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Belgian Authorities Destroy Holocaust Records
Brussels Journal ^ | 8-31-2006 | Paul Belien

Posted on 08/31/2006 3:46:21 PM PDT by spkpls4

The Belgian authorities have destroyed archives and records relating to the persecution and deportation of Jews in Belgium in the 1930s and 1940s. Some of this happened as recently as the late 1990s. This was revealed during hearings in the Belgian Senate last Spring. Though the Senate report dates from 4 May the Belgian press has not yet mentioned the affair. The Senate report says that “documents about the period 1930-1950 have been destroyed on a massive scale.”

The systematic destructions of the records of police and judiciary from the 1930s and ’40s happened chiefly in Brussels and Wallonia, the French-speaking south of Belgium. The Senate report states that in Flanders, the Dutch-speaking north of the country, archives have been saved thanks to conscientious archivists. “This policy – of having competent archivists manage dead archives – contrasts with the disastrous situation at the offices of the public prosecutors in Brussels and Wallonia.”

While the records about the persecution of the Antwerp Jewry have been kept intact, documents about the fate of the Jews in Brussels and in French-speaking cities with large pre-war Jewish communities, such as Charleroi and Liège, were purposely destroyed. In Charleroi all the archives relating to the 1930s and the war years have vanished. In Brussels the judicial archives are present “until the early 1930s, while there is (almost) nothing left of the period thereafter,” the report says, adding that “Reference is often made to the 1944 fire of the Palais de Justice to explain this lack of archives [...] However, there is no doubt that large parts of the Brussels judicial wartime archives were destroyed after 1944.”

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KEYWORDS: censorship; erasure; recyclebinofhistory; revisionism; whitewash
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1 posted on 08/31/2006 3:46:22 PM PDT by spkpls4
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To: spkpls4

future capitol of the world getting all Orwellian.


2 posted on 08/31/2006 3:47:05 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (go easy on 'em. there is a modicum of substance even in style.)
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To: spkpls4

Unbelievable. And their beer sucks too.


3 posted on 08/31/2006 3:47:45 PM PDT by toddlintown (IT)
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To: spkpls4

"Oceana has always been at war with Eurasia."


4 posted on 08/31/2006 3:50:44 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: spkpls4
As was the case in most European countries,there were obviously more than a few sympathizers and accomplices in Belgium...and who knows how many of them hold,or held at one time,prominent positions in Belgian society.
5 posted on 08/31/2006 3:50:52 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("An empty limousine pulled up and Hillary Clinton got out")
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To: spkpls4
Some of this happened as recently as the late 1990s.

I suppose noone bothered to check Sandy Berger's pants. (sorry)

I imagine there will be more of this kind of "history erasing" as time goes on. Unbelievable is right.

6 posted on 08/31/2006 3:54:16 PM PDT by Shelayne (...And though my heart is torn, I will praise You in this storm... ~~Casting Crowns)
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To: toddlintown

What Belgium did is deplorable.

(But their beer most certainly does not suck!)


7 posted on 08/31/2006 3:54:32 PM PDT by KJC1
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The beer is the best part!


8 posted on 08/31/2006 3:56:56 PM PDT by spkpls4 (Jeremiah 29:11)
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Unbelievable...

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9 posted on 08/31/2006 3:57:54 PM PDT by nutmeg (National security trumps everything else.)
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ping


10 posted on 08/31/2006 3:57:57 PM PDT by spkpls4 (Jeremiah 29:11)
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To: toddlintown
"And their beer sucks too."

Wrong!

11 posted on 08/31/2006 4:00:03 PM PDT by lormand (Nuke the Islamic States, or kiss your @55 goodbye)
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To: spkpls4

No, the beer really does suck.


12 posted on 08/31/2006 4:01:04 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: KJC1
"What Belgium did is deplorable."

Totally. However, Belgium did give us "Juju", the cutest (and best) tennis player around today for my money. The French-speaking part, too.


