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No vigilantes ; LULAC protesters speak out against Minutemens scheduled arrival in Laredo
LAREDO MORNING TIMES ^ | 09/03/2006 | CELINA ALVARADO

Posted on 09/03/2006 6:48:44 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch

Minuteman Project protesters composed of members of LULAC District 14 and others stood by Gen. Ignacio Zaragozas bronze statue a symbol of Mexican liberation on Saturday at San Agustin Plaza and held a forum on keeping immigration enforcement in the hands of the U.S. Border Patrol and not those of "vigilantes."Protesters said they opposed the coming of the Minutemen, a nationally organized group whose goal is to stop illegal immigration at the U.S. borders. The group is expected to set up shop in Laredo and Webb County from Sept. 11 to Nov. 7.

"We think it is wrong to allow unqualified people to survey the border area," said Frank Gonzalez Jr., first vice president of LULAC Council No. 12. "We have adequate manpower with Border Patrol and the military as it is. … We dont need any John Waynes down here."

Gonzalez said he was suspicious of the outsiders because they are so determined to come despite the fact that they are not welcome here.

"We dont know if they have other intentions," Gonzalez said. "Who knows who infiltrates their unit."

He said LULAC members fear the nationally organized group will bring with them racist views and will harass non-Americans: "Not all Mexicans are here illegally and we have a lot of legal immigrants that work down here."

Fernanda Perez, a Mexican citizen with a legal work visa, was among the estimated 15 people who gathered at San Agustin Plaza to hear the protest and quietly rallied in support.

"These strangers dont want us here," Perez said in her native Spanish. "They dont want Mexicans. They are not going to stop and check whether we are here legally."

Perez added that she feared harassment and what the strangers might do.

Meanwhile, LULAC members continued to rally against the Minutemen and distributed flyers in support of immigration.

LULAC Council No. 624 members called the current immigration system "broken" and said it needs to be changed.

"Our current immigration system is outdated and does not serve our economic interests, nor does it serve the interests of families who want to reunite because of narrowly defined eligibility categories," read one LULAC flyer.

"The three year, ten year and permanent bars to admission make most undocumented immigrants ineligible to get permanent immigration visas," the document said, quoting a passage from the American Immigration Lawyers Association.

LULAC members also sent out flyers addressing allegations that America is being overrun by immigrants.

"The annual rate of legal immigration is low by historical measures," they said, also quoting the American Immigration Lawyers Association. "The number of immigrants living in the United States remains relatively small as a percentage of the total population."

Protesters went on to say that their opposing stance against the Minutemen does not make them militant or radical, but rather concerned with the idea of unqualified groups taking the law into their own hands.

"Homeland Security is best left in the hands of local, state and federal law enforcement officers, and (LULAC District 14) supports the law enforcement agencies who are doing this job," they said in a written statement distributed Saturday.

Vicente Hernandez, another Mexican citizen with a legal work visa, quietly watched the rally from afar and said he had mixed feelings about Saturdays event.

"People who want us out make us feel like animals," he said. "We are not here to take anybodys job or to commit crimes. We are just here to make a living. This is our only escape from a country that is drug-ridden, lawless, poor and 100 percent corrupt."

Hernandez said that though he disapproves of strangers invading the area to kick Mexicans out, he nonetheless feels that something must be done to stop those people that come here illegally with bad intentions.

(Celina Alvarado may be reached at (956) 728-2566 or by e-mail at celina@lmtonline.com)


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Texas; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; laredo; lulac; minuteman; minutemen; texasminuteman; wot
Vigilantes means watchmen in Spanish, LULUAC!
1 posted on 09/03/2006 6:48:46 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch
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To: SwinneySwitch

unqualified people

Ohhh, you mean CITIZENS OF OUR COUNTRY???!!!!!


2 posted on 09/03/2006 6:50:51 AM PDT by Shimmer128 (Deja moo: The feeling you've heard this bull before)
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To: hispanarepublicana; radar101; RamingtonStall; engrpat; HamiltonFan; Draco; TexasCajun; ...

LULULAC Ping!


3 posted on 09/03/2006 6:53:31 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Terroristas-beyond your expectations!!)
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To: SwinneySwitch

My, my, my. The Minutemen sure to have the wetbacks' knickers in a knot, don't they.


