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Top 10 Reasons Islam Might Not Be a Religion of Peace
http://www.chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=23438&catcode=13 ^

Posted on 09/03/2006 9:20:08 AM PDT by kronos77

A passenger revolt occurred on a Malaga-Manchester flight. Vacationing Brits refused to fly with two Arabic-speaking men. This came in the wake of arrests of 21 British-born Muslims who were plotting to blow up as many as 11 trans-Atlantic flights.

A spokesman for Britain’s opposition Tory party said the passengers panicked into “behaving irrationally.” Fancy that, not wanting to fly with members of a faith whose adherents keep trying to blow things up. Oh, how irrational!

Within days of this incident, a Lebanese student was arrested for trying to plant bombs on German trains. In India, meanwhile, a group with alleged ties to al-Qaeda threatened to blow up the 17th century Taj Mahal.

If Muslims make travelers nervous, it’s not without cause.

Would you be more likely to have an anxiety attack at 20,000 feet if the passenger seated next to you was: A) An Irish nun saying the Rosary? B) A Mormon missionary in regulation white shirt and narrow, black tie? C) A Hari Krishna in a standard-issue saffron robe? or D) A bearded bloke of Middle Eastern complexion holding a well-thumbed Koran?

When you hear of a terrorist incident, is the first thought that pops into your head: Probably some crazy Muslim? Guess what? It probably was some crazy Muslim!

(Excerpt) Read more at chronwatch.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bosnia; checheniya; islam; itc; kashmir; kosovo; londonbombing; madridbombing; serbia; wot

1 posted on 09/03/2006 9:20:10 AM PDT by kronos77
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To: joan; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; ma bell; Banat; ...

ping


2 posted on 09/03/2006 9:20:41 AM PDT by kronos77 (www.savekosovo.org say NO to Al-Qaeda new sanctuary (Go IDF!))
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To: kronos77
It probably was some crazy Muslim!

He should have said simply "Muslim". By a Muslim's lights, the behavior we call crazy, they call Jihad. The Muslims who really do believe in peace must be apostates.

3 posted on 09/03/2006 9:32:31 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ("Thanks, Tom DeLay, for practically giving me your seat"-Nick Lampson)
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To: kronos77
Might not?

Reason #1 the Koran!
Reason #2 Mohammad
Reason #3 Oh I don't know....all the passages about killing Jews and Christians if they don't convert.

4 posted on 09/03/2006 9:34:52 AM PDT by Bommer
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To: kronos77
Behold the Peace of Islam: Picture of the Week



A Muslim on an airplane chanting "Allah Akbar"... what's there to worry about?  This very self-absorbed, 27-year-old Muslim man says he can't understand why fellow passengers found his audible prayers unnerving.  Islam is the Religion of Peace, after all.




It's about how they deal with things in general.

5 posted on 09/03/2006 9:45:45 AM PDT by Issaquahking (Trust can't be bought)
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To: kronos77

Title: MIGHT NOT??? Could there even be some question?


6 posted on 09/03/2006 9:47:37 AM PDT by Snoopers-868th
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To: kronos77

"A spokesman for Britain’s opposition Tory party said the passengers panicked into “behaving irrationally.”

The Tories are the British Conservative party. Looks like they pander and play the "PC" game much like many of our beloved Republicans.


7 posted on 09/03/2006 9:51:26 AM PDT by BW2221
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To: kronos77
If an Irishman is saying the rosary aboard a flight, it's because of fear of flying ... or maybe because he sees the Muslim reading the Koran.

For non-Catholics info, there are three series of "mysteries" that can be said with the Rosary - Joyous (leading up to Christ's birth), Sorrowful (relating to Christ's passion and death) and Glorious (relating to Christ's resurrection).

I imagine the Muslims have something similar for their prayer beads: the Jihad, the Infidel-killing and the Honor Killing.
8 posted on 09/03/2006 10:00:27 AM PDT by BW2221
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To: kronos77; 88keys; Akron Al; babyface00; Badray; Bikers4Bush; boxerblues; Captiva; Commiewatcher; ...
There is no doubt in my mind that jihad will come to our shores.

