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New rules will require written parental consent for abortions
Houston Chronicle ^ | Sept. 1, 2006 | POLLY ROSS HUGHES

Posted on 09/01/2006 10:59:12 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o

Forms, which must be notarized, also warn teens of medical risks

AUSTIN — After 13 months of intense pressure from opposing factions, the state has adopted rules requiring written — and notarized — parental consent forms for girls under age 18 to get abortions.

The new forms span six pages, warn of medical risks and tout "women's right to know" brochures backed by abortion opponents, said those on opposite sides of the issue.

The rules would take effect 20 days later.

Patrick said the governor's office backed the final form approved late last week, which requires parents' written consent be notarized, an administrative rule not required by the consent law.

"It's been a long-fought battle for this victory," declared Joe Pojman, executive director of Texas Alliance for Life, which opposes abortion. "I believe we will see a drop in abortions and pregnancies for girls 17 years and younger."

Rep. Phil King, R-Weatherford, who sponsored the consent legislation, had complained that more than a year after its passage, the lack of an approved consent form might allow doctors and abortion clinics to skirt the law.

Abortion-rights advocates had opposed the consent form, as adopted, for several reasons, said Peggy Romberg, chief executive officer of the Women's Health and Family Planning Association in Austin.

"We didn't want them (the medical board) to exceed legislative authority," she said. "We also wanted any rules or regulation or form not to create a barrier to care that would delay services, because minors tend to deny they're pregnant."

Pojman said the rules adopted require signatures of the abortion provider, parent and minor girl on consent forms. Doctors also are required to use "due diligence," he added, to verify the age of women claiming to be 18 or older.

polly.hughes@chron.com

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: adolescent; consent; informed; involvement; moralabsolutes; parental; parentalconsent; pregnancy; prolife
This is an importnat step toward protecting young women and their babies from being exploited by the abortion industry.

Some girls who want abortions do so in a spirit of misdirected self-sacrifice: they're willing to endure the physical and spiritual repercussions of abortion precisely because they're "good girls" from "good families" who are reluctant to bring shame and pain to their parents.

This sort of conscientious, "good-girl" abortion-seeker has to realize that her parents would rather have a live grandbaby than a wounded daughter with a fatally-injured soul.

And "good-girls" who aren't yet pregnant will realize that they only way they can spare their parents shame and pain and heartache, is to say "no" to out-of-wedlock sexual intercourse.

I think it's a reasonable expectation that this law will result not only in less abortions, but significantly fewer adolescent pregnancies.

1 posted on 09/01/2006 10:59:13 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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2 posted on 09/01/2006 11:05:40 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Justice and judgment are the foundation of His throne.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Let's hope this starts a momentum that cannot be stopped.


3 posted on 09/01/2006 11:07:02 AM PDT by stm (Good people sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Protagoras

Exactly. Another small step towards sanity. We are winning the debate and must press even harder now. Courageous S. Dakota lead the way.


4 posted on 09/01/2006 11:11:56 AM PDT by pissant
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To: Mrs. Don-o

It's a good thing, for which we can thank God. Abortion is a horrible crime for which there is rarely (never!) any excuse.

Check out the bottom right column entry on this page for a PowerPoint review of this issue - http://menofhonorministry.org/Discipleship.htm


5 posted on 09/01/2006 11:14:26 AM PDT by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Thanks for the ping. I have a couple of questions that I couldn't find answers to in the article:

Do both parents have to sign this form? If so, I see a real potential problem in incest cases.

What is the percentage of abortions performed on women under 18 years of age, compared to women over 18?

Is there a judicial bypass option in this law?


6 posted on 09/01/2006 11:23:10 AM PDT by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Well, I'll be. A minor child needs parental consent before having a surgical procedure.

This SHOULD have been a no-brainer from day one. well, better late than never...


7 posted on 09/01/2006 11:25:00 AM PDT by mrs. a (It's a short life but a merry one...)
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To: wagglebee

Good one.


8 posted on 09/01/2006 11:36:31 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: All

I went looking for statistics regarding the number of abortions performed on women under the age of 18, but ran into a problem.

The statistics seem to be kept for ages under 15 years, and for women from 15-20. That makes it really difficult to tell what percentage of abortions are performed on women under 18, since 18 and 19 year olds are included in the second group.

I'll keep trying, but so far, no luck.


9 posted on 09/01/2006 11:41:04 AM PDT by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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To: mrs. a

The next step is to require notification and approval by the pre-born child that is the target of the abortion.