4 posted on 09/03/2006 6:55:55 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: SwinneySwitch

What are the Knights of Columbus or the Rotarians doing this week? Who knows? They are always just helping people. But let cindy sheehan or these #14's assemble ten people and we have to hear their baseless whining.


5 posted on 09/03/2006 6:58:46 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Fernanda Perez, a Mexican citizen with a legal work visa, was among the estimated 15 people...

Why did they have to 'estimate' 15 people, can't they count that high??

6 posted on 09/03/2006 7:03:34 AM PDT by Hazcat
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To: SwinneySwitch
"They dont want Mexicans. They are not going to stop and check whether we are here legally."

Tell it to Al Garza, National Director of the Minutemen civil defense corps.
7 posted on 09/03/2006 7:05:21 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Vicente Hernandez, another Mexican citizen with a legal work visa, quietly watched the rally from afar and said he had mixed feelings about Saturdays event.

"People who want us out make us feel like animals," he said. "We are not here to take anybodys job or to commit crimes. We are just here to make a living. This is our only escape from a country that is drug-ridden, lawless, poor and 100 percent corrupt."

Hernandez said that though he disapproves of strangers invading the area to kick Mexicans out, he nonetheless feels that something must be done to stop those people that come here illegally with bad intentions.


Vincente is one conflicted LEGAL immigrant.
8 posted on 09/03/2006 7:07:02 AM PDT by Captain Rhino ( Dollars spent in India help a friend; dollars spent in China arm an enemy.)
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To: SwinneySwitch
"We dont know if they have other intentions," Gonzalez said. "Who knows who infiltrates their unit."

What the heck is LULAC? What are their intentions? Who infiltrates their unit?

9 posted on 09/03/2006 7:11:56 AM PDT by DejaJude (Admiral Clark said, "Our mantra today is life, liberty and the pursuit of those who threaten it!")
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To: SwinneySwitch
Vigilantes?

How many have the hung, with or without a trial?

How many have they ridden down & shot it out with?

How many have they dragged out of jails, after tying up the sheriff or town marshal?

When did they construct Fort Gunny-bags?

Or is "vigilante" LULAC's new name for Neighborhood Watch?
10 posted on 09/03/2006 7:13:57 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

In default of government citizens will act! It should be the Army arriving down there. However, as the Good Book says our birthright is being sold for a mess of potage. Citizen intervention is now necessary.


11 posted on 09/03/2006 7:15:31 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: cripplecreek

"They are not going to stop and check whether we are here legally."

You're right, they call your friends the Border Patrol!


12 posted on 09/03/2006 7:16:28 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Terroristas-beyond your expectations!!)
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To: SwinneySwitch
"They are not going to stop and check whether we are here legally."

Just seeing where you cross the border is enough. They do not "stop and check" you. Just keep on lying about the MM to make it sound like what it is not.

13 posted on 09/03/2006 7:17:11 AM PDT by CPOSharky (MSM - Live hizbozo = freedom fighter. Dead hizbozo = innocent civilian.)
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To: Hazcat
Why did they have to 'estimate' 15 people, can't they count that high??

No al llevar zapatos. (Not while wearing shoes.)

14 posted on 09/03/2006 7:18:03 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: Hazcat

Too funny. Trying to make 15 sound like a lot.


15 posted on 09/03/2006 7:18:26 AM PDT by Jason_b
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To: Captain Rhino

I suspect that Mr. Hernandez is being deliberately targeted and confused by LULAC and a laundry list of open borders orginizations.


16 posted on 09/03/2006 7:18:46 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Good morning.
"Vigilantes means watchmen in Spanish"

And why is vigilance against danger supposed to be a bad thing anyway, eh?

Michael Frazier
17 posted on 09/03/2006 7:26:35 AM PDT by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: SwinneySwitch
."Protesters said they opposed the coming of the Minutemen"

And WE protest the coming of zillion ILLEGAL, Criminals! Hey lulac, TO BAD SO SAD!!

18 posted on 09/03/2006 7:31:40 AM PDT by stopem (God Bless the U.S.A the Troops who protect her, and their Commander In Chief !)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Gonzalez said he was suspicious of the outsiders because they are so determined to come despite the fact that they are not welcome here.