Look at some of the small "incidents" that have happened so far, (Seattle Jewish Community Center, Popal in Fremont and San Francisco), it is already here.

What about the massive disposable cell phone buys that were in the news a month ago? The police are not here to protect you, but rather to clean up after the fact, and fill out the nice reports, and talk to the reporters.

Do you know if Muslims live in your neighborhood? Is it wrong for us to take notice of potential problem areas living among us?

Some acquaintances call this concern paranoid, hysterical, over reacting, what do you think?

Are you going to be ready when jihad comes to the USA?

9 posted on 09/03/2006 10:21:31 AM PDT by North Coast Conservative (Are you prepared to protect your family and your country? Keep your weapons clean.)
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To: North Coast Conservative

It's sufficiently clear that we cannot allow I-slam in its present form in America forever. The three choices most countries are going to have with I-slam are 1 - submit to it, 2 - ban it, and there might possibly be a third choice of devising some safe version of it which to allow and ban the rest but, it seems to me that if you're going to go to that much trouble, you may as well simply face the music and ban it. I am in favor of banning the practice of I-slam in America at this point.


10 posted on 09/03/2006 10:30:51 AM PDT by tomzz
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To: kronos77

Actually, the ones I truly feel sorry for are the Christian Arabs, who escaped those Muslim crazies to come to the West. They came to the West to get away from those loonies -- some basically escaping only with the clothes on their back. Now they are given nasty looks by Americans, because we think that they are the very Muslim crazies that they escaped from. Essentially, they inadvertantly get victimized twice.

I am just as guilty of this -- when our Arab neighbor first moved in, my first thought was "sleeper cell". He's is mid-thirties with an American wife & two great kids. (He's been in the US since he was a baby.) When he said that he was "Christian", I thought "yeah, right". Then I met his father-in-law -- an ex FBI agent who worlked on the first WTC bombing, and I said "OK. He is fine, he is what he says what he is." Now, we just love the guy and his family and I feely crappy for ever having doubted him!


11 posted on 09/03/2006 10:47:00 AM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: North Coast Conservative

It's already been here, in force.


12 posted on 09/03/2006 11:09:38 AM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Bokababe

Caution is a virtue, these days, B. Drop the 'crappy' stuff. It doesn't *wear well* on anyone's sleeve.


13 posted on 09/03/2006 11:33:59 AM PDT by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage. Try it!)
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To: Emilia
The last Crusade was in 1249.

We have been having trouble with Muslims a little more recently than that.

And the supposedly "moderate" Muslims are either intimidated into failing to denounce and/or control their radical terrorist brethren, or they are complicit by silence.

Until CAIR and other Muslims denounce the terrorists in their own house -- instead of whining about persecution every time they open their mouths -- unfortunately most Muslims in the West will be viewed with suspicion.

15 posted on 09/03/2006 11:46:23 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Emilia

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you signed up just today thinking you would find some clever thing to say to expose how uninformed Freepers were, but you just couldn't hold your water.


16 posted on 09/03/2006 11:54:20 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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I saw this on another thread; seems appropriate here.

"Last chance America. Put this on now or we will put it on for you."

18 posted on 09/03/2006 12:07:07 PM PDT by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus.)
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To: Emilia
They could begin with outfits such as CAIR, and the unending public appearances and press conferences that such "spokesmen" give. They could continue with the religious leaders and imams of every mosque in America, and the "man in the street" (usual suspects) that are contacted every time another terrorist act is perpetrated or thwarted.

Those "spokesmen" and religious leaders certainly have whined about persecution at every conceivable opportunity, and that has been heard loud and clear on the TV and radio and published in the papers. In fact, every time a Muslim commits a terrorist act, CAIR and its ilk have been interviewed and . . . have whined about potential "backlash" rather than condemning the acts. The best I have ever heard some imam manage to say is, "we condemn these acts, BUT . . . " and then go on to trash the West and justify the terrorists' conduct.

If they had used those many, many opportunities to condemn Islam as a justification for terrorism, I would be a lot more sympathetic. They have utterly failed to do so, therefore I am left with the alternatives that (1) they have been intimidated into silence; or (2) they are complicit.

