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Miller (Brewing) denies financing (Immigration) march
Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel ^ | (/2/2006 | RICK ROMELL

Posted on 09/02/2006 9:36:12 AM PDT by UB355

Miller denies financing march Brewer supports reform, not illegal immigration, it says By RICK ROMELL rromell@journalsentinel.com Posted: Sept. 1, 2006

Miller Brewing Co. on Friday denied providing financial help for a planned march in Chicago supporting illegal immigrants, but a newspaper report of the firm's involvement in a controversial political issue could create marketing headaches for the Milwaukee brewer. Advertisement

The Chicago Tribune reported that Miller had paid more than $30,000 for "a planning convention, materials and newspaper ads" connected to this weekend's "Immigrant Workers Justice Walk."

Not so, Miller spokesman Peter J. Marino said.

"The money supported a recent convention on immigration issues in Chicago, which provided attendees with information on how to become legally naturalized citizens of the U.S.," he said.

Miller isn't sponsoring the march and didn't authorize use of its trademarks in association with the event, Marino said. The Tribune reported that advertisements for the march bear Miller's logo.

The 40-mile walk is to go from Chicago's Chinatown neighborhood to the Batavia, Ill. office of House Speaker Dennis Hastert.

"We are asking him to pay attention to the contributions of undocumented immigrants, and to pass immigration reform that allows for legalization for all; family reunification and civil liberties protection," says the Web site of the Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights, one of the groups organizing the march.

Marino said Miller supports reform of immigration law, but not illegal immigration.

Corporations typically seek to avoid political controversies, but Miller may be forced to dance along a fine line on Latino immigration.

With their numbers in the U.S. growing rapidly and a relatively young population, Latinos are a prime target for brewers. In October 2004, Miller said it planned to spend $100 million over three years on marketing via Spanish-language media, a major increase for the company.

Latinos are "extremely" important to Miller, said Benj Steinman, publisher of Beer Marketer's Insights.

And Miller recently had to deal with a boycott threat from an umbrella group of Midwestern Latino community organizations upset that Miller's political action committee had made $2,000 in campaign contributions to U.S. Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner (R-Wis.), sponsor of an immigration bill the group viewed as too harsh.

The boycott was quickly canceled after the two sides met in Chicago, and Miller agreed to run newspaper ads against the bill and help the group fight it.

Steinman said getting involved in the immigration question was chancy, and pointed to criticism of Miller already appearing Friday on Internet blogs.

"It's just such a controversial issue that when a corporation takes a side, you risk alienating the other side," Steinman said.

But Todd Brachman, an adjunct professor in the business school at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, said Miller wouldn't run a big risk by supporting Latinos on immigration.

With a youthful demographic profile, Latinos, broadly speaking, represent a strong market for brewers, while the opponents on the immigration question mainly are older people "who don't drink as much beer anyway," said Brachman, who worked in marketing at Miller until 1996.

"I seriously doubt that Miller is supporting illegal immigration," Brachman said.

As Miller denied involvement in the Chicago march, meanwhile, the leader of a Milwaukee immigrant-rights group that has held two large marches here said Miller had helped that organization financially.

Marino denied that too.

Christine Neumann-Ortiz, executive director of Voces de la Frontera, said Miller contacted the group earlier this year and offered a donation before a May 1 march. She said the company provided what she believed was a couple hundred dollars used for buses to bring marchers from Racine and Kenosha.

Marino said Miller "did not support the May 1 march or participate in the May 1 march in any way."

Georgia Pabst of the Journal Sentinel staff contributed to this report. From the Sept. 2, 2006 editions of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel Have an opinion on this story? Write a letter to the editor or start an online forum.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: agentofinfluence; aliens; americanquisling; beer; cervezadeloswetbax; denial; enemywithin; friendsofcrimaliens; hispandering; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; miller; millerbeer

1 posted on 09/02/2006 9:36:13 AM PDT by UB355
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To: UB355

Their beer still sucks.