13 posted on 08/31/2006 4:02:52 PM PDT by Al Simmons (Why Consider Rudy in 2008?...because National Security should not be left to children...)
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To: vladimir998

"No, the beer really does suck."

I like Belgian beer. I suspect you are going to lose this vote off.


14 posted on 08/31/2006 4:07:44 PM PDT by monday
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To: spkpls4

What turds.


15 posted on 08/31/2006 4:08:57 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: vladimir998

No, I've had some really good Belgian beer and some really bad Belgian beer. My favorite so far is St. Feuellian (sp). The kriek (cherry) isn't too bad either if you like flavored beers.


16 posted on 08/31/2006 4:09:23 PM PDT by spkpls4 (Jeremiah 29:11)
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To: spkpls4

I like "Beer" flavored Beer

TT


17 posted on 08/31/2006 4:11:40 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: TexasTransplant

Too funny; after drinking some of this Belgian beer, some American beer taste like water. I'm getting spoiled.


18 posted on 08/31/2006 4:12:40 PM PDT by spkpls4 (Jeremiah 29:11)
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To: spkpls4
Is this the "tree falls in the woods" version of revisionist history?

If a sadistic dictator kills six million people and there are no records of it did it really happen?

19 posted on 08/31/2006 4:17:36 PM PDT by infidel29 ("The Democrat Party is like a mule. It has neither pride of ancestry nor hope of posterity.")
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Wow! That's what I call my little head!


20 posted on 08/31/2006 4:22:58 PM PDT by montomike (If you didn't find this funny and were offended...have a riot.)
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Just Damn!


21 posted on 08/31/2006 4:26:44 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: toddlintown

I've spent some time in Belgium and have worked with various people from there and I can't say that this is surprising at all. Belgians are, and always will be, my least favorite of all Europeans.


22 posted on 08/31/2006 4:29:23 PM PDT by frankiep (I respect Islamofacists more than the American left - at least they ADMIT that they hate the US.)
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To: spkpls4
Well, it all makes sense. How can they considere themselves the "righteous" of the world, having the World Court and all, if their true historaical face is documented?

They were as bad as Nazis and the Vichy governments, and they have no more moral authority to claim legitimate righteousness than Uganda or Rwanda do.

I hate the delusional little mini-nazis...

23 posted on 08/31/2006 4:31:13 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: spkpls4
The beer is the best part!

No it's not; their chocolate might be.

Although I can live out the rest of my life without both.

24 posted on 08/31/2006 4:32:52 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: spkpls4
>>>>"Too funny; after drinking some of this Belgian beer, some American beer taste like water"<<<<<

That may be my problem, I drink it like water, I like it better than water and it is cheaper than water.

(My Sears mower even has a coozie holder. I guess they don't call it lawnmower beer for nothing)

TT
25 posted on 08/31/2006 4:33:44 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: Publius6961

Paul Belien has an excellent book out called "A Throne in Brussels". Very eye-opening. I recommend it to any who have the time or inclination to read.


26 posted on 08/31/2006 4:38:19 PM PDT by spkpls4 (Jeremiah 29:11)
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"Jimmah" Carter will be pleased.


27 posted on 08/31/2006 4:45:39 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: frankiep

"Belgians are, and always will be, my least favorite of all Europeans."

I've heard people say that Belgians seem like people who are happy standing around like they're waiting for someone to tell them what to do.


28 posted on 08/31/2006 5:05:49 PM PDT by toddlintown (IT)
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To: spkpls4

What about their waffles?!?


29 posted on 08/31/2006 5:08:31 PM PDT by Cheburashka (World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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AM, pinged you only because I believe this publication can be posted in it's entirety, but if not, you can delete this post. Interesting article, and I have more confidence in FRs archives than most places.

