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Two Years for One Joint: New Flash Movie Highlights Injustice
http://www.drugpolicy.org ^ | 9 1 06 | The Drug Policy Alliance

Posted on 09/01/2006 10:15:43 PM PDT by freepatriot32

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1 posted on 09/01/2006 10:15:46 PM PDT by freepatriot32
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To: Wolfie

ping


2 posted on 09/01/2006 10:16:01 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: Abram; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Allosaurs_r_us; Americanwolf; Americanwolfsbrother; Annie03; ...
Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here
3 posted on 09/01/2006 10:16:33 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: freepatriot32

I guess that area doesn't like drug sales around schools.


4 posted on 09/01/2006 10:19:02 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: freepatriot32
98 percent of people arrested in "Drug-Free School Zones" weren’t selling drugs to children.

Oh, well then, that certainly makes it OK. Why didn't they just say so?
5 posted on 09/01/2006 10:24:21 PM PDT by Zarro (We Support Governor Rossi)
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To: A CA Guy

I think the main problem with very large "drug free school zones" is the following:

-Drug-Free School Zones (DFSZs) were designed to shove dealers and peddlers away from schools by creating a sentencing disparity between school zones and other zones. Before, when penalties were equal for both zones, dealers could deal anywhere without that kind of disparity. So, we're okay so far.

-But, when you expand DFSZs to the point where they end up covering a large percentage of a city, you again eliminate the disparity. This is because school zones no longer have a sentencing disparity between the schoolgrounds and other areas. Basically, we have upped the overall sentencing penalties, but have also erased the uniqueness of penalties for dealing near schools.

-So, since we erase the difference, dealers have less incentive to avoid schools. After all, if a large amount of land in a city will draw the penalty anyway, may as well "get your money's worth."

So, if we want drug dealers to go out of their way to avoid the areas around schools, we'd need to tighten the definition of school zone, and restore a sentencing disparity.


6 posted on 09/01/2006 10:27:11 PM PDT by seacapn
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To: Zarro
"Mitchell Lawrence received the two-year jail sentence because he was within 1,000 feet of a school"

So the headline is nothing other than a lie of omission.

He was not given 2 years for one joint, but for the applicable conditions of the conviction.

7 posted on 09/01/2006 10:30:33 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: freepatriot32

I'd like to be on the Libertarian Ping List, please.


8 posted on 09/01/2006 10:31:18 PM PDT by HayekRocks
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To: A CA Guy

In this case...Mitch was awful stupid...and I'm betting he won't improve any when he is released after two years. He will be back in jail by age 30.


9 posted on 09/01/2006 10:32:02 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: freepatriot32
The law is an ass!

"The stated goals of current U.S.drug policy -- reducing crime, drug addiction, and juvenile drug use -- have not been achieved, even after nearly four decades of a policy of "war on drugs". This policy, fueled by over a trillion of our tax dollars has had little or no effect on the levels of drug addiction among our fellow citizens, but has instead resulted in a tremendous increase in crime and in the numbers of Americans in our prisons and jails. With 4.6% of the world's population, America today has 22.5% of the worlds prisoners. But, after all that time, after all the destroyed lives and after all the wasted resources, prohibited drugs today are cheaper, stronger, and easier to get than they were thirty-five years ago at the beginning of the so-called "war on drugs"...Law Enforcement Against Prohibition
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10 posted on 09/01/2006 10:33:45 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: freepatriot32

"But Officer, I was only doing 60 mph in a 55 mph zone...Why are you giving me a ticket????"


11 posted on 09/01/2006 10:34:33 PM PDT by Dallas59 (ISLAMOFASCISM!!!!)
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To: Zarro

"Drug-Free School Zones"

I wonder if the sale was made within sight of a sign stating the above. The phrase "within 1000 feet" is a bit vague, does not tell me if he was 999 feet away or standing outside the school doors. Sorry, do the crime do the time. I have no problem at all with drug free zone laws.


12 posted on 09/01/2006 10:46:37 PM PDT by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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To: Dallas59

2 years is not equivalent to a "ticket".
OTOH, he should have known the risk he was taking with his freedom.
OTOH, he was 18 and many 18 year olds are pretty ignorant...


13 posted on 09/01/2006 10:49:55 PM PDT by antceecee (Western countries really aren't up to winning this war on terror... it might offend the terrorists.)
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To: Dallas59
"But Officer, I was only doing 60 mph in a 55 mph zone...Why are you giving me a ticket????"

I was recently in a store. Two women in front of me were trying to buy something on a credit card that had expired last week... "Oh, but that was only a few days ago!" They actually thought the cashier had the ability, willingness, and authority to accept their expired credit card.

It was simply unreal. Unreal.

14 posted on 09/01/2006 10:51:06 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: Dallas59

One more note.
If he was selling Meth I would hang him from the nearest School Flagpole!

(Too many kid's lives are being completely destroyed by meth... pot doesn't worry me as much as the Meth problem does).


15 posted on 09/01/2006 10:52:33 PM PDT by antceecee (Western countries really aren't up to winning this war on terror... it might offend the terrorists.)
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To: freepatriot32
"Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with."

('Atlas Shrugged' 1957)

16 posted on 09/01/2006 11:02:03 PM PDT by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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To: mugs99

Prosecuting America's sons and daughters for drug use ( and alcohol abuse) is a crime in and of itself. Thank goodness they didn't throw everyone in jail for this in the early and mid 20th century. Many young people run wild early in life and then straighten up with the help of concerned family members. We have taken it out of the realm of something the family needs to address and let tne nanny government take care of it. No one comes forward now to help a family member who falls into this life for fear of having to become involved with the legal ramifications. Likewise, seeking help for your loved one may bring a whole slew of gov't agencies ready and willing to screw with your life.
Personal responsibility and families taking care of their own have gone by the wayside in favor of the VILLAGE concept so endorsed by Hillary Clinton. Instead of addressing family problems within the family they are addressed through government agencies, law enforcement and the police. When was the last time an officer took an errant teen or child home for their parents to address a problem I don't see this anymore. Instead they file charges and put the family into the court system.
My Grandparents had it right. We were TAUGHT not to take our grievances or differences to the authorities. We were TAUGHT to work things out in the family.
Sorry for the rant...
I see too many kids that are being thrown away by their parents for the gov't to deal with.... and I see too many in law enforcement who feel a need to make a bust.

The damage? Even if they grow up and move away from abusing alcohol and drugs, they have a record that brands them always.

Of course they could just be illegal aliens doing the same thing and they would be forgiven.

Sorry... just feeling a bit disgusted over things like this.


17 posted on 09/01/2006 11:08:45 PM PDT by antceecee (Western countries really aren't up to winning this war on terror... it might offend the terrorists.)
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To: antceecee
Sorry... just feeling a bit disgusted over things like this

Don't be sorry...Your rant is right on!
Many of us are disgusted over the destruction of the family by the state.
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18 posted on 09/01/2006 11:14:36 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: antceecee

And the people dealing pot are dealing meth or have close connections....


19 posted on 09/01/2006 11:26:22 PM PDT by Dallas59 (ISLAMOFASCISM!!!!)
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To: mugs99

I absolutely agree. I'm sick of the war on drugs and the lives and money it is costing.


20 posted on 09/01/2006 11:44:19 PM PDT by greccogirl
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