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A Summary of the Videotaped Rants by Adam Gadahan (Jihadi Traitor)
myself | 9/2/2006 | Pyro7480

Posted on 09/02/2006 6:21:19 PM PDT by Pyro7480

This is an expansion on debg's summary of Adam Gadahn's Al Qaeda videotape, available for download at http://www.lauramansfield.com/j/nnnnmn-1.rm.

debg: He spent a long time saying we are ignorant

Gadahn did indeed spend a long time calling us "ignorant."

After Zawahiri's introduction, he also accused us of "rapturously applause" when Israel wages war, of assenting to our governments' "atrocities in Afghanistan, Iraq, and elsewhere in the Muslim world." He also accuses us of "voicing our approval" of the so-called desecration of the Koran at Gitmo, and of our "yellow press and tele-evangelists insulting the 'Prophet' Muhammad [piss be upon him - my comment]."

We apparently have a "seething animosity" paired with our "ignorance" towards their religion. He recounts a supposed incident where he was making the proscribed Mohammadan prayer in a suburban shopping center parking lot, and a man sped by in his SUV, shouting "Worship Jesus, your Lord." He immediately afterwards brings up the term "gas guzzler."

He describes our "ignorance" as "willful," comparing it to the "ignorance" of a contemporary of Muhammad. He accuses Western civilization for making "arrogant claims," since it supposedly describes itself as "the most knowledgeable in the history of the world" and has "uncovered the secrets of the heavens and earth." Gadahn then gives a list of supposed atrocities of Western Civilization. The first one, of course, was the Crusades, followed by the Inquisition and "countless unholy bloodbaths." He also mentions "lynch laws," Jim Crowe, and accuses us of having a "death row where only convicts of certain races are sent."

Western civilization also supposedly introduced the concentration camp; enslaved Africa; slaughtered Native Americans; "firebombed Dresden, Tokyo, and Fallujah; nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki;" "facilitated the creation of the state of Israel over the dead bodies of the Muslims;" and uphold a supposed holy book (the Bible) that contains passages that support the slaughter of innocents during the time of war.

According to Gadahn, because of all these atrocities, the people of the West cannot accuse his religion of "barbarity and brutality." He criticizes the practice of removing public officials for "anti-Semitism," an "unforgivable sin" which is apparently acceptable to him and his companions. He also criticizes the fact that flag burning is an issue in politics.

The West apparently "embraces without hesitation every obscure and foreign religion, philosophy, and ideology" and think that "Islam is an exclusively Arab religion." In Gadahn's view, Christianity, whose most important "prophet" is Jesus, apparently forbade the preaching of the Gospel to the Gentiles and Samaritans, giving the impression that Jesus never ordered His apostles to preach the Gospel to the ends of the earth. He even has the gall to quote the Gospels to support his argument. Christians are apparently "ignorant" of their own religion!

Christian and Western political leaders in the West are also partly to blame for the "ignorance" apparently rampant here. He says that they "blur the picture of Islam in minds and eyes of their flocks in order to better facilitate their control and domination" of the people in the West, using "scare tactics" and "terrorizing... with the bogey[man] of Islam." This is done also to "avoid having to face difficult questions about the West's dark and bloody past and equally dark and bloody present."

Up until that last point, Gadahn's tone is that of an arrogant elite, who supposedly knows the truth about the West, and berating the ignorant masses here. He then states that he knows that there are those in the West who will "respond positively upon hearing the truth," and extends to them a "heartfelt invitation" to his religion. He then makes his case for Islam, using the long-used propaganda of that religion, such as "the fact" that the holy men mentioned in the Bible, from Adam to Jesus, were Muslims. Judaism is supposedly "a tribal religion concocted by the priests and rabbis of Israel." He also states that "a pagan trinatarianism [was] introduced into the religion of the Messiah [Christianity] by the Church Fathers, and imposed by the force of the Roman state."

Followers of his religion reject "every false god, whether it be a rock, or a human being, or a government, with its polytheistic constitution, courts, and laws; or an international organization, like the United Nations, with its international laws, tribunals, and treaties of unbelief; and its Security Council whose resolutions never fail to side with the Zionist Crusader fascists."