Belgian Authorities Destroy Holocaust Records

From the desk of Paul Belien on Thu, 2006-08-31 21:32

The Belgian authorities have destroyed archives and records relating to the persecution and deportation of Jews in Belgium in the 1930s and 1940s. Some of this happened as recently as the late 1990s. This was revealed during hearings in the Belgian Senate last Spring. Though the Senate report dates from 4 May the Belgian press has not yet mentioned the affair. The Senate report says that “documents about the period 1930-1950 have been destroyed on a massive scale.”

The systematic destructions of the records of police and judiciary from the 1930s and ’40s happened chiefly in Brussels and Wallonia, the French-speaking south of Belgium. The Senate report states that in Flanders, the Dutch-speaking north of the country, archives have been saved thanks to conscientious archivists. “This policy – of having competent archivists manage dead archives – contrasts with the disastrous situation at the offices of the public prosecutors in Brussels and Wallonia.”

While the records about the persecution of the Antwerp Jewry have been kept intact, documents about the fate of the Jews in Brussels and in French-speaking cities with large pre-war Jewish communities, such as Charleroi and Liège, were purposely destroyed. In Charleroi all the archives relating to the 1930s and the war years have vanished. In Brussels the judicial archives are present “until the early 1930s, while there is (almost) nothing left of the period thereafter,” the report says, adding that “Reference is often made to the 1944 fire of the Palais de Justice to explain this lack of archives [...] However, there is no doubt that large parts of the Brussels judicial wartime archives were destroyed after 1944.”

The report says that some archives disappeared very recently, during the reform of the Belgian police forces in the late 1990s and early 2000s, when the Gendarmerie was abolished and the Federal Police was instituted. Crucial parts of the Gendarmerie archives vanished in the process.

In Charleroi the archives of both the municipal police as well as the judicial police were completely destroyed in the late 1970s. Before the war Charleroi had a relatively large Jewish community which was all but exterminated during the war, while in Antwerp a significant proportion of the Jews managed to survive. Yet in Belgium no-one is familiar with the extermination of the Walloon Jewry, while Antwerp is regularly blamed for having been a “center of anti-Semitism.” By destroying paper trails people are made to forget that certain events ever took place.

Hugo Vandenberghe, the leader of the Flemish Christian-Democrats, suggested that the destruction of the archives “may have had a political motive.” Senator Vandenberghe referred to the anti-Semitism of the Belgian authorities in the 1930s. The historian Nico Wouters told the Senators during the hearings that even after the war the Belgian authorities continued to arrest German Jews who had survived the holocaust by going into hiding, under the pretext that they were “citizens of a hostile nation.”

Records relating to the so-called “phantom trains” have also disappeared. The “phantom trains” were convoys of “unpatriotic” Belgians, such as Flemish-Nationalists and Communists, and non-Belgian citizens, most of them Jewish fugitives from Germany and Poland. They were arrested by the Belgian authorities at the beginning of the war and deported to France.

Thousands of Jewish families had fled to Belgium in the late 1930s. They had not been welcome. After the German annexation of Austria in March 1938, Charles du Bus de Warnaffe, the then Belgian Minister of Justice, ordered the Belgian embassy in Vienna to deny visas to Jews. The Minister, a Walloon member of the Catholic Party, opined in the Belgian Parliament (22 Nov. 1938) that the Jews had “for centuries constituted a problem in Europe.” In an article he called them an “extremely unreliable” people; “they have no word of honour and do not keep it.” Charles du Bus de Warnaffe became Minister of Justice again after the war, and gave the death penalty to Flemish-Nationalists who had fought with the Germans on the Eastern Front.

In January 1940 the Belgian King Leopold III, the father of the present King Albert II and an outspoken anti-Semite, told the Belgian government: “The number of Israelites that have entered the country illegally since September 1939 is estimated to be 30,000. Action against them cannot be harsh enough.”

When German troops invaded Belgium on 10 May 1940, the Belgian authorities rounded up thousands of “unpatriotic” Belgians and foreigners, often entire families. Their exact number is unknown, as the records have been been destroyed. In Antwerp alone, however, 3,000 suspects were arrested. The majority of them were Jews; about 400 were (non-Jewish) German citizens and 20 were Flemish-Nationalists. Citizens from allied and neutral countries were arrested as well.