2 posted on 09/02/2006 9:36:37 AM PDT by MarkeyD (The tree of liberty must from time to time be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: UB355

Under pressure?


3 posted on 09/02/2006 9:37:34 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
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To: MarkeyD

Miller is not on my list of beers I want to consume....yuck


4 posted on 09/02/2006 9:40:19 AM PDT by Kimmers
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To: MarkeyD

Try a bottle of Icehouse,

http://www.mylifeisbeer.com/beer/bottles/bottledetail/276/


5 posted on 09/02/2006 9:45:25 AM PDT by UB355 (Slower I(t was greatTraffic Keep Right)
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To: UB355

We'll know for sure once all the illegal alien "voter registration" cards come in. If they have the Miller logo,...


6 posted on 09/02/2006 9:46:36 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (DemocRATS are living proof that "reverse evolution" has begun.)
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To: Kimmers
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7 posted on 09/02/2006 9:46:53 AM PDT by MarkeyD (The tree of liberty must from time to time be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: UB355
I have. Fortunately, I live in microbrew heaven.
See here.
8 posted on 09/02/2006 9:48:57 AM PDT by MarkeyD (The tree of liberty must from time to time be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: UB355
Did Peter J. Marino vote for Kerry before voting against him?

Miller, via Peter, admits to being pro-amnesty and anti Sensenbrenner but denies being pro-illegal?

Boycott Miller Brewing Company (30k to sponsor a pro-illegal-alien march)

9 posted on 09/02/2006 9:49:26 AM PDT by gnarledmaw (I traded freedom for security and all I got were these damned shackles.)
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To: UB355

I would say that I will stop drinking Miller Beer, but I would not drink Miller Beer unless it were the last beer on Earth. If it were the last beer on Earth I would drink it and complain.


10 posted on 09/02/2006 9:55:07 AM PDT by gridlock (The 'Pubbies will pick up at least TWO seats in the Senate and FOUR seats in the House in 2006)
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To: gnarledmaw

The following is the reply that I received from my complaint to Miller Brewing. It sounds like a no/yes answer to me.

Thanks for contacting us.

Miller Brewing Company does not support illegal immigration or any other
unlawful act. We do support a public policy discussion that will lead to a
clear path to legal naturalization for people who meet the requirements for
U.S. citizenship. We also oppose any legislation that would unfairly and
unjustly seek to constrain immigration.

Miller was founded 151 years ago by a German immigrant, Frederick Miller.
And today, we are part of an international company with employees from
around the world. We support the free movement of people, labor, goods and
services in the global economy with appropriate protections for the rights
of individuals and families, the security of nations, and the diversity that
contributes to a rich and productive society.

Miller is active in helping immigrants learn how to become legally
naturalized citizens of the U.S., through programs like the Miller Lite
Immigration Forum in Texas and support for a recent immigration convention
in Chicago. We have a long history of proudly supporting many national and
local Latino organizations throughout the U.S.

We appreciate your interest.




Comments: I will boycot and promote a boycot of your products as long as you
continue to support ILLEGAL ALIENS in this country.You are promoting
violations of our laws.


11 posted on 09/02/2006 10:00:55 AM PDT by A Strict Constructionist
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To: gridlock

Either way this is a very good sign.

If they did sponsor it and now are backing out it shows that they felt the heat.

If they didn't sponsor it and are just pointing that out it shows they felt the heat.

Bottom line is Miller Beer loses by its own stupidity or by just bad (false)reporting by the media.


12 posted on 09/02/2006 10:02:32 AM PDT by BookaT (My cat's breath smells like cat food!)
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To: A Strict Constructionist

Last week I read a story here about the Commie 'RATS making "inroads" into the "NASCAR Dad" voter base. A couple of months ago I read where the theme of the Sony HD 500 in Fontana this weekend was going to be "A Celebration of Hispanics In America." The Miller Lite #2 car is on the pole. If BUSCH comes out to be introduced wearing a sombrero, we'll know the GOP is in trouble.