19 posted on 09/03/2006 12:10:11 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Darth Reagan

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20 posted on 09/03/2006 1:12:11 PM PDT by marblehead17 (I love it when a plan comes together.)
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To: Bokababe

Why feel crappy? It's normal, part of surviving to be leary of Arabs at this point in history.Anyone who isn't at least suspicious is a moron.There may and I use the word "may" come a day when having this attitude might not be fair,but we ain't there yet !!!


21 posted on 09/03/2006 1:27:50 PM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: Emilia; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; SandyInSeattle; Darksheare; OSHA; ...
Go out on a limb? I'll play! I think kronos77 is for real, and that your a troll for going after him as soon as you arrive. So much so that I'm notifying the proper authorities. I believe they kind of look like this...





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22 posted on 09/03/2006 2:08:50 PM PDT by Issaquahking (Trust can't be bought)
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To: Emilia

The Quran says to strike off the heads, strike off the hands of the 'infidel'.
Guess what, in their eyes YOU are an infidel.
Also, it is perfectly OK in the Quran for a 'mujahid' to take you as his slave and use you for sex, as long as he gives you three days to mourn for whatever husband you might have had.


23 posted on 09/03/2006 2:15:27 PM PDT by Darksheare (Fear my mighty throngs of killer bunnies...)
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To: Emilia; Issaquahking; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; SandyInSeattle; ...

Beware - Allah has not one attribute of love for Muslims:

Muslim's and any others considering Islam should take care to note that the Allah they are praying to, has not one attribute of love.  This should be a another sign to you that who you bow down to in Islam is really not whom the imams, mullahs and ayatollah's say he is.   Look through the Qur'an - there is no attribute of unconditional love accorded Allah to his Muslims--but once.  Ironically, in Sura 20:390 Allah does unconditionally say he loves one man - the Hebrew Moses. 

Another "red flag" is that there is not one place in either the Muslim Qur'an or even in the much later made up Hadith's that teaches Muslims to have a loving relationship with Allah.  This Allah is to only be feared by Muslims. 

Will all Muslims go to Hell? According to Sura 19:71 every Muslim will go to Hell (for at least some time), while another passage states that those who die in Jihad will go to Paradise immediately. 

 

 


24 posted on 09/03/2006 2:25:53 PM PDT by Lady Jag (People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid.)
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To: Issaquahking

I can't answer your ping, I would be banned.


25 posted on 09/03/2006 3:06:34 PM PDT by bitt ("And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm.")
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To: kronos77; potlatch; ntnychik; Smartass; Boazo; Alamo-Girl; PhilDragoo; The Spirit Of Allegiance; ...

read it ping.......


26 posted on 09/03/2006 3:08:50 PM PDT by bitt ("And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm.")
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To: Issaquahking; Emilia; Darksheare; Lady Jag; MurryMom
Oh! Looky Everybody!

We have a "new troll"......
or
Maybe it's just "MurryMom" using a different name.....



Issaquahking: Thanks for the Ping.

27 posted on 09/03/2006 3:08:56 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Emilia
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you have never traveled to the Muslim world, nor do you know any Muslims.

*sniff* What's that you're wearing? Eau de Ozone?

28 posted on 09/03/2006 3:24:31 PM PDT by Prime Choice (Kindness to the cruel is cruelty to the kind.)
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To: kronos77
Top 10 Reasons Islam Might Not Be Has Never Been a Religion of Peace

There. Fixed it.

Remember, everyone: "Islam" means submission, not "peace." And there ain't nothin' peaceful about being forced to submit to a false god.

29 posted on 09/03/2006 3:27:20 PM PDT by Prime Choice (Kindness to the cruel is cruelty to the kind.)
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To: Emilia
How do you suppose "they" ought to denounce them? Are the millions and millions of Muslims out there supposed to stand on street corners or email news outlets asking if they can come on TV to denounce terrorism? Most do not sit on boards of organizations, they are simply living their lives like everybody else.

Curiously, there was no great Muslim outcry when Paris was going up in flames or when the towers fell on 9/11...but I sure remember a large Muslim outcry when cartoons of their pedophile "prophet" (pigs be upon him) were published.