10 posted on 09/01/2006 11:44:04 AM PDT by RC51
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I remember when my girls were in HS. They would tell of sexually active girls who would resort to having anal or oral sex to protect themselves from pregnancy. I wondered if this was the latest trend?
11 posted on 09/01/2006 12:14:52 PM PDT by wolfcreek (You can spit in our tacos and you can rape our dogs but, you can't take away our freedom!)
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To: MineralMan
The best I could come up with, was these figures for 2000 - 2001:

"Fifty-two percent of U.S. women obtaining abortions are younger than 25: Women aged 20–24 obtain 33% of all abortions, and teenagers obtain 19%."

(Jones RK, Darroch JE and Henshaw SK, Patterns in the socioeconomic characteristics of women obtaining abortions in 2000–2001, Perspectives on Sexual and Reproductive Health, 2002, 34.)

The teenager group includes an unknown percentage of 18 and 19-year-olds who are married. How many unmarried early-and-middle teens (under 18) are having abortions? I don't know.

If I had to make a ballpark estimate, I'd say it was 14% of 1.2 million, or 168,000 every year in the USA.

How many in Texas? I don't know.

12 posted on 09/01/2006 12:36:58 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Abortion: trashing our own.)
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To: wolfcreek
"[High school]girls... would resort to having anal or oral sex to protect themselves from pregnancy."

And how do they protect themselves from feeling like a sexual spittoon?

13 posted on 09/01/2006 12:38:57 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Female-respecting female.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Yeah, I found those stats, too. I understand why they're doing it in 5 year increments, but it makes it virtually impossible to get the number of minors having abortions.

I suspect that the 15,16,and 17 year olds in that 15-20 year old age group get fewer abortions than the 18 and 19 year olds. Probably fewer the younger they are. The 18 and 19 year olds probably skew the data and make it very hard to do an estimate.

The under 15 year old numbers make up less than 1 percent of the total of abortions. I'm guessing that 15 year olds aren't much higher. At 16 and 17, the percentage probably goes up a little, but I'm thinking that the bulk of the abortions in that five-year group is in the 18 and 19 year olds.


14 posted on 09/01/2006 12:41:14 PM PDT by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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To: MineralMan

On second thought, you're right: it's a reasonable assumption that the bulk of abortions in the 15-up-to-20 age range are 18 and 19 year olds, either in college or entry-level employment. I'd revise my estimate upwards accordingly.


15 posted on 09/01/2006 12:47:52 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Abortion: trashing our own.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I mean downwards. Less in the early, under-18 category.
More in the 18-19 category.


16 posted on 09/01/2006 12:49:25 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Abortion: trashing our own.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I guess what I'm getting at here is that the percentage of abortions performed on under-18 girls is probably pretty low, overall.

I have no real problem with requiring parental notification or even consent for minors, as long as there is a judicial option for those few cases where incest is involved.

As you may know, I'm not a pro-lifer. I'm not a huge pro-choicer, either. I'm just trying to get some numbers inserted in the debate so we know what we're talking about.


17 posted on 09/01/2006 12:50:36 PM PDT by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

And how do they protect themselves from feeling like a sexual spittoon?



Don't get me to lying! I'm guessing since many are pressured into sex, they do it to keep their boyfriends.


18 posted on 09/01/2006 12:56:02 PM PDT by wolfcreek (You can spit in our tacos and you can rape our dogs but, you can't take away our freedom!)
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To: MineralMan

I'm interested: why would the child conceived by incest be an exception? (No to wrangle roughly with you about this, MM, but just to understand your way of thinking.)


19 posted on 09/01/2006 12:57:57 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Abortion: trashing our own.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

My guess is that it might be "awkward" to get permission from the parent who caused the pregnancy.


20 posted on 09/02/2006 7:39:45 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: linda_22003

A lot less awkward than getting permission from the parent that ~didn't~ cause it.


21 posted on 09/02/2006 7:44:10 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Head On. Apply directly to the forehead!)
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To: MineralMan

Rape and incest (combined) account for just over 2% of abortions.

Another 5% are legitimate medical procedures - to save the mother's life.

The rest, 93%, are to for "convenience", to prevent stretch marks and to fund abortion providers.

So, your concern w/r incest is misplaced.


22 posted on 09/02/2006 7:48:25 AM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; MHGinTN
Well, considering schools (and doctors) can't give aspirin to under-age children without a signed permit, how can you justify a major surgical procedure (that results in hundreds of deaths to the mother) every year - without the parent's consent?
23 posted on 09/02/2006 7:51:32 AM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: mrs. a
"Well, I'll be. A minor child needs parental consent before having a surgical procedure. This SHOULD have been a no-brainer from day one. well, better late than never..."

