Posted on 09/01/2006 8:22:41 PM PDT by Flavius
Left-wing deputies in Mexico have taken over the stage in Congress, forcing outgoing President Vicente Fox to abandon his final annual address. Before Mr Fox arrived, the legislators, who allege fraud in recent elections, marched onto the main podium where they shouted slogans and sang songs.
Mr Fox will deliver his speech on television from his official residence.
The deputies back Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, who says fraud denied him victory in July presidential elections.
Thousands of his supporters have also been protesting outside Congress.
They have been engaged in a tense stand-off with hundreds of riot police, although the police began to disperse after Mr Fox left Congress after failing to deliver his state-of-the-nation address.
Mr Lopez Obrador's Party of the Democratic Revolution (PRD) accuses Mr Fox of complicity in what it says was massive fraud in the election, giving victory to the candidate of Mr Fox's National Action Party (PAN), Felipe Calderon, a former minister of Mr Fox.
This week the nation's top electoral court threw out those claims.
Congress clash
Earlier some of the 126 PRD deputies said they would try to stop Mr Fox addressing the Congress.
Opposition MPs say Fox's ruling party has committed fraud
Just before the president was due to arrive, dozens of lawmakers stormed the stage, bearing placards and shouting "Vote by vote!" - the slogan used by Mr Lopez Obrador in demands for a full recount of votes cast in the 2 July poll.
Minutes later Mr Fox arrived and - dressed in his presidential sash - waited in the wings of the congressional stage, at one point stepping forward as if about to try to begin speaking.
But despite appeals from Congress officials, the opposition lawmakers would not be moved and eventually Mr Fox handed his written speech in to officials and was driven away.
He is instead due to deliver his address on television from the presidential palace, as had been decided in contingency plans made amid fears of disruption.
The BBC's Duncan Kennedy in Mexico City says some of Mr Lopez Obrador's supporters will claim this is a symbolic victory - but the ruling party will say it shows Mr Lopez Obrador's supporters are out of control.
Tense protests
Meanwhile, outside Congress, hundreds of police are now vacating a highly fortified zone around Congress.
Earlier some protesters threw bricks and bottles at 4m-high steel barricades, but our correspondent says the protests were largely peaceful, if tense.
Mr Lopez Obrador has led a month-long campaign of street demonstrations calling for a recount of all votes in the election.
Lopez Obrador's supporters have occupied the city for a month
But he has said he does not want his movement to turn violent and on Friday urged supporters not to try to march on Congress.
But with legal and constitutional options now closed to him, the risk of confrontation may be higher, our correspondent says.
Mr Lopez Obrador has even threatened to set up a "parallel government" to rule from the streets.
One of his supporters told the Associated Press he was ready to fight for Mr Lopez Obrador "until the death, until the final consequences".
"We lived 500 years of repression, and now we represent the new face of Mexico," said Fernando Calles, a 26-year-old university professor.
The deadline for the top electoral court to declare a president-elect or call fresh elections is 6 September. Rulings thus far have favoured his opponent, Felipe Calderon.
That is pretty bad when mobs rule and lawlessness has taken over right on our borders.
>>26-year-old university professor.
Apparently tenure comes quickly in Mexico.
What a flake. He's probably either born wealthy or at least a member of the non-productive leftist youth of the upper middle class. One of the strangest things about Mexico is the academic class, which is a peculiar combination of underpaid assistants who have no discernable political views, leftist tenured folk from upper middle class backgrounds, and 45 year old undergraduates who have been living on their stipends since they got into school 25 years ago. The only thing we don't have is the latter, but as far as the non-productive leftists, the US academe is stuffed with them.
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Pay close attention people. This is but one of many things that's stirring in the world. Things are turning, and I don't think the end outcome is gonna be pretty.
Anarchy - coming soon to a neighborhood near you.
This is huge news. A speech is just a speech, but this means far more than that in Mexico. They are not that far from anarchy, so we had better pay attention.
The new anti-West Nexus: The Anachronistic Warhorse Communists, the UN, China, Russia, and the Islamists. The weak will fall before them. The strong must defeat them.
So does ignorance.
BLOAT!
Now, I was living in DC in 68. That was scary, and it was brought on by this same Shadow Party crowd active today.
And this is the nation our fearless leaders want to hitch our national security to. Wonderful...
Some of the same madness afflicts the Democratic Party. If they fail to gain er in November, no telling what they may do. Tnaks, Al Gore, You started this.
Lord know if they start a movement in Califonia.
One tenth of their country has already moved to the USA. Fox and NAFTA have left the Mexicans without jobs in their own country.
All Fox did was give them a comic book on how to become an illegal alien in the US. He has been a pathetic president.
We will probably have more illegals moving in as Bush and Fox have neither addressed the problem. Fox hasn't even thought of taxing the elites.
ChiComs at our borders ping
Our leaders know what is best for we simple folks, forgetting that it was we simple folks who put their sorry asses in power in the first place. There is a good reason why God made tar, feathers, pitchforks, and shotguns.
Unprecedented even in Mexican politics for a LONG, LONG time. Perhaps we are on the edge of an incredible political drama, scene 1. Millions more Mexicans will come rushing up here to escape what happens next.
I've been trying to tell people, but they are NOT listening. In the town near where I live, Hispanics wrote in big letters on some public buildings, "México Sí Chavez". So, some are not even waiting until tomorrow.
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It is unprecedented that 1/10 of a country had to leave due to no jobs. Fox and the conservative PAN party has been an utter failure for Mexicans.
The unrest has been brewing for the last 5 or 6 years. If it wasn't Obrador, it would have been someone else. The answer is not migration to another country.