After Gadahn makes this statement of rejection, he spends the rest of his time pushing his religion and arguing in favor of it. During this part of the presentation, he warns the West to not "attempt to spread your [the West's] misery and misguidance to our [Islamic] lands." Muslims, he says, "don't need democracy to rid themselves of their home-grown despots and tyrants. What they [the Muslims] do need their Islamic faith, the spirit of jihad, and the lifting of foreign troops and interference from their necks. They "certainly have no need for what is known as Christianity, that hollow shell of a religion, whose followers cling to an empty faith."

The tenets of Christianity that Gadahn describes as being "Pauline" are "the most unbelievable, untenable, and illogical" component of the religion. He condemns these tenets, such as the notion that the Bible, which is supposedly full of "contradictions, errors, deletions, and outright fabrications," is the "infallible revealed Word of God;" original sin; the "non-biblical" belief in the Trinity. He also condemns the belief in the Incarnation, and the atoning Sacrifice of the Cross.

After a few more rants, Gadahan talks about "the Zionist Crusader, missionaries of hate, and counter-Islam consultants like Daniel Pipes, Robert Spencer, Michael Shore (spelling?), and even that Crusader-in-Chief, George W. Bush," and states that if they "abandoned their unbelief and repent, and "enter into the light of Islam," they would be his "brothers in Islam."

Along with these notables, the "foot soldiers of the Crusade, and those who have no active part in the War Against Islam, other than paying the taxes which fund the Crusader War Machine, are "like pre-programmed machines, or laboratory animals," "the real victims" who have been mislead by "con-men and women" who are the "school teachers, pastors, and politicians" in the West.

Gadahn then appeals again to his audience, that "if you want to be on the winning side in this life and in the next, and if you want your resistance to Crusader tyranny to truly count," then they must convert to Islam. He makes a particular appeal to members of the U.S. military, saying that "the war can't be won, the condition of America's war machine is going from bad to worse," and that they are considered to be "expendable cannon fodder" by Bush and his administration. He calls for investigative journalists to reveal the "cover up" of the mass casualties going on in Iraq and Afghanistan. He even pronounces "Genghis Khan" like Senator John Kerry.

Towards the end of the video, Gadahn reports that he was delighted to hear of the supposed conversion of U.S. soldiers to Islam by their jihadi prisoners at "American concentrations camps which blacken the globe." He calls on them to be "role models for their comrades," and advises them to "make their escape from the oppressor armies" before they are persecuted for rejecting "American terrorism and Crusader values." He also calls on people like George Galloway and Robert Fisk, who supposedly "respect Islam" to "stop sitting on the fence" and convert to Islam.

While Gadahn recognizes the killing of non-Muslims done by his Al-Qaeda comrades, he rejects any allegation that message represents a "change of tone," from their terrorist ways, that "their message has not changed," and that "the Mujahadeen have always been the first to call to Islam." He "thank[s] God every day for guiding him to Islam" and away from the "debt, debauchery, and doubt they call the American dream." He ends his presentation with a line of praise for Allah and Muhammad in Arabic.


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I have no doubt that there will be at least one fool in the West that will be convinced by Gadahn's presentation, and submits to the false religion of Mohammad. It is no surprise that many of his talking points and rhetoric are the talking points and rhetoric of the Left. The Left and Islam both work for the destruction of Western Civilization.
1 posted on 09/02/2006 6:21:21 PM PDT by Pyro7480
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To: oyez; Dajjal; Convert from ECUSA; Maeve; NYer; murphE; nwrep; Biggirl

Ping!


2 posted on 09/02/2006 6:22:46 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: Admin Moderator

I saw that the topics for this thread were reduced to "Your Opinion/Questions." It is more than that, but a summary of the Adam Gadahn podcast (if you want to call it that). Therefore, I have put it into extended news, foreign affairs, and war on terror topics. If you feel this should be the case, just removed the extended topic.


3 posted on 09/02/2006 6:26:35 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: Pyro7480

I've tried having a conversation with a liberal about it but she apprently hasn't recieved her talking points yet. All she would say is "War is never the answer".


