006 5:56:21 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: gcruse
Katherine is either lying or deluded.

"Or"? They're not mutually exclusive.

24 posted on 08/31/2006 5:58:21 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: freedumb2003

I remember something about Christians being more ... something than others. I don't remember th ewhole thing. Can you fill us in? She really stepped in it.


25 posted on 08/31/2006 5:59:39 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"The Florida Republican candidate for U.S. Senate also said that if Christians are not elected, politicians will "legislate sin," including abortion and gay marriage."

She does it to herself.

26 posted on 08/31/2006 6:05:36 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: Cobra64
> I remember something about Christians being more ... something than others. I don't remember th ewhole thing. Can you fill us in? She really stepped in it.

Sorry to say, she really did. Basically said that only Christians were fit for government positions because anyone else will "legislate sin"; and that non-Christian voters "didn't know better" and were being misled by non-Christians in public office.

That was bad, but what really sank the raft was the comment about, "God chooses our rulers". Wrong on two counts -- first, God may inspire, but citizens vote; and second, our leaders are supposed to "govern", not "rule". We left rulers at the doorstep of the Revolutionary War.

27 posted on 08/31/2006 6:06:26 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Cobra64
I remember something about Christians being more ... something than others. I don't remember th ewhole thing. Can you fill us in? She really stepped in it.

There is more info Here

But one of her gems is:

"If you're not electing Christians, then in essence you are going to legislate sin," Harris added.

I was a big Harrs fan, but her statements mean that she is a) dumber than a bag of hammers and/or b) frightening.

28 posted on 08/31/2006 6:07:14 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (the war on poverty should include health club memberships for the morbidly poor)
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To: dayglored
That was bad, but what really sank the raft was the comment about, "God chooses our rulers". Wrong on two counts -- first, God may inspire, but citizens vote; and second, our leaders are supposed to "govern", not "rule". We left rulers at the doorstep of the Revolutionary War.

What really disturbed me was the number of FReepers that supported her in her statements. I could have sworn I was on a thread in New England in the 17th Century.

29 posted on 08/31/2006 6:08:59 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (the war on poverty should include health club memberships for the morbidly poor)
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To: Cobra64
Here are a couple threads that talk about her comments.

Katherine Harris: God Didn't Want Secular U.S.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1690797/posts

Katherine Harris says failure to elect Christians will `legislate sin'
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1690257/posts

Here is the link to the article where the comments were made.

"...thinking that they needed to avoid politics and that is so wrong because God is the one who chooses our rulers. And if we are the ones not actively involved in electing those godly men and women and if people aren’t involved in helping godly men in getting elected than we’re going to have a nation of secular laws. That’s not what our founding fathers intended and that’s certainly isn’t what God intended"

http://www.floridabaptistwitness.com/6298.article
"If you are not electing Christians, tried and true, under public scrutiny and pressure, if you’re not electing Christians then in essence you are going to legislate sin. They can legislate sin."
30 posted on 08/31/2006 6:10:25 PM PDT by FloridianBushFan (I support National Security. I SUPPORT HR4437 . Will McBride for US Senate)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Because some conservatives and RNC insiders are hypocrites politically astute.

There -- fixed it (no charge).

31 posted on 08/31/2006 6:10:28 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (the war on poverty should include health club memberships for the morbidly poor)
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To: luckycin
Per the rules.


32 posted on 08/31/2006 6:14:25 PM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Fake but Accurate": NY Times)
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To: freedumb2003

She'll be the nominee, to your chagrin.


33 posted on 08/31/2006 6:15:38 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (404 Page Error Found)
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To: FloridianBushFan; Extremely Extreme Extremist
Thanks for the links.

I don't know much about Harris and have no dog in this fight, but her making those remarks are going to kill her election.

EEE, FYI

34 posted on 08/31/2006 6:28:08 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: freedumb2003

My sentiments exactly. I could not believe my eyes when I heard it. I'm surprised it's not played up all over the MSM.


35 posted on 08/31/2006 6:29:41 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: Cobra64
Actually it was on Fox News that I know of and has made the newspapers worldwide
36 posted on 08/31/2006 6:31:37 PM PDT by FloridianBushFan (I support National Security. I SUPPORT HR4437 . Will McBride for US Senate)
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To: dayglored
Excellent assessment. Thank you.


37 posted on 08/31/2006 6:32:23 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: Cobra64

"I don't remember the details."

I can see that whatever she said made a real lasting impression on you.


38 posted on 08/31/2006 6:40:47 PM PDT by toddlintown (IT)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

There's 2 reasons I'd vote for her.


39 posted on 08/31/2006 6:42:23 PM PDT by toddlintown (IT)
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To: toddlintown

It did but I don't like to mis-quote. Facts are more important. That is why I asked another FReeper for clarification. Is that okay with you?


40 posted on 08/31/2006 6:51:15 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: Cobra64

"Is that okay with you?"

Gee. I don't know. I know you said something silly, but I can't remember what it was. It was big though.


41 posted on 08/31/2006 6:58:39 PM PDT by toddlintown (IT)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan


42 posted on 08/31/2006 7:00:19 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat

Per the rules...


43 posted on 08/31/2006 7:00:44 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: toddlintown

Are you here? Your home page says you have been suspended or banned as of 10:01 EST


44 posted on 08/31/2006 7:02:50 PM PDT by freedomlover (This tagline has been pulled - - - - Okay?)
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To: freedomlover

"Your home page says you have been suspended or banned as of 10:01 EST"

I've hacked my way back. Don't tell anyone.


45 posted on 08/31/2006 7:05:03 PM PDT by toddlintown (IT)
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To: toddlintown
Kewl. I'm glad it's not series.


46 posted on 08/31/2006 7:05:46 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
I prefer this arrangement.


47 posted on 08/31/2006 7:06:13 PM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Fake but Accurate": NY Times)
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To: dubie

You are correct about that.


48 posted on 08/31/2006 7:07:25 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: toddlintown; All

I don't GAS. I just thought it was odd.

I won't tell if you won't.


49 posted on 08/31/2006 7:07:50 PM PDT by freedomlover (This tagline has been pulled - - - - Okay?)
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To: freedumb2003; Cobra64
> ...her statements mean that she is a) dumber than a bag of hammers and/or b) frightening.

I don't believe she's stupid.

What's frightening is not her beliefs (it's a free country), nor her speaking her mind (again, it's a free country), but the fact that she thinks people should put her in office on the basis of these statements. They're clearly at odds with any reasonable reading of the Founders' intent.

50 posted on 08/31/2006 7:08:16 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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