13 posted on 09/02/2006 10:07:25 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (DemocRATS are living proof that "reverse evolution" has begun.)
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To: BookaT
"If they didn't sponsor it..."

See #11. They admit to being pro-amnesty globotraitors, theyre speaking "Clintonese" for "did it, but wont admit it".

14 posted on 09/02/2006 10:33:16 AM PDT by gnarledmaw (I traded freedom for security and all I got were these damned shackles.)
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To: A Strict Constructionist
"Miller was founded 151 years ago by a (legal)German immigrant, Frederick Miller."

"Miller is active in helping (illegal) immigrants learn how to [gain amnesty], through programs like the Miller Lite Immigration Forum in Texas and support for a recent (illegal) immigration convention in Chicago.

That about sums it up, Im glad theyve admitted it...

Maybe it would be worth it for all of us to let House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) know what we think he should say when they arrive at his office?

15 posted on 09/02/2006 10:47:47 AM PDT by gnarledmaw (I traded freedom for security and all I got were these damned shackles.)
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16 posted on 09/02/2006 10:48:06 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: UB355

At the local liquor stores in central Indiana, Milwaukees Best Light is the best selling beer to illegals. That's a Miller product.


17 posted on 09/02/2006 10:51:22 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: UB355

Miller spokesman Peter J. Marino thinks we're all stupid.


18 posted on 09/02/2006 10:57:23 AM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: UB355
"The money supported a recent convention on immigration issues in Chicago, which provided attendees with information on how to become legally naturalized citizens of the U.S.," he said.

That's enough for me. Screw You, Miller.

19 posted on 09/02/2006 11:07:03 AM PDT by rvoitier (Democrat Party, not Democratic Party.)
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To: UB355

No more MGD for me. Not that I've had one in a couple years. Depending on the season, my taste buds favor Guinness (on tap), Bitburger Pils, Shiner Bock, or Heineken.


20 posted on 09/02/2006 11:08:57 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Closing in on 3000 posts, of which maybe 50 were worthwhile!)
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To: philetus
Miller spokesman Peter J. Marino thinks we're all stupid.
Well, he is in the business of selling piss-water to morons...
21 posted on 09/02/2006 11:09:49 AM PDT by frankenMonkey (new tagline under construction)
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To: UB355
"undocumented immigrants, and to pass immigration reform that allows for legalization for all; family reunification and civil liberties protection"

Illegal jihadis want this, too. I'm sure there are plenty of them out there, letting mexicans do the demonstrating they don't want to do. No amnesty!

22 posted on 09/02/2006 11:17:41 AM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: frankenMonkey
True. Do these dopes think Mexican beer drinkers will push aside Corona , Bohemia Or Dos Equis for their swill ?
23 posted on 09/02/2006 11:29:14 AM PDT by fantom
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To: UB355

I've been drinking High Life for decades. (Yes, you beer afficiandos can make your wisecracks about it being 'donkey piss', etc, but I just think it's a good, cheap, old-fashioned beer.) No more for me.


24 posted on 09/02/2006 11:31:36 AM PDT by x1stcav (I always thought he was a Murthaf*cker.)
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To: gnarledmaw
"Miller is active in helping (illegal) immigrants learn how to [gain amnesty], through programs like the Miller Lite Immigration Forum in Texas and support for a recent (illegal) immigration convention in Chicago.

Excellent clarification.

An immigration convention? It's a 3rd world mob rioting in the steets, demanding the rights of citizens for criminal invaders. And they dare to call it a 'convention'? That's going way beyond being PC. That's like calling Dachau a refugee camp or a boys camp.
25 posted on 09/02/2006 11:32:25 AM PDT by CottonBall
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To: bmwcyle

Miller sounds like a company that heard rumours of a boycott...
and took them seriously!


26 posted on 09/02/2006 11:36:26 AM PDT by VOA
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To: UB355
Miller spokesman Peter J. Marino

Don't worry Peter, you got the message from Bubba:
"All you've got to do is deny!"

and the boycott born of your support of groups that DO support illegal
immigration will just go away like a bad financial nightmare.