4 posted on 09/02/2006 6:29:16 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: Pyro7480

Good summary thank you.


5 posted on 09/02/2006 6:30:38 PM PDT by Hound of the Baskervilles (A)
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To: Pyro7480
A bunch of Democratic talking points. Come to think of it, its time the Democrats convert to Islam.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

6 posted on 09/02/2006 6:36:37 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
That's exactly what Gadahn says! He also calls on people like George Galloway and Robert Fisk, who supposedly "respect Islam" to "stop sitting on the fence" and convert to Islam.
7 posted on 09/02/2006 6:41:04 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: Coleus; wagglebee

Ping!


8 posted on 09/02/2006 6:41:43 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: goldstategop
Come to think of it, its time the Democrats convert to Islam.

Apparently they're going to have to because they sure don't intend to fight. The only other option for them is to allow themselves to be slaughtered.
9 posted on 09/02/2006 6:41:49 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: cripplecreek
I've tried having a conversation with a liberal about it but she apprently hasn't recieved her talking points yet. All she would say is "War is never the answer".


10 posted on 09/02/2006 6:41:56 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: goldstategop
They're just waiting for their crate of machetes and burkas to arrive.
11 posted on 09/02/2006 6:42:49 PM PDT by top 2 toe red (To the enemy in Iraq..."Don't bet on American politics forcing my hand!" President Bush)
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To: Pyro7480
From the pages of Vivificat!: Californian Adam Gadahn, wearing a white robe and turban, introduces the message by calling on Westerners to convert

Folks, according to CNN and numerous others news outlets:

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (CNN) -- A new videotape has surfaced featuring Osama bin Laden's second-in-command, Ayman al-Zawahiri, and an American member of al Qaeda wanted by the FBI, according to a counterterrorism expert.

The tape, called "Invitation to Islam," runs 48 minutes, expert Laura Mansfield said. Al-Zawahiri speaks for about 4 minutes on the tape, and the American narrates the rest.

Californian Adam Gadahn, wearing a white robe and turban, introduces the message by calling on Westerners to convert. (Watch Gadahn accuse President Bush of not caring about U.S. troops -- 5:42)

Gadahn says that even Americans working with President Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair are invited to embrace Islam, but they should hurry.

"We invite all Americans and believers to Islam, whatever their role and status in Bush and Blair's world order," Gadahn says. "Decide today, because today could be your last day."

Read the entire story here.

Here's my answer:

NO WAY

In no way will I turn into a person so UGLY, inside and outside, filled with murderous hatred against others and then, pompously declaring to believe in "God." Keep your beliefs, your faith, your fatwas, your jihad--and that little wagging finger--and instead, look into your heart and if there's any love left, convert to Christ. He will change you, renew you, and remake you into a new person and will excise the humiliation and the murderous hatred that fills your heart.

Do so soon, because He may you call you to His presence any time now, and not necessarily through my doing or through the doing of the earthly might of the United States of America.

Although I wouldn't disregard that possibility either, since God acts in mysterious ways.

12 posted on 09/02/2006 6:45:35 PM PDT by Teˇfilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
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To: Teˇfilo

I'm glad you saw this thread, Teófilo. :-)


13 posted on 09/02/2006 6:47:17 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: Teˇfilo
I wouldn't dishonor my father by even contemplating it. He didn't convert and neither will I. I will happily die for my faith in God and they will force Islam upon me only over my dead body. We in the West too - can be martyrs for our faith.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

14 posted on 09/02/2006 6:50:42 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
wouldn't dishonor my father by even contemplating it. He didn't convert and neither will I.

Was your father from that part of the world?

15 posted on 09/02/2006 6:52:47 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: Teˇfilo

America to Gadahn:

NUTS


16 posted on 09/02/2006 6:55:41 PM PDT by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: Pyro7480
No. But I don't like threats of coercion in matters of conscience. Gadahn and the Al Qaeda mass murderers can take their pitch and stuff it where the sun don't shine.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

17 posted on 09/02/2006 6:56:06 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: mewzilla

I think this one makes liberals a little nervous. He didn't leave a whole lot of room for interpetation. Convert or we will kill you is pretty straight forward.