Funny how that works, eh wot?

30 posted on 09/03/2006 3:30:16 PM PDT by Prime Choice (Kindness to the cruel is cruelty to the kind.)
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To: Emilia
I am genuinely curious because I hear a lot of people say this. 99.9999% of the 1.3 billion Muslims in the world have absolutely nothing to do with terrorism, so what are they going to have to say about it and how?

And you know this because you've traveled in the Muslim world, and have spoken to all of them? Seriously, the question is not what Muslims have to do with terrorism, but what they have to do with Mohammed and jihad.

Go back and talk to the 1.3 billion again, and see if they denounce Mohammed's jihads.

31 posted on 09/03/2006 3:44:30 PM PDT by Invisible Gorilla
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To: kronos77

Multiple Choice Test

1. In 1968, Robert F. Kennedy was assassinated in Los Angeles by
(a) Superman,
(b) Jay Leno,
(c) Tiger Woods,
(d) a man from Palestine between 17 and 40 years old.

2. In 1972, 11 Israeli athletes were kidnapped and killed at the Munich Olympics by
(a) the kid who cuts your grass,
(b) Sitting Bull,
(c) Arnold Schwarzenegger,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.

3. In 1979, the US Embassy in Tehran was over-ran & 52 Americans were held for 444 days by
(a) Bruce Lee,
(b) Elvis Presley's deceased twin brother,
(c) a tour group of Minnesota grandmothers,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.

4. During the 1980s, several Americans were kidnapped in Beirut by
(a) O J Simpson,
(b) the king of Sweden,
(c) the pope and a gang of Cardinals,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.

5. In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Lebanon was blown up, killing 220 Marines, by
(a) a Domino's Pizza delivery man,
(b) the president of the Southern Baptist Convention,
(c) Catherine Zeta-Jones,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.

6. In 1985, the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70-year-old American passenger thrown overboard in his wheelchair by
(a) Sugar Ray Leonard,
(b) your next door neighbor,
(c) the Little Mermaid,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.

7. In 1985, TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens and a U.S. Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by
(a) Captain Kangaroo,
(b)Walt Disney,
(c) Mother Teresa,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.

8. In 1988, Pan American Flight 103 was destroyed by a bomb in midair by
(a) Butch Cassidy,
(b) the Sundance Kid,
(c) the Tooth Fairy,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.

9. The World Trade Center was bombed the first time in 1993 by
(a) Stonewall Jackson,
(b) Michael Jordan,
(c) Winston Churchill,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.

10. In 1998, U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by
(a) Santa Claus,
(b) your sister's cat's grandmother's first owner's son's basketball coach's ex-wife,
(c) the World Wrestling Federation,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.

11. On September 11, 2001, airliners were hijacked to crash into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon by
(a) Bugs Bunny,
(b) Bob the Tomato,
(c) Ricky Martin,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.

12. In 2002, Daniel Pearl of the Wall Street Journal was kidnapped and beheaded by
(a) Bonnie and Clyde,
(b) the Michelin man,
(c) Barney Fife,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.

13. In July of 2005, several targets were attacked in central London, killing 52 persons, by
(a) the Orkin Man,
(b) Margaret Thatcher,
(c) Mr. Goodwrench,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.


32 posted on 09/03/2006 4:32:14 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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33 posted on 09/03/2006 4:32:43 PM PDT by devolve (fx 9125_AMERICANS_KILLED_2003_BY_ILLEGALS MEX_ILLEGAL_GOT_911_TERRORISTS_ID NO_NUEVO_TEJAS)
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To: North Coast Conservative

You're overreacting you paranoid, hysterical fearmonger. No way can there be jihad without open borde. . .

Oh, never mind.


34 posted on 09/03/2006 7:44:49 PM PDT by Badray (While defending the land called America, we must also be sure to preserve the Idea called America.)
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To: Bokababe

You just described a sleeper cell. Sorry but ya never know, keep your ears and eyes open.


35 posted on 09/03/2006 7:57:46 PM PDT by VastRWCon
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To: bitt

Thanks for the ping!