The prisoners were stowed in railway wagons and deported to France. One victim later recalled: “It took our train seven days to get from Brussels to Orléans. Under a torrid heat, locked up with 40 people, including women and children, in a hermetically sealed wagon where we had to stay day and night, we suffered from hunger, a lack of air and especially from thirst. We were left for 43 hours without receiving even a drop of water. [...] Many people died en route.” The exact number of the victims is unknown.

Most records relating to the “phantom trains” have disappeared, but one case, involving 79 prisoners, is well-known because it included a prominent Flemish politician, Joris van Severen, the leader of a fervently pro-Belgian Fascist party. The group was made up of 21 Belgians (including an agent of the British Intelligence Service) and 58 non-Belgians: 19 Jews, 15 non-Jewish Germans, 9 Italians (including at least 4 Communist opponents of Mussolini), 6 Dutchmen (including an 18-year-old girl with her mother and grandmother), 3 Luxemburgians, 2 citizens of neutral Switzerland, a Spaniard, a Dane, a Frenchman and an English-speaking Canadian. French soldiers gone berserk massacred 21 of them at the French town of Abbeville. The victims included the Canadian, the Dutch grandmother, a German Catholic monk, a Hungarian Jew, a Czech Jew, a Communist Brussels town councillor and Joris van Severen and his deputy.

Thousands of civilians deported by the Belgians on the “phantom trains” were released by the Wehrmacht, the German army, after the surrender of France. Their number included many Jews. They were the only Jews ever liberated by Hitler’s army. The Wehrmacht allowed them to return to Belgium. However, 3,537 Jews holding German and Austrian passports were kept imprisoned. This group later ended up in Auschwitz, where they were murdered. They were the only Auschwitz victims who had been arrested at the order of a Western goverment. Leo Frenssen, an Antwerp Flemish-Nationalist and pacifist member of the Belgian Parliament, who had also been imprisoned in the South of France, tried in vain to get his Jewish co-prisoners released.

In July 1940 General Eggert Reeder, the head of the Wehrmacht in Brussels, had Robert De Foy, the boss of the Belgian secret police, arrested for the deportations. The SS, however, immediately ordered that De Foy be released. Reeder received this order personally by telephone from Reinhard Heydrich, the head of the German State Security, the Reichssicherheidshauptamt (RSHA), in Berlin. In a 1943 letter to Heinrich Himmler Reeder explained that it emerged that “De Foy had in the months preceding the invasion closely collaborated with the RSHA and with Heydrich himself, to whom he had provided important material.”

After the war Robert De Foy resumed his position as head of the Belgian secret police. No wonder no-one ever investigated how and on whose orders the Belgian secret service had assisted Heydrich before the war. Nor did Belgium ever pay damages to the “phantom train” victims. On the contrary, it even refused to repatriate the bodies of the 21 victims in Abbeville.

30 posted on 08/31/2006 5:09:51 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: toddlintown

Belgians are the nastiest, most arrogant, pompous people I have ever come across in my life. And yes, I am making a sweeping generalization.


31 posted on 08/31/2006 5:10:10 PM PDT by frankiep (I respect Islamofacists more than the American left - at least they ADMIT that they hate the US.)
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To: spkpls4
Did someone get a hankering for Belgian Waffles?
32 posted on 08/31/2006 5:11:25 PM PDT by Radix (You too can learn to Google at Light Speed, for a small fee.)
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Complete article above.

Thank you Belgium, we all know that no Jews from your nation met their death at the hands of your authorities, co-operating with the Nazis. No need to preserve the records. If you maintain them, some heir out there might be able to collect on an insurance policy, or a bank account. Destroying the western banking system. Happened in the field, leave it in the field.