I had to transcribe and then translate the utterings of one anarcist in Oaxaca that a Japanese professor from Nihon University had interviewed. I learned a lot from that work (and $1000 cash), but I realized that southern Mexico is still very socialist because the socialists shore up support from the local indians living down there.
Of course, the leftist side of the Mexican government remains extremely scatterbrained now that PRI can't pay for votes anymore, and the poor don't really understand the other efforts going on. Southern Mexico is a huge liberal pipe dream of organic cofee farming, pit toilets, deindustrialization, and crap.
Is he related to algore or the junior senator from MA?
...and birdshot. We're on the same page.
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It wasn't the leftest party that printed comic books showing Mexicans how to cross our borders into the dessert to become an illegal alien. Mexico and Fox are totally corrupt and I would never take up for the conservative party there.
Those socialist have moved here and will more than likely vote Democrat thanks to the conservatives PAN party.
" That is pretty bad when mobs rule and lawlessness has taken over right on our borders."
Yes, it is!!
All good Mexicans here in the United States should return to their native land immediately and take up arms to join in the revolution.
"Shevardnadze rebuked Soros in mid 2002 for meddling in local politics, Soros warned him bluntly, at a Moscow press conference, that his presidency hung by a thread.
At the conference, Soros floated the idea that Shevardnadze might try to rig Georgia's 2003 elections. Soros vowed that he would 'mobilize civil society' to thwart any vote tampering.
'It is necessary to mobilize civil society in order to assure free and fair elections', Soros said. 'This is what we did in Slovakia at the time of Mecair, in Croatia at the time of Tudjman and in Yugoslavia at the time of Milosevic.'
It appears that Soros made good his threat. 'It was back in February that billionaire financier George Soros began laying the brickwork for the toppling of Georgian President Shevardnadze,' writes Mark MacKinnon in the Nov. 26, 2003 edition of the British newspaper Globe and Mail.
'That month, funds from his Open Society Institute sent a 31-year-old Tbilisi activist named Giga Bokeria to Serbia to meet with members of the Otpor (Resistance) movement and learn how they bused street demonstrations to topple dictator Slobodan Milosevic.'
In the summer, MacKinnon says, Soros brought Otpor activists to Georgia to train 1,000 student activists.
By the time the elections rolled around in Georgia, the plotters were ready. No sooner had Shevardnadze announced his victory than the Soros-controlled television station Rustavi-2 began broadcasting exit polls that contradicted the official vote tally.
Soros filled the streets with protesters led by Serbian-trained activists. Buses brought reinforcements from the countryside, and demonstrators laid siege to the Parliament building, charging vote fraud.
Shevardnadze had little choice. Rather than plunge his country into civil war, he stepped down on Nov. 23."
This is like AlGore 2000 on steroids. Scary.
"In Mexico...500 years of repression."
I think this is referring to the repression of the Indian population by the white/Spanish/elite segment of the Mexican body politic. Years ago when studying in Mexico City, I stayed briefly with an old Mexican family of pure Spanish decent. There were 3 unhappy middle aged spinsters, who spoke scornfully of their youngest sister who had dishonored the family by marrying an "Indio". This Indian was a successful business man, and he and the sister seemed happyly married unlike the racist sisters.
The various Mexican revolutions were generally a reaction to elitist repression. This started when Cortez conquered Mexico in the early 1500's. A very high percentage of the Indian population died from smallpox, measles, etc. and the rest were forcibly converted to Catholicism, their old gods and temples destroyed, and they were forced into slavery or peonage.
Mexico appears closer to civil war than Iraq.
They're just doing the revolution that other Mexicans won't do...
But the difference between Calderon and Obra-Gore is more than 100.000 votes! We know... I't always Bush's fault. /s
"Lopez Obrador's supporters have occupied the city for a month"
A MONTH??? Isn't it way past time for the military to start shooting these #$%@'s if they don't vacate the city immediately? The 126 PRD deputies should be taken out or thrown in jail, also.
Yes, very scary. I'm thinking about just what's going to pour over our borders and stir up inside when Mexico starts shooting it out. Their left is doing everything else outside of pulling the trigger, and that's not very far off IMHO.
What concerns me even more is that our far left is taking notes and making plans based on this. There's a "President Bush assassination" movie being released, and the left has been pushing "voter fraud" fantasies for some 6 years now as if they weren' the one's committing all of the fraud. The Dims in the house and senate have been acting as if they were working under parlimentary rules and calling for "no confidence" votes as if such were actually written as part of the Constitution and not part of their Dim gubmit fantasy-land.
Sometimes the shear scale of what is confronting the continuation of this country as a free nation is frightening.
So yeah, I'm paying attention and praying.
Good thing Jimmy Carter didn't "help out" in Mexico, 'cause Obrador would be president right now. Looks like Hugo Chavez got checked here.
This is the left at its finest. The idea is to destabilize government, cause civil unrest and strife leading to revolution, then step in during the confusion and install a socialist paradise.
Refer to the communist playbook.
It coulda got very ugly in 2000, and it could get very ugly in Mexico soon. Really isn't cool to have a civil war on your border.
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Wow. NAFTA bad for US Jobs. Now NAFTA bas for Mexico Jobs.
Those UAW jobs in Canada must be where EVERYTHING went, eh?
This is one of the most disturbing aspects of this, IMHO. Obrador basically took notes from our left - that is, the Gore activities and the attempts to challenge even substantial margins in the 2004 election, along with a successful overturning of the vote in WA - to stage the current Mexican quasi-coup. The international left feeds off itself, with each local attack providing information and strategy for leftists in other parts of the world. I think things are going to get ugly in the US, particularly since the attacks of the left are combining with the attacks of Islam, with which the left seems to have common cause.
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