18 posted on 09/02/2006 6:56:31 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: Bosco

19 posted on 09/02/2006 6:57:12 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: Bosco
EXCELLENT! That confounded the Germans at Bastogne. Its an equally fitting reply to Al Qaeda's terrorist leadership. WE WILL NEVER SURRENDER!

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

20 posted on 09/02/2006 6:57:18 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Pyro7480

California is becoming famous (infamous) for breeding these idiots.


21 posted on 09/02/2006 6:58:06 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Father of an American Soldier)
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To: Pyro7480

Say what you will about traitor Gadahan, but don't question his patriotism.


22 posted on 09/02/2006 7:06:52 PM PDT by BadAndy ("Loud mouth internet Rambo")
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To: BadAndy

LOL!


23 posted on 09/02/2006 7:09:36 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: Pyro7480

BTTT


24 posted on 09/02/2006 7:32:07 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: Pyro7480
Here's an interesting passage...
34:00 - If the Zionist crusader missionaries of hate, and counter-Islam consultants like Daniel Pipes, Robert Spencer, Michael Schuur, Steven Emerson and, yes, even the Crusader in Chief, George W. Bush, were to abandon their unbelief, and repent, and enter into the life of Islam, and turn their swords against the enemies of God, it would be accepted of them, and they would be our brothers in Islam. For them, what is for us, and upon them, what is upon us.

And even if the repentence of high-ranking enemies of Islam is valid and acceptable, then it needed to be said, that the same goes for the footsoldiers of the Crusade, and those who have no active part in the war against Islam, other than paying the taxes that fund the Crusader war machine, and like pre-programmed machines, or labratary[sic] animals, living the lifestyle laid out for them, and believing the myths imparted to them by their schoolteachers, pastors, and politicians. They are the real victims: Tranquilized inhabitants of the human farms which these con-men and women control. As our brother, Matthew Stewart [Stuart?], may God protect him, aptly described them.

So, who's this Matthew Stewart or Stuart guy?
25 posted on 09/02/2006 8:04:50 PM PDT by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING NOW: your mind)
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To: jennyp

Where did you get that transcript??


26 posted on 09/02/2006 8:05:31 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: jennyp
A passage which I guess is directed to me and my kind...
44:42 - I have tasted the darkness and ignorance of unbelief, and disobedience to my Creator... as well as the light and perception afforded by true faith in God, and obedience to him. And I assure you that there is no comparison. And that despite - or rather because of - the atmosphere of battle in which we live, and the continuing conflict with the forces of the crusaders and their hired hands, I thank God every day for guiding me to Islam. And guiding me to join its victorious army. Inshallah. For were it not for His grace, I could very easily have been one of those unfortunate souls, fighting the losing battle for the other side. Or blindly leading de life of debt, debauchery and doubt they call "the American dream." Ahendneiallahacumadinadadialoulahahdananoah. All praise is due to God who guided us to this, and had God not guided us we would not have been guided.

I have discovered that true happiness is to be found in obedience to God's orders and prohibitions, and in the following of His prophet, peace be upon him. And not in western-style hedonism and immorality or amorality. Nor in eastern-style monasticism or cultist-like withdrawal from the world.

And I can state with a confidence born out of experience, and observation, that as long as a person persists in unbelief and atheism, his or her pursuit of happiness will be exactly that: a pursuit. A never-ending search which is guaranteed to bring him misery. If not in this life, then in the next.

By that, I mean to say that even if he does happen upon some degree of happiness today, it is guaranteed to be short-lived, ending at his death. And you don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out that eternal happiness is better than the fleeting delights of this world.


27 posted on 09/02/2006 8:33:31 PM PDT by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING NOW: your mind)
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To: Pyro7480

I typed it in from the video. (And no, I'm NOT transcribing the whole thing! :-)


28 posted on 09/02/2006 8:34:43 PM PDT by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING NOW: your mind)
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To: jennyp

Oh, you're a sweetie. Thanks jenny! :-)


29 posted on 09/02/2006 8:36:23 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: jennyp
One thing I gotta say after watching the whole lecture: If al Qaeda thinks this kid is going to be some kind of effective interpreter for Americans of Islam because he knows American idioms like "do not pass Go" or "you don't have to be a rocket scientist", they're sadly mistaken.