36 posted on 09/04/2006 7:02:11 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Prime Choice; Smartass

Hey, PC! Hope all is well!


37 posted on 09/04/2006 7:08:33 AM PDT by bitt ("And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm.")
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To: bitt
Hey, PC! Hope all is well!

Very well, thanks. Dunno if you saw some of the more recent news...

38 posted on 09/04/2006 9:07:28 AM PDT by Prime Choice (Kindness to the cruel is cruelty to the kind.)
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To: butternut_squash_bisque; Obie Wan; VastRWCon

Maybe my compassion for my neighbor has to do with the fact that I am an American Serb. I recall when the Balkan wars were going on and I'd go to the doctor's office or somewhere where I got asked "what nationality" my last name was. When I said "Serbian", I recall the looks I got -- and the "Oh" that made me feel about an inch tall. And I had nothing to do with what happened over there. I was born here and my family came from over there nearly 100 years ago. Nor had Serbs ever done a damn thing against the US.

Being a conservative does not mean being a fascist or having an excuse for being an uncompassionate ass. There is a bit of difference when you talk about these situations "in theory" vs. a face-to-face interaction.

Yes, it is wise to be cautious, especially these days. And, no I don't berate myself for that caution, but I also think that the word "sleeper cell" was thrown out there without enough info to make intelligent assessments at a time when Americans were already scared after 9/11. Now every "Arab", including Christians and those who have been here for generations, get the same once-over -- and not even politely. Danny Thomas would be given a once over today if you didn't know who he was! Understandable -- yes. But I wouldn't want to be him.

I seriously doubt that my neighbor is "a sleeper". He's been in the US since he was three years-old. His whole family --including his parents -- are here in the US and have been here for over 30 years. His four brothers include two American corporation presidents, a doctors & a prominent attorney, all spread across the US and all married with their own families. My neighbor says that he is "the screw up" of the family and yet, at age 34, while working like a dog, managed to buy a $700K ranch for his wife and two kids.

From everything I have read, this jihad against the West actually began with the Iranian revolution in the late 1970's, where they decided that they would rather be "first at Islamic jihad" in the Moslem world, rather than be a "third-rate Western wanna-be". It spread from there to the Arab countries and really gained steam when we sponsored guys like bin Laden against the USSR and they learned our methods back in the 1980's.

My neihbor was a baby, already in the US, before the "jihad against the West" even reached the Arab countries. He is not "a candidate".



39 posted on 09/04/2006 11:07:55 AM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: devolve

Very impressive graphics and lots of them!


40 posted on 09/04/2006 8:10:05 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: kronos77

1.) Mohammed was a man of War.


41 posted on 09/04/2006 8:14:41 PM PDT by Mr. Buzzcut (metal god ... visit The Ponderosa .... www.vandelay.com ... DEATH BEFORE DHIMMITUDE)
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To: potlatch


42 posted on 09/04/2006 8:46:45 PM PDT by devolve (fx 9125_AMERICANS_KILLED_2003_BY_ILLEGALS MEX_ILLEGAL_GOT_911_TERRORISTS_ID NO_NUEVO_TEJAS)
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To: Prime Choice

I did, I approve, I congratulate, and I am glad to see you online without us all clutching and pulling at you for some of the 'good stuff'.........

we just like to see and hear from you. :)


43 posted on 09/04/2006 8:48:00 PM PDT by bitt ("And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm.")
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To: devolve

LOL - OK, third time is the charm, go ahead...


44 posted on 09/04/2006 8:48:46 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: potlatch


45 posted on 09/04/2006 8:59:50 PM PDT by devolve (fx 9125_AMERICANS_KILLED_2003_BY_ILLEGALS MEX_ILLEGAL_GOT_911_TERRORISTS_ID NO_NUEVO_TEJAS)
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To: kronos77

Tuesday morning bump.


46 posted on 09/05/2006 5:08:40 AM PDT by BufordP ("I am stuck on Al Franken 'cause Al Franken's stuck on me!" -- Stupid)
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To: kronos77

Might?


47 posted on 09/05/2006 5:22:14 AM PDT by Cymbaline (I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stres)
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