Says who?

And, by the way, Frankie, what makes you think you are welcome here?

19 posted on 09/03/2006 7:32:58 AM PDT by SMM48
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To: SwinneySwitch
"Cierre para arriba, y vaya a casa, donde usted pertenece"

("Shut up and go home, where you belong"!!!)

For all you Gringos (acually, I don't Habla Espanol, I just picked this up somewhere)

20 posted on 09/03/2006 8:11:08 AM PDT by seasoned traditionalist (ALL MUSLIMS ARE NOT TERRORISTS, BUT ALL TERRORISTS WHO WANT TO DESTROY OUR COUNTRY, ARE MUSLIMS)
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To: DejaJude

I didn't know either. From Wikipedia:

The League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC) is a political advocacy group for Latinos in the United States. Founded in 1929 in Corpus Christi, Texas, LULAC is the nation's oldest Hispanic organization. According to its website, LULAC has "approximately 115,000 members throughout the United States and Puerto Rico", which it claims also makes it the nation's largest Hispanic organization. The current president is Rosa Rosales. The immediate past president was Hector M. Flores.

According to the LULAC website,

"LULAC advances the economic condition, educational attainment, political influence, health and civil rights of Hispanic Americans through community-based programs operating at more than 700 LULAC councils nationwide. The organization involves and serves all Hispanic nationality groups."

LULAC was the lead plaintiff in the U.S. Supreme Court case Hernandez v. Texas. In its landmark decision, the Warren court decided that Mexican Americans were a distinct ethnic group and were thus guaranteed equal protection under the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution.

Criticism
In a criticism echoed on many anti-illegal immigration and conservative websites, Joseph Fallon, a writer for the Social Contract Press, accuses LULAC of being a Hispanic supremacist hate group. The accusation is based on LULAC's 1977 adoption of the stance that Latinos are a distinct ethnic group from Whites, the organization's support for bilingualism, and its demands that Hispanics be appointed to posts in the government.[1]


22 posted on 09/03/2006 9:15:16 AM PDT by BW2221
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To: SwinneySwitch
"We have adequate manpower with Border Patrol and the military as it is.

The 13+ million illegals here would agree.

23 posted on 09/03/2006 9:32:17 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: SwinneySwitch
the estimated 15 people who gathered at San Agustin Plaza

Must have run out of fingers to count.

24 posted on 09/03/2006 9:34:45 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: SwinneySwitch
"We think it is wrong to allow unqualified people to survey the border area," said Frank Gonzalez Jr., first vice president of LULAC Council No. 12. "

Hey, Frank, WE think it's wrong that 15 million illegal aliens are living in America, costing American taxpayers BILLIONS every year. We think YOU'RE 'unqualified", and you certainly don't speak for America.

25 posted on 09/03/2006 9:53:07 AM PDT by janetgreen (History names GWBush as first American President who allowed massive invasion from third world dump)
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To: BW2221

That's "League of United Latin American Communists"


26 posted on 09/03/2006 9:58:04 AM PDT by 5Madman2 (There is no such thing as an experienced suicide bomber)
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To: SwinneySwitch

That's ULULULULULULULULULULack


27 posted on 09/03/2006 10:41:00 AM PDT by axes_of_weezles
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To: SwinneySwitch
Gonzalez said he was suspicious of the outsiders because they are so determined to come despite the fact that they are not welcome here.

If we were welcome there we probably would not need to go there.

Just more whining from the hand in the cookie jar crowd.

Mr. Gonzalez it's time to wake up. El Vis has left the building!

28 posted on 09/03/2006 1:35:08 PM PDT by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, Minuteman Project AZ 2005, Texas Minutemen El Paso, Oct and April 2006)
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To: Hazcat
"The annual rate of legal immigration is low by historical measures," they said, also quoting the American Immigration Lawyers Association. "The number of immigrants living in the United States remains relatively small as a percentage of the total population."

That is a LIE. There were entire decades where we didn't allow as many people in to the USA legally as we do in a single year now.

29 posted on 09/03/2006 2:59:07 PM PDT by Jack Black
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