I don't think so! You mendacious, term-parsing fink!
27 posted on 09/02/2006 11:40:21 AM PDT by VOA
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To: VOA

Who says the FR has no power?


28 posted on 09/02/2006 11:40:22 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
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To: bmwcyle
Who says the FR has no power?

Marino thought he'd avoided a boycott...by the illegal immigrant groups.

Only to have e-mails let him know that he'd ticked LEGAL RESIDENTS
of the country.

My message to Marino:
"This is 'a time for choosing'. You pacified the supporters of illegal
immigrants. And now opened an even bigger hornets nest by offending
LEGAL RESIDENTS and citizens.
Too bad, you've lost credibility with both sides.
Just at a time when there are a LOT of independent brewers.
How sad, you perfidious weasel."
29 posted on 09/02/2006 11:46:11 AM PDT by VOA
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To: VOA

I just told him it was goodbye. I think we should continue for 6 months just to let him know how bad it can get.


30 posted on 09/02/2006 11:48:18 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
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To: Kimmers
Fortunately I drank Red Dog ($14 for a 30 pack) and I don't mind giving it up. Yuengling Premium also fits my budget and tastes better.
31 posted on 09/02/2006 11:51:06 AM PDT by stevio (Red-Blooded Crunchy Con American Male (NRA))
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To: bmwcyle

I don't recommend anything illegal...(and I'm not a beer drinker).

But people that do ditch Miller over this should just send an e-mail (example
below) to Miller each time they buy some beer.

From: Miller Boycotter
To: Miller e-mail box

Dear Finance Department and Stockholders of Miller,
Just sending in a bit of marketing information, gratis.
I bought two six-packs of (Other-than-Miller) beer today for $X.XX.
That is less than the $Z.ZZ I spent on Miller products before you started
supporting those that support illegal immigration.
But now my expenditure on Miller Products is $0.00.

Oh, and I told two friends about your appeasement of groups supporting
illegal immigration.

Have a nice day,
A Citizen of The USA


32 posted on 09/02/2006 11:55:36 AM PDT by VOA
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To: stevio

I wish we could get Yuengling here in Indy.....whenever I go east I always drink that....it is a great beer


33 posted on 09/02/2006 11:57:23 AM PDT by Kimmers
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To: UB355

A 40 mile march is a good start...how far to the border?


34 posted on 09/02/2006 12:03:24 PM PDT by abovethefray
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To: UB355

I do not believe Miller Brewing Company. The Chicago Tribune is is your typical MSM whore. And although the MSM is better at fiction than fact, in this case, I doubt the Tribune Company which is much bigger than the rag, would alienate a business which cannot survive without throwing out big advertising bucks. If I were Miller Brewing and the Tribune printed something totally untrue, I would show some outrage and start threatening the Tribune for a retraction. It has the advertising dollar power to force a retraction if the story was untrue. Miller Time has become traitor time.


35 posted on 09/02/2006 12:06:13 PM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: VOA

Sounds like a good idea. It is so easy for these companies to cave in.


36 posted on 09/02/2006 12:12:21 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
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To: A Strict Constructionist

I got the same form response to my complaint letter, which I wrote after seeing the Tribune link on Michelle Malkin's site.

My response: BWAHAHAHAHA!!

What unadultered horse cr@p. Just like their beer. I thank Miller for making the choice of beer I buy so damn easy. Can you say Sam Adams, Shiner Bock and Budweiser?


37 posted on 09/02/2006 12:19:37 PM PDT by Bulldaddy (www.constructionlawblog.net)
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To: philetus
Miller spokesman Peter J. Marino thinks we're all stupid.

