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Shrapnel-filled rockets used on civilians
WND ^ | August 31, 2006 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 08/31/2006 8:44:57 PM PDT by jdm

WND Exclusive


TROUBLE IN THE HOLY LAND

Shrapnel-filled rockets used on civilians

Israel documents civilian-targeted weapons from Syria, Iran


Posted: August 31, 2006
5:00 p.m. Eastern

By Jerome R. Corsi

© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com


School-zone sign in northern Israel shows evidence of lethal metal balls from Hezbollah rockets (photo: Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs)

Steel balls and other lethal fragments were encased in rockets from Syria and Iran that were used by Hezbollah on Israeli civilian areas during the recent war, the Israeli Ministry of Defense confirmed to WND today.

Photographs of the anti-personnel "flying metal" damage done by Syrian-made 220-mm rockets fired by Hezbollah were published today in Israel by Uzi Rubin of the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs. Rubin served as the head of Israel's Missile Defense Organization from 1991 to 1999, when he oversaw development of the country's Arrow anti-missile defense system.

The published report documented the Hezbollah rockets and rocket launchers as "one of the defining weapons of the second Lebanon war," predicting their impact in the Middle East "will encourage radical movements to adopt rocket attacks against U.S. and Western forces and assets."

The report documented 4,228 rocket impacts inside Israel from rockets fired by Hezbollah from July 13 to Aug. 13. Israel suffered 53 fatalities from the attacks, along with 250 severely wounded people and 2,000 lightly wounded.


Lethal metal balls from Hezbollah rocket embedded in guard rail in northern Israel (photo: Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs)

Nearly 80 percent of the Israeli fatalities involved civilians caught in the open.

Rubin concluded the public shelters and the security rooms dictated by building codes in private dwellings were effective in protecting the 1 million civilians living in the northern Israel areas under attack. Some 250,000 Israeli civilians evacuated the north, relocating to other areas of the country.

Among the Syrian-provided rockets used were:

  • Grad-type 122 mm Katyusha, range 18.6 miles, warhead 66 pounds.

  • Improved Grad 122 mm Katyusha, range 31 miles

  • 220 mm rocket, range range 43.5 miles, probably Syrian-manufactured Russian "Ouragan" Multiple Launch Rocket System

  • "B302" 302 mm rocket, range 62 miles, warhead 386 pounds, probably Syrian-manufactured Chinese WS-1 MLRS

The photographs of Syrian and Iranian rockets fired by Hezbollah provided documentation of worldwide speculation during the war that Syria and Iran both had been involved in arming Hezbollah.


Syrian rocket recovered after attack on northern Israel (photo: Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs)

Israel also identified debris from Iranian-made240 mm Fajr-3 with a range of 28 miles. Hezbollah also attacked Israeli naval vessels in the Mediterranean with the "Noor" (C802) anti-ship cruise missile, a Chinese-designed, Iranian-manufactured missile. On July 14, a C802 killed four Israeli sailors aboard the Israeli Navy Ship INS Hanit.

During the first two weeks of the war, Hezbollah rocket attacks averaged about 100 per day. In early August, Hezbollah doubled the rate of attack to a daily average of 200. There was a decline in the final week, although Hezbollah still was able to launch 250 rockets Aug.13, the day before the cease-fire. Rubin concluded "Israeli counterattacks apparently had no serious influence on Hezbollah's rate of fire but had an effect on the accuracy and geography of the attacks."

Rubin concluded Israel needed to reduce the "flash-to-bang" cycle – the interval from the launch of a Hezbollah rocket to the Israeli counterattack – to a few seconds from the time of pinpointing launcher location. Rubin's second major conclusion was Israel needed "to develop and deploy effective and affordable active defense against rockets to protect vital civilian and military installations."

Early warning sirens were credited with providing "timely alarms, saving innumerable lives."

Counter-fire by Israeli artillery was rated "marginally effective," as were raids by Special Forces units on rocket launchers and command posts. Rubin also rated air strikes as "moderately effective," as they degraded the accuracy of the rocket launchers and pushed them away from the best launching zones from which to strike Haifa.

Rubin noted that one of the major effects of the war was that economic activity in Israel effectively was suspended for a month.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antipersonnel; civilians; collateraldamage; fajr3; hezbollah; iran; israel; katyusha; lethalfragments; noor; ouragan; secondlebanonwar; shrapnel; syria; uzirubin

1 posted on 08/31/2006 8:44:59 PM PDT by jdm
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To: jdm

War crimes!!!
A condemnation from the UN!!!

Oh wait...it was the terrorists doing this? That's ok then.


2 posted on 08/31/2006 8:46:21 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Scotswife

Yeah, they weren't made in the USA so it's A okay...


3 posted on 08/31/2006 8:49:58 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: jdm

Weren't the Al-Appeasers complaining about Israel using cluster bombs?


4 posted on 08/31/2006 9:07:37 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: All

I think this is what they need.... laser defense..

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/754697.html


5 posted on 08/31/2006 9:30:08 PM PDT by az_gila (AZ - Time to replace our governor)
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To: jdm
220 mm rocket, range range 43.5 miles, probably Syrian-manufactured Russian "Ouragan" Multiple Launch Rocket System

Drop one on Moscow.

"B302" 302 mm rocket, range 62 miles, warhead 386 pounds, probably Syrian-manufactured Chinese WS-1 MLRS

Drop one on Beijing.

Then ask them what else they are supplying Tehran.

6 posted on 08/31/2006 9:58:56 PM PDT by TigersEye (Mind speaks in great silence. Ego chatters endlessly on.)
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To: jdm

Pot = Kettle

Flechettes are an anti-personnel weapon that is generally fired from tanks. The shell explodes in the air and releases thousands of metal darts 3.75 mm in length, which disperse in a conical arch three hundred meters long and about ninety meters wide. .

The IDF uses flechette shells (M494 105mm APERS-T rounds) that are 105 mm in diameter and are fired from tanks.

Supplied by none other than - the USofA - and the IDF has been using them for years. Lots of bad blood to go around.


7 posted on 08/31/2006 10:49:37 PM PDT by ASOC (The phrase "What if" or "If only" are for children.)
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To: jdm

BTTT!


8 posted on 08/31/2006 10:56:45 PM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: ASOC
The IDF uses flechette shells (M494 105mm APERS-T rounds) that are 105 mm in diameter and are fired from tanks.

Are these fired at civilians? Because that's who the Katushya rockets are fired at

Your comparison is ridiculous

9 posted on 08/31/2006 11:02:19 PM PDT by dennisw (Confucius say man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok)
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To: jdm



*crickets chirping*

-Unbiased, left wing media's response to this story....


10 posted on 08/31/2006 11:03:27 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: dennisw
Actually, the IDF has been accused of killing lots of civilians, for years now.

Tell you what, instead of just calling a post ridiculous, how about *you* doing a tad of research?

Here is a start for you...

www.btselem.org/english/Firearms/Flechette.asp www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=1242 www.hrw.org/press/2003/04/israel042903.htm And this is not just all Leftist sites

www.janes.com/regional_news/africa_middle_east/news/jdw/jdw010522_2_n.shtml www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=3007

This goes on for another 10 pages if you google "IDF flechette" Other keywords will get you slightly different results.

I am embarresed as an American that these weapons, supplied by us, are used in this manner. And the use may well be against international law.

Kill the bad guys, not everyone in the neighbothood.

I hope this lets you see where I am coming from, based on international news stories and from known 'critical' sources.

11 posted on 08/31/2006 11:18:47 PM PDT by ASOC (The phrase "What if" or "If only" are for children.)
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To: ASOC

I don't believe their BS stories about the IDF. Where are the credible photographs of flechette injuries. #2 If these flechette rounds have been used it is very very rare and they are not used on innocent civilians but ones in fighting or in rioting mode
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http://www.btselem.org/english/Firearms/Flechette.asp
The above site seems credible to me and the IDF use of flechette rounds are justified in the rare instances cited. These maggots fire on the IDF from civilian populations. The IDF takes action. In your book they should do nothing.

I see IDF use of flechette in the recent Hizb'Allah war as justified. What do you think?


12 posted on 09/01/2006 4:56:16 AM PDT by dennisw (Confucius say man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

High Volume. Articles on Israel can also be found by clicking on the Topic or Keyword Israel.

also Keywords 2006israelwar or WOT [War on Terror]

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13 posted on 09/01/2006 6:00:00 AM PDT by SJackson (The PilgrimsóDoing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: dennisw

14 posted on 09/01/2006 6:00:23 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Mid East Ceasefire = Israel ceases but her enemies fire)
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To: Salem; F15Eagle; unionblue83; Sabramerican; sergey1973; T.L.Sink; Yehuda; jabotinsky; ...

Ping!

Naturally, the UN will get right on it and condemn the use of these hideous weapons by Hez-bull-bleep..........um...naturally, the UN will get right on it and condemn the use of these hideous weapons by Hez-bull-bleep........um.........oh, that's right Kofi whats-his-face and the rest of the clowns and the UN are Hez-bull-bleep's buddies. Never mind.


15 posted on 09/01/2006 6:05:09 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Mid East Ceasefire = Israel ceases but her enemies fire)
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To: Convert from ECUSA

thnx!


16 posted on 09/01/2006 6:13:04 AM PDT by dennisw (Confucius say man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok)
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To: jdm
In response the UN, Kofi, issues a condemnation.

UN chief condemns Israel use of cluster bombs in Lebanon

17 posted on 09/01/2006 6:16:33 AM PDT by Sabramerican (Bush Doctrine- Old: Fight terrorists. New: Cease fire with terrorists.)
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To: jdm

Well, this is exactly how anti-personnel weapons are made these days. Actually, for quite some time now. I suppose the dimwit thought they were supposed to make them out of paper so they'd just go BOOM?


18 posted on 09/01/2006 6:22:23 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: ASOC
Flechettes are an anti-personnel weapon that is generally fired from tanks

It is one thing to use flechettes against military targets, or Claymores for that matter. It is another thing entirely to aim hundreds of flying Claymores indiscriminately at civilian areas as Hiz did.

Go sell your moral equivalence arguments to will buyers. You will find few such people here.

19 posted on 09/01/2006 6:28:03 AM PDT by dirtboy (This tagline has been photoshopped)
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To: ASOC
Actually, the IDF has been accused of killing lots of civilians, for years now.

Meanwhile, you can't say SQUAT against Hiz launching attacks from among civilians - a direct war crime - which forces Israel to cause harm to civilians to get at the military targets in their midst - because Hiz wants just that, civilian casualties, so nitwits like you can gripe about horrible Israel.

20 posted on 09/01/2006 6:30:57 AM PDT by dirtboy (This tagline has been photoshopped)
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To: jdm
"will encourage radical movements to adopt rocket attacks against U.S. and Western forces and assets."

The VC/NVA used 122's and 107's against us in Viet Nam, nasty things they were to. In a fire fight you knew more or less where things were going to go, but rockets are so bloody random. Don't know where they come from until it is to late, and don't have a clue where they may land. They were terrifying.

21 posted on 09/01/2006 6:39:18 AM PDT by DaiHuy (I have never seen a situation so dismal that a policeman couldn't make it worse)
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To: dennisw
Bingo!

22 posted on 09/01/2006 7:36:16 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, August 10, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: dirtboy
Bingo!

23 posted on 09/01/2006 7:37:54 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, August 10, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: jdm
So what?

According to most Americans the killing of civilians in war means the terrorists are "winning".

I mean is it not a fact that the majority here will vote for Dems because Iraq is a so-called "mess" because civilians are being murdered in the marketplace.

And that means Iraq was a mistake and we should get out?

The President's approval on Iraq is low because the terrorists are winning by killing civilians.

Evidently, Americans and people worldwide are willing to give the Islamic Cults a great VICTORY for blowing up women and children.
24 posted on 09/01/2006 7:44:50 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: ASOC
Like the MAN says,"your comparison is ridiculous"
25 posted on 09/01/2006 11:34:47 AM PDT by jerryem (A Raghead is something on the end of a Dipstick.)
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To: Convert from ECUSA
YOU CAN'T DRIVE A BRIDGESPIKE WITH A TACKHAMMER!
(The message that should have been send to the Israel high command before they started the war!)
26 posted on 09/01/2006 11:43:19 AM PDT by jerryem (A Raghead is something on the end of a Dipstick.)
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To: ASOC
Lots of bad blood to go around.

Wrong. Isreal doesn't use them against human beings.

27 posted on 09/01/2006 11:48:27 AM PDT by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1600 knives and counting!)
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To: Ramius

Ack. Israel. I knew that.


28 posted on 09/01/2006 11:58:07 AM PDT by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1600 knives and counting!)
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To: dennisw
Janes is hardly a BS source.

It would appear that from this and other posts later on, I cannot make a point. Yes, the hez-b-lah fire at civilians, yes they are monsters.

29 posted on 09/01/2006 4:40:29 PM PDT by ASOC (The phrase "What if" or "If only" are for children.)
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To: ASOC

http://www.janes.com/regional_news/africa_middle_east/news/jdw/jdw010522_2_n.shtml

I looked at your Jane's link and the fleschette rounds are being used on guerrilla fighters, not civilians. Hizb'Allah Katyusha rockets were fired at Israeli civilians. Some of them were packed with ball bearing and other shrapnel


30 posted on 09/01/2006 6:24:29 PM PDT by dennisw (Confucius say man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok)
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