I am in total agreement with you!!!

Who would have thought invasive surgery as serious as abortion could be performed on young children/girls without parental consent, in the first place?????????????

24 posted on 09/02/2006 7:57:48 AM PDT by LadyPilgrim (Sealed my Pardon with HIS BLOOD!!! Hallelujah!!! What a Savior)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I think it's a reasonable expectation that this law will result not only in less abortions, but significantly fewer adolescent pregnancies.

Good point. I would agree. That would be a win for everybody, except the abortionists at Planned Parenthood of course.

25 posted on 09/02/2006 8:16:57 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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Alan Guttmacher: In the year 2000 there were about 539,000 pregnancies and 150,000 abortions for 18-19 year-olds, nationwide. Texas had 9360 abortions amoing 18-19 year-olds in 2000. Abortions for ages up to 17, about 93,000 nationwide and 4500 in Texas.

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/state_pregnancy_trends.pdf

26 posted on 09/02/2006 8:33:33 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: LadyPilgrim

"Who would have thought invasive surgery as serious as abortion could be performed on young children/girls without parental consent, in the first place?????????????" Uh, PP-hood, the feminazis, and nearly the entire leadership of the democrap party ... you see, how many young girls die in this 'procedure' is of no concern to those using the defense of this slaughter as a means to empower their political platform. Democrats are despicable champions of slaughtering the alive unborn as a means to empowerment.


27 posted on 09/02/2006 9:04:21 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN

I was meaning to be rhetorical and exclamatory! ;-)
And it isn't "just the leadership", in the party.

It's the fringes, the edges, the inside/outside, underneath and all the way down to the guts of the dem party. They are rotten and stinking dead, to the core.

They are traitors and NOT patriots. They hate our constitution and our laws.
And they hate the fruit of the womb.

They are against everything Holy and Righteous and God-loving....I best stop now.


28 posted on 09/02/2006 10:44:05 AM PDT by LadyPilgrim (Sealed my Pardon with HIS BLOOD!!! Hallelujah!!! What a Savior)
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To: linda_22003
"My guess is that it might be "awkward" to get permission from the parent who caused the pregnancy."

In cases of incest, it's often the perpetratorwho drags the pregnant girl to the abortion clinic. Many experienced sidewalk-counselors (those who have a number of years' experience) have seen this happen; and post-abortion counselors say the same: it's the incestuous father-of-baby who agressivly insists upon abortion, presumably to eliminate evidence of his crime.

29 posted on 09/02/2006 3:12:40 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Abortion: trashing our own.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

"So, your concern w/r incest is misplaced.
"

Actually, I don't think it is. I'm quite sure that the numbers are low, but every young girl who has to deal with a pregnancy caused by incest is of concern. No, I don't think my concern is misplaced at all. There must be a way to deal with those cases. If there's not, then the courts tend to disapprove of the laws.

Again, is there some sort of judicial override of this?


30 posted on 09/02/2006 3:30:31 PM PDT by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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To: MineralMan
Is there a judicial bypass option in this law?
Monday, June 06, 2005

Texas governor signs abortion bill, endorses same-sex marriage ban
Tom Henry at 8:23 AM ET

[JURIST] Texas Governor Rick Perry [official website] signed a bill Sunday [press release] requiring parental consent to abortions for girls under the age of 18 and tighter restrictions on abortions for women who are more than 26 weeks pregnant. Before a crowd of 1,000 supporters in a high school gym at a Fort Worth evangelical Christian school [school website],

31 posted on 09/02/2006 3:31:05 PM PDT by deport
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To: hinckley buzzard

Thanks for those statistics. I really appreciate your work in finding them. I was unable to.


32 posted on 09/02/2006 3:31:20 PM PDT by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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To: deport
Judicial bypass option is still there......

SECTION 1.42. Section 164.052, Occupations Code,

(19) performs an abortion on an unemancipated minor without the written consent of the child's parent, managing conservator, or legal guardian or without a court order, as provided by Section 33.003 or 33.004, Family Code, authorizing the minor to consent to the abortion, unless the physician concludes that on the basis of the physician's good faith clinical judgment, a condition exists that complicates the medical condition of the pregnant minor and necessitates the immediate abortion of her pregnancy to avert her death or to avoid a serious risk of substantial impairment of a major bodily function and that there is insufficient time to obtain the consent of the child's parent, managing conservator, or legal guardian.


33 posted on 09/02/2006 3:56:17 PM PDT by deport
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