So does George Bush and Mike Pence and other inside the beltway hacks I like GW but not on illegal immigration and his shamnesty

38 posted on 09/02/2006 12:19:40 PM PDT by dennisw (Confucius say man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok)
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To: UB355
Miller Brewery brands:

Miller Genuine Draft
Miller Genuine Draft Light
Miller High Life
Miller High Life Light
Miller Lite
Sharp's non-alcohol brew
Red Dog
Icehouse 5.0
Icehouse 5.5
Icehouse Light
Southpaw Light
Leinenkugel's Original
Leinenkugel's Light
Leinenkugel's Red Lager
Leinenkugel's Honey Weiss
Leinenkugel's Apple Spice (seasonal)
Leinenkugel's Berry Weiss
Leinenkugel's Oktoberfest (seasonal)
Leinenkugel's Creamy Dark
Leinenkugel's Big Butt Doppelbock (seasonal)
Leinenkugel's Sunset Wheat
Henry Weinhard's Private Reserve
Henry Weinhard's Blue Boar Pale Ale
Henry Weinhard's Classic Dark
Henry Weinhard's Northwest Trail Blonde Lager
Henry Weinhard's Hefeweizen
Henry Weinhard's Summer Wheat
Hamm's
Hamm's Draft
Hamm's Special Light
Olde English 800 Malt Liquor
Olde English HG800
Olde English HG800 7.5
Magnum Malt Liquor
Mickey's Malt Liquor
Mickey's Ice
Milwaukee's Best
Milwaukee's Best Light
Milwaukee's Best Ice
Foster's Lager
Foster's Special Bitter
Peroni Nastro Azzurro
Pilsner Urquell
Sheaf Stout

Source Beerpedia

39 posted on 09/02/2006 1:11:06 PM PDT by LNewman
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To: gubamyster

First they're dropping their spomsorship of Don "The Snake" Prudohmme and driver Larry Dixon and now this...my purchasing of any of their products is over.


40 posted on 09/02/2006 1:46:59 PM PDT by FlashBack (W)
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To: gubamyster

First they're dropping their sponsorship of Don "The Snake" Prudohmme and driver Larry Dixon and now this...my purchasing of any of their products is over.


41 posted on 09/02/2006 1:47:09 PM PDT by FlashBack (W)
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To: UB355

Hew Miller, this salute's to YOU.

AMERICANS should be important to Miller not any ethnic community.

Besides, my guess is they buy Dos Equis anyway which is probably a better brew than that insipid trash Miller distills anyway.


42 posted on 09/02/2006 7:52:52 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: UB355

Backing down or no, I will not knowingly buy Miller products for years and years. Screw them. (Barring some yet-to-be-made apology that yes, they blew it big time.)


43 posted on 09/02/2006 9:49:07 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: UB355
Marino said Miller supports reform of immigration law, but not illegal immigration.

Out of the other side of his mouth he tells us that Miller supports legalization of illegal aliens, and family reunification for illegal aliens' families (56 million over the next decade?)...Just like what GWBush and his open borders cronies want.

Oh gosh, I forgot, that's what "comprehensive" means now in Bushspeak.

No thanks, Miller., no thanks GWB.

44 posted on 09/03/2006 9:58:04 AM PDT by janetgreen (History names GWBush as first American President who allowed massive invasion from third world dump)
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To: gubamyster
And Miller recently had to deal with a boycott threat from an umbrella group of Midwestern Latino community organizations upset that Miller's political action committee had made $2,000 in campaign contributions to U.S. Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner (R-Wis.), sponsor of an immigration bill the group viewed as too harsh.

The boycott was quickly canceled after the two sides met in Chicago, and Miller agreed to run newspaper ads against the bill and help the group fight it.

This says it all for me. If you fight against a bill to stop illegals, you're for them.

45 posted on 09/04/2006 6:33:58 AM PDT by Razz Barry
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To: fantom

"True. Do these dopes think Mexican beer drinkers will push aside Corona , Bohemia Or Dos Equis for their swill ?"

Every bar I have been in for the last ten years, every Mexican I see is drinking miller lite.
My Mexican neighbors throw miller lite empties in the ditch in front of my place, (and trash).


46 posted on 09/04/2006 7:17:16 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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