33 posted on 08/31/2006 5:13:22 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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34 posted on 08/31/2006 5:15:03 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 39-43)
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Not Belgians, 'sprouts'.


35 posted on 08/31/2006 5:15:44 PM PDT by Dinsdale
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"Happened in the field, leave it in the field."

Why ... must be a tad bit uncomfortable for these people, 60 years later, shouldering a national guilty conscience.












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36 posted on 08/31/2006 5:24:19 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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37 posted on 08/31/2006 5:25:24 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: spkpls4

Figures... The Walloons are wannabe French. Beligum would be a nice place if the Flemish ran the place.


38 posted on 08/31/2006 5:26:06 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: frankiep
Well, all I can say is that the best girl tennis player in the world, who is Belgian, is very soft-spoken, modest and polite every time I have heard her interviewed.

Oh, and she's cute, too. ;>)

"Allez Juju!"


39 posted on 08/31/2006 5:27:30 PM PDT by Al Simmons (Why Consider Rudy in 2008?...because National Security should not be left to children...)
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To: spkpls4
new belgium

40 posted on 08/31/2006 5:32:33 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 144:1 Praise be to YHvH, my Rock, who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle.)
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To: toddlintown

I absolutely love Belgian beer.


41 posted on 08/31/2006 5:33:02 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: Salem
'Beerfest' awash in raunch, and some laughs

Which is why they're flushing it down the toilet. Jews? What Jews? No Jews here!

More than half a century later, it's odd. Even the Red Cross may be opening their records, now that the heirs of the dead are also dead.

Even for a Euro, bad taste.

42 posted on 08/31/2006 5:33:23 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: spkpls4

It only proves that nothing has changed since Hitler.


43 posted on 08/31/2006 5:36:31 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: SJackson
"Even for a Euro, bad taste."

Indeed....

44 posted on 08/31/2006 5:46:12 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: 2111USMC

It's spoiled and soured and they call it a style.

If it was English ale and tasted like the lactobacillus-ridden swill that's considered a lambic in Belgium, the British brewery would fold from lack of customers. If it's not infected, it's oxidized. I also love their practice of using old and stale hops.

All the cute little stories about spiders and their webs in the old farmhouse breweries, the unique wild yeasts that makes their beers so sour (spoiled) in their open fermenters, and that fact that they have to blend half the crap to make it drinkable tells me that they're pulling the wool over the eyes of many, especially American beer geeks.

And after reading the original subject of this post...I wouldn't give them a penny of my beer money. I'll take an American craft beer with an overdose of some spicey Cascade or even a BudMillerCoors before I'd waste my time or money with these European morons and their products.


45 posted on 08/31/2006 5:47:44 PM PDT by toddlintown (IT)
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To: spkpls4

*8The Belgian authorities have destroyed archives and records relating to the persecution and deportation of Jews in Belgium in the 1930s and 1940s**

This is so sad. Maybe they will be the site of the next Auschwitz.


46 posted on 08/31/2006 5:47:50 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Publius6961
... no more moral authority to claim legitimate righteousness than Uganda or Rwanda do.

And while we're on the topic of Africa, let's not get started with the Belgians in the Congo in the XIX Century. Ghastly.

47 posted on 08/31/2006 5:54:47 PM PDT by Snickersnee (Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket?)
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To: toddlintown

You call it beer??? 10 years old urine.


48 posted on 08/31/2006 6:08:54 PM PDT by QQQQ
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To: spkpls4
The kriek (cherry) isn't too bad either if you like flavored beers.

Might as well drink wine. The real character of beer is lost when you flavor it with fruit. Lambics are more like wine coolers than beer IMO.

Here is a good Belgian beer:


49 posted on 08/31/2006 6:10:52 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s...you weren't really there.)
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To: spkpls4

Next, Holland and maybe France. That way, when the new Muslim majority wants to openly teach their lies about it to all children, not just their own, what will be left to stand in their way? Certainly not the French, at least.


50 posted on 08/31/2006 6:22:00 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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