This twentysomething kid is way too wrapped up in his conversion to his new cult to be able to step out of that mindset long enough to relate to Americans in a way that will convince anyone except a few disturbed individuals like himself. (Of course, if he did step out of his zealous-convert mindset, he might see what a fool he's made of himself, so he won't do that any time soon.)

I especially love his obsessive habit of slipping into Arabic chanting in the middle of trying to bond with an American audience.

30 posted on 09/02/2006 8:41:01 PM PDT by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING NOW: your mind)
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To: jennyp
You don't have to be a rocket scientist to throw a curve ball out there, let me be the first to suggest that Azzam Shabazz Bazzmaster has to be the US mole in al Qaeda. No one else would be purposefully so weird and descructive to his own case. I've got it! He's Rovian plant in al Qaeda, sent in to repeat Democrat Talking Points just in time for the election. He passed them onto Bin Laden in '04, now in 'o6, shazzam it's Azzam!

Karl Rove, you are one brilliant, magnificient b*st*ard.

31 posted on 09/02/2006 9:33:22 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Jabba the Hutt's bigger, meaner, uglier brother.)
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To: jennyp

Goat boy, take your devil god and the disjointed babblings of your child-molesting prophet and put them where the sun refuses to shine.


32 posted on 09/02/2006 9:33:33 PM PDT by attiladhun2 (Islam is a despotism so vile that it would warm the heart of Orwell's Big Brother)
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To: jennyp
I found out who Matthew Stewart is/was:

From Australians 'turned to al-Qaeda'

Australian papers have identified the man, who was dressed in combat gear, as former soldier Matthew Stewart.

33 posted on 09/02/2006 9:43:03 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: jennyp
Here's another:

From Probe fails to uphold terror allegations

A year ago, a purported friend of his said he recognised Mr Stewart's voice after a man wearing a balaclava appeared in an al-Qaeda video calling for a holy war.

But an investigation by ASIO, the AFP and other security agencies using advanced voice analysis technology has failed to substantiate the allegations against Mr Stewart, Fairfax newspapers reported today.

34 posted on 09/02/2006 9:45:49 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: Pyro7480
Hmmm... very curious. It's strange, if Stewart has joined al Qaeda, that Gadahn would refer to him by his Christian name, as if he hasn't taken a Muslim nom de guerre.
35 posted on 09/02/2006 10:25:51 PM PDT by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING NOW: your mind)
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To: jennyp

Well, this most recent video has the speaker captioned as Adam Gadahn as well. It is very curious. I wonder if Stewart is even still alive.


36 posted on 09/02/2006 10:35:48 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: Pyro7480


Someone needs to put together a list that debunks this noise, point by point.

The problem I see...it's really easy to say "America gave Saddam Bio Weapons" and it takes documentable and footnoted citations to show that the statement is BS.


37 posted on 09/02/2006 10:42:41 PM PDT by Malsua
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To: goldstategop

I will never convert, I am willing to die for the Lord.

The Muslims are simply losing a war against a much more growing Christian faith.


38 posted on 09/03/2006 12:36:05 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation.)
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To: Pyro7480

What you are seeing is the begining of the end of Islam because it cannot win against a growing Christian faith.


39 posted on 09/03/2006 12:43:55 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation.)
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To: Pyro7480

May the true God have mercy on these men because they are foolish.


40 posted on 09/03/2006 12:49:15 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation.)
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To: Pyro7480

Excellent summary!


41 posted on 09/03/2006 11:00:20 AM PDT by debg
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To: Pyro7480; goldstategop

Adam Gadahn can go kindly kiss my Dixie tailpipe. I'd rather be put to death than to ever, ever, ever convert to mohammedanism.


42 posted on 09/05/2006 5:22:02 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Mid East Ceasefire = Israel ceases but her